Grex Agora56 Conference

Item 81: the State of the Union

Entered by mcnally on Wed Feb 1 06:55:30 2006:

1 new of 107 responses total.


#42 of 107 by jep on Thu Feb 2 03:00:06 2006:

Even conservatives get blasted by klg.  Whew, I was thinking there was 
something wrong with me!

re resp:37: Some of your citations used selective statistics which 
convey inaccurate impressions.

Fastcheck.org:
He proudly spoke of "writing a new chapter in the story of self-
government" in Iraq and Afghanistan and said the number of democracies 
in the world is growing. He failed to mention that neither Iraq nor 
Afghanistan yet qualify as democracies according to the very group 
whose statistics he cited.

Answer: The president didn't say they were democracies.

Fastcheck.org:
He talked of cutting spending, but only "non-security discretionary 
spending." Actually, total federal spending has increased 42 percent 
since Bush took office.

Answer: How did "non-security discretionary spending" change?  Was 
there more of it, or less?  If you're going to dispute the president 
onfacts, do so by disputing the facts that he said.

FactCheck.org didn't really seem to dispute some of the things the 
president said, but rather stated it would have been nice if he'd said 
different things, and then called it "misstatements" that he didn't say 
what they wish he had said.  I agreed with some of the things they said 
but overall I don't regard these people as having any credibility.  
They don't seem real committed to any reasonable definition of the 
word, "fact".


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