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cross, I thought you were in your 20's The ACLU has said they belive the 2nd is a collective right, not an individual right. Ruby Ridge and Waco were both proof of a government out of control and we all know who was president then, don't we. How many officers died in the aborted raid on waco? How long did the standoff last? How many waco's would it take to paralyze the government? The people at the Branch Dividian Church were not out to overthrow the government. They were not out on the offensive. All they wanted was to be left alone. The sheriff should have thrown the feds out after the first week and taken over the problem.
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