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Item 8: Item ate

Entered by tpryan on Wed Sep 24 13:24:57 2003:

        What's been on your plate
        Was it great?
        Talk about it here in item ate
588 responses total.

#1 of 588 by tpryan on Wed Sep 24 13:38:59 2003:

        Kellogg's Frosted Mini-Wheats for breakfast with 2% Milk.


#2 of 588 by keesan on Wed Sep 24 16:38:07 2003:

Jim's special omelet-in-pieces.  For some reason he fries the peppers and then
sprinkles them on top of the cooked omelet (along with feta cheese).  I have
asked him to pour the raw egg onto the cooked peppers to make things easier
to eat with a shaky hand and a spoon.  Oatmeal with apricot preserves (from
Lebanon).  Milk.  I have been trying to eat lots of calories and am nearly
back to 100 pounds (up from 93 to 99).  This is my second time as a 99 pound
weakling, first time being when I lost the weight this summer.


#3 of 588 by krokus on Wed Sep 24 20:58:19 2003:

I had a grilled chicken sandwich from Wendy's for brunch.  That has
worn off by now, so I'll be foraging for a snack very shortly.


#4 of 588 by other on Wed Sep 24 21:04:12 2003:

So far today:  From the Big City Small World Bakery, 500 Miller St. 
(corner of Spring)
        A vegan date raisin Wonder Bar  
        A sour cream raspberry muffin
        A Nantucket cranberry juice.

I'm looking forward to dinner.


#5 of 588 by mynxcat on Wed Sep 24 21:07:16 2003:

Subway's Turkey Breast 6" on Wheat with lettuce, black olives and bell
peppers. And vinegar. And some tea.


#6 of 588 by dah on Wed Sep 24 21:23:29 2003:

A slice of bacon.


#7 of 588 by gelinas on Wed Sep 24 22:02:14 2003:

Toast and peach preserves, bread and butter, a roast beef and provolone
sandwich.


#8 of 588 by lynne on Wed Sep 24 23:15:45 2003:

Four Nantucket cookies, five doublestuf Oreos, and some milk.


#9 of 588 by dah on Wed Sep 24 23:35:02 2003:

I had a few slices of bacon.


#10 of 588 by jaklumen on Thu Sep 25 00:17:30 2003:

I'm glad this item is back--I can better monitor my eating habits =)

Eggs and Jimmy Dean sausage for breakfast with a tall glass of water...

A pretzel shaped doughnut for a mid-day snack,

and beef curry and veggies (zucchini?) for lunch-- no rice.


#11 of 588 by dah on Thu Sep 25 00:24:12 2003:

I'm currently eating a slice or two of bacon.


#12 of 588 by other on Thu Sep 25 02:17:04 2003:

Peanuts, Bourbon BBQ Chicken from Old Town, with Iced Tea
Pumpkin Cream Tart at Knight's, with Captain Morgan's and ginger ale.


#13 of 588 by keesan on Thu Sep 25 03:20:17 2003:

Lunch - organic finger potatoes from a friend's farm with fava beans and
tomato and feta cheese salad.  Snack - bread and cheese and prune plums.
Supper - cauliflower and red-pepper-juice and tofu stew with bread.
Snack - bread and cheese.  The pepper juice (mild) is an ajvar byproduct.
Dessert - Nystatin oral.


#14 of 588 by tod on Thu Sep 25 05:51:56 2003:

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#15 of 588 by mcnally on Thu Sep 25 07:45:48 2003:

  re #14:  Were you listening to the Upsetters? 


#16 of 588 by twenex on Thu Sep 25 11:07:10 2003:

I'm on a diet. I managed not to eat any fattening foods yesterday. hooray!


#17 of 588 by dah on Thu Sep 25 11:27:41 2003:

Yum; I had some bacon for breakfast.


#18 of 588 by scott on Thu Sep 25 12:27:40 2003:

Couple of eggs, scrambled.  Bowl of granola.  Tea, Earl Gray, hot.


#19 of 588 by mynxcat on Thu Sep 25 12:32:48 2003:

Last night was a heavy dinner of potato-spinach, green beans, with paratha,
and some rice and "dal" (Indian lentil soup).

This morning, it's a cup of tea


#20 of 588 by lynne on Thu Sep 25 14:38:08 2003:

Damn.  Now I want tea.  <wanders off in search of some>


#21 of 588 by mynxcat on Thu Sep 25 14:43:23 2003:

Another cup of tea, but this time brewed the "English" way. And no sugar.


#22 of 588 by dah on Thu Sep 25 15:54:47 2003:

I had some delicious bacon and as a treat I had for a drink some liquified
bacon juices.


#23 of 588 by mynxcat on Thu Sep 25 16:40:13 2003:

Subway turkey breast on wheat


#24 of 588 by gelinas on Thu Sep 25 16:57:13 2003:

(What is "brewed the'English' way"?)


#25 of 588 by mynxcat on Thu Sep 25 16:59:47 2003:

With the teabag in a cup of hot water, and the creamer added when it's all
dark. As opposed to the Indian way, wehere you put the tealeaves (or teabag,
more convenient) into the water, add teh milk and then boil the whole
concoction till desired strength. Add sugar when the milk and tealeaves are
added. (I think it tastes much better)


#26 of 588 by gelinas on Thu Sep 25 17:13:30 2003:

I'll have to try the Indian way.


#27 of 588 by mynxcat on Thu Sep 25 17:20:12 2003:

Most Indian restaurants will serve it. They add "chai masala" - ground spices
that go in the tea. (well the restaurants here will add it)  - It's called
masala chai.

A remedy for colds - before adding  anything, boil a piece of ginger in the
wter. Then add everything else. I love the flavor. Another variation is to
use cardomom seeds instead of ginger.


#28 of 588 by dah on Thu Sep 25 17:23:38 2003:

I made some bacon.


#29 of 588 by rcurl on Thu Sep 25 17:42:55 2003:

Milk? Creamer? Sugar? Bags? In tea? (Somebody else must brew it the
Mountaineer's way - tea (no bag) into boiled water.)


#30 of 588 by dah on Thu Sep 25 17:45:57 2003:

I ate some bacon.


#31 of 588 by goose on Thu Sep 25 17:55:30 2003:

In a few hours you'll probably poop some bacon.


#32 of 588 by mynxcat on Thu Sep 25 18:13:24 2003:

Re 29. The differnce lies more in the way it's brewed rather in the
ingredients. One way boils everything, the other uses boiled water. The
outcomes is very different.


#33 of 588 by gelinas on Thu Sep 25 18:41:29 2003:

Boil the ginger, let it cool, and then boil everything together?  Or use the
gingered water the 'English' way?


#34 of 588 by mynxcat on Thu Sep 25 18:51:17 2003:

Boil the ginger, and while the water is still boiling, add the tea and sugar.
When it gets to a dark brown color, add the milk and boil it some more. Boil
to the desired strenghth (this takes many many brewings unless you know
exactly what you want) Darker the resulting color, stronger the tea. My aunt
boils for exact times, but I'm not sure what they are.

sine I do everything based on estimates, my tea is usually hit or miss. The
fiance makes really good tea.


#35 of 588 by happyboy on Thu Sep 25 19:09:24 2003:

bowl of oatmeal with oliveoil instead of butter
coffee with lowfat milk
protein shake


#36 of 588 by slynne on Thu Sep 25 20:56:37 2003:

bowl of oatmean with one teaspoon of sugar and some milk
one apple
beef jerky 
chicken ramen noodles
2 homemade oatmeal cookies. 
about 4 cups of tea -

dinner will have to be something with veggies I guess since I havent 
had *any* yet today. Maybe a salad or something. 


#37 of 588 by mynxcat on Thu Sep 25 22:41:12 2003:

a bite of the coffee cake, and now a bowl of dal - "spinach-lentil" soup.


#38 of 588 by vipla on Thu Sep 25 23:19:58 2003:

How are changing web pages?


#39 of 588 by scott on Thu Sep 25 23:27:45 2003:

I do tea the "Eastern Accents" (a chinese bakery and tea shop in Ann Arbor)
way:  Loose tea in a coffee press.  


#40 of 588 by dah on Fri Sep 26 00:49:27 2003:

No, I don't poop.  All I eat is bacon and opium.


#41 of 588 by krj on Fri Sep 26 01:03:38 2003:

Green pepper beef, over at Peking Express in East Lansing.


#42 of 588 by jaklumen on Fri Sep 26 01:26:50 2003:

Breakfast-- eggs and breakfast sausage, Crystal Light
small handful of peanuts for a mid-day snack
Lunch-- hot 'n sour soup, BBQ pork with hot mustard (clears the 
sinuses), and sweet and sour chicken.  Dinner is yet to be determined.

Had a big glass of water early this evening.


#43 of 588 by mynxcat on Fri Sep 26 01:31:34 2003:

Ichiban Sapporo noodles with an egg in it


#44 of 588 by dah on Fri Sep 26 01:33:24 2003:

Yum.  I just ate some bacon.


#45 of 588 by keesan on Fri Sep 26 02:01:26 2003:

White hominy grits from the Dollar STore with a preserved apricot from
Jerusalem Market, and Jim's next attempt at an omelet that won't fall apart
but did anyway.  I think he should be using less chopped peppers than egg.
I am still chasing this around the plate with a spoon (shaky hand) but finally
dumped it on top of the cereal.  Whole milk.
Lunch - salt at the U of M hospital cafeteria, in the form of a vegetable
'chimichanga' which from top down consists of a thick layer of melted cheese,
a few fried vegetables, a white flour tortilla and a thin layer of
unbelievably salty beans.  Jim ate half of it for me after I tried to get it
down with two cups of milk and a pear.  I see why people are getting 32 oz
of soda with their meals.  This is in a hospital that leaves salt out of the
patient food and substitutes pepper.  Jim's pizza was also very salty.
No more Nystatin oral antifungal treatment for a while.


#46 of 588 by mynxcat on Fri Sep 26 02:05:17 2003:

Orange juice. My substitue for water


#47 of 588 by keesan on Fri Sep 26 02:21:02 2003:

If you dilute the juice with water it has less calories.


#48 of 588 by mynxcat on Fri Sep 26 02:46:33 2003:

But then I don't like the taste :( More orange juice. Or maybe I'll jsut have
ice water


#49 of 588 by gelinas on Fri Sep 26 04:36:11 2003:

A couple of fried-egg sandwiches, with cheddar cheese, mayo and mustard; one
on white, the other on whole wheat.


#50 of 588 by krj on Fri Sep 26 05:36:56 2003:

Roasted chicken and home-fried potatoes, and a chocolate chip cookie.


#51 of 588 by bhoward on Fri Sep 26 05:45:06 2003:

Friday plate lunch at Ogo's: Kalua pig, macaroni salad, two scoop rice.

mmm. ono.


#52 of 588 by dah on Fri Sep 26 12:15:03 2003:

Bacon for breakfast.


#53 of 588 by tpryan on Fri Sep 26 13:16:09 2003:

        Post Honey Bunches of Oats for breakfast.


#54 of 588 by keesan on Fri Sep 26 13:37:19 2003:

Canteloupe with a linen napkin, at the computer.  Linen wrinkles well.
Jim is off perfecting the medium-boiled egg.  With organic eggs they vary in
shape and the rounder ones take a bit longer.


#55 of 588 by anderyn on Fri Sep 26 14:00:55 2003:

How is a medium boiled egg? (I know soft-boiled and hard-boiled, but medium?)

yougurt for breakfast. hot tea. 

In regards to the boiled tea -- oh my. I use freshly boiled water and loose
tea, timed slightly less than recommended, because I don't like my tea at all
heavy or strong. (Of course, at work, when I'm rushed, I use the water from
the coffee machine and a tea bag, but even then, it's a quick one-minute or
so dip, no longer.)


#56 of 588 by scott on Fri Sep 26 14:28:20 2003:

Pancakes & coffee - need to get to the coop for more tea.


#57 of 588 by tod on Fri Sep 26 18:02:51 2003:

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#58 of 588 by keesan on Fri Sep 26 20:07:43 2003:

Soft-boiled egg has a soft white, medium boiled a cooked white but soft yolk.


#59 of 588 by tod on Fri Sep 26 20:45:45 2003:

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#60 of 588 by tpryan on Fri Sep 26 22:13:07 2003:

        Ham and cheese sandwich for dinner.  Little Debbie Oatmeal Cream snack
cake for dessert.


#61 of 588 by glenda on Fri Sep 26 23:04:20 2003:

Hot and Sour Soup (which was neither) and Sesame Chicken (marked as hot and
spicy on menu, was neither) from Lucky Kitchen on Clark across from EMU.  I
was very disappointed.  The Lucky Kitchen downtown, not far from our house
is rather good.  I had high hopes of something reasonable on the way between
EMU and WCC.  The only other thing available is Subway, I don't do Subway,
having been spoiled by good subs elsewhere.  I wish more Chinese restaurants
would drop the belief that Americans can't hand real Chinese food, and quit
Americanizing it.  I can handle hot, I can handle spicy, I can handle exotic,
I can handle meat as a flavoring agent rather than the star of the dish.  I
like different, I am tired of going to an ethnic restaurant and getting
Americanized versions.  I want it the way they would cook it at home, damn
it.


#62 of 588 by bru on Fri Sep 26 23:24:50 2003:

fresh salad with tomatoes and red and yellow peppers
spelt angelhair pasta with spaghetti sauce, no meat.


#63 of 588 by keesan on Sat Sep 27 00:18:46 2003:

Organic yellow potatoes and orange carrots, from our friend's farm. 
Stir-fried Chinese cabbage and red pepper from the market.  Milk.
Jim had ajvar on slightly moldy sprouted lentil bread.


#64 of 588 by jaklumen on Sat Sep 27 00:56:58 2003:

the usual breakfast I've been telling you about, Crystal Light.

Lunch was chicken strips and a Frosty at Wendy's-- a tad early because 
of a long interview session after work.

Dinner shall be porkchops and eggplant in a garlic butter sauce.


#65 of 588 by mynxcat on Sat Sep 27 01:22:02 2003:

Baked salmon steak and orange juice


#66 of 588 by gelinas on Sat Sep 27 05:04:41 2003:

Mancino's Barbecue Beef grinder and chicken noodle soup, because we didn't
want to wait an hour and a half at Zingerman's Roadhouse.


#67 of 588 by slynne on Sat Sep 27 12:19:35 2003:

Mmm. I went to Zingerman's roadhouse yesterday. I went for a late lunch 
at 3p. No wait! It was *really* expensive, but I wasnt paying ;). It 
was *really* good. 

I ate two large slices of whole wheat bread. A hamburger with goat 
cheese. It was so large I couldnt eat it the usual way so I took it off 
the bread and just ate the meat. It came with a huge number of fries 
that reminded me of the fries we used to get at the Cloverleaf way back 
when. They were good but I was too full to eat many of them. Aaron gave 
me a bite of his pork roast. OH MY GOD. *That* was good. We shared a 
piece of key lime pie which was heaven. I got a brownie "to go" to 
sneak into the movie. They charged me $6 for it. When we got to the 
theater, they were selling Zingerman's bakehouse brownies for $3.75. 
DOH!


#68 of 588 by remmers on Sat Sep 27 12:31:18 2003:

Had my typical breakfast this morning:  Steel cut oats with an added
tablespoon of flaxseed, topped with walnuts, slivered almonds, fresh
blueberries, banana, and soy milk.  Eggbeaters sauteed in olive oil.
Coffee.


#69 of 588 by scott on Sat Sep 27 13:07:54 2003:

Bread with peanut butter or salmon cream cheese.  Earl Grey tea.


#70 of 588 by keesan on Sat Sep 27 16:02:55 2003:

Are steel cut oats oatmeal?


#71 of 588 by gelinas on Sat Sep 27 16:21:03 2003:

Oatmeal is made from steel-cut oats, but oatmeal is also made from rolled
oats.


#72 of 588 by jep on Sat Sep 27 16:33:25 2003:

I've tried steel cut oats for making oatmeal.  They take a long time 
to cook, then taste exactly like any other oatmeal.  Why do you prefer 
them, John?


#73 of 588 by jaklumen on Sat Sep 27 23:02:28 2003:

last night was a cheat.. cottage cheese, garlic & jalapeno stuffed 
Silican olives

breakfast was poached eggs and bacon
lunch was cottage cheese again... hmmm


#74 of 588 by scott on Sun Sep 28 00:30:18 2003:

Dinner was a salad, bread & butter, and a chicken-lentil stew in the crock
pot.


#75 of 588 by remmers on Sun Sep 28 03:27:11 2003:

Re #72:  I find the taste and texture of oatmeal made from steel
cut oats to be preferable to that made from rolled oats.  It's
supposed to be healthier too.


#76 of 588 by mynxcat on Sun Sep 28 03:45:00 2003:

Hmmm, throughout the day, samosa, bites of potato chips, a slice of pizza,
tea, and now cabbage peas and a paratha.


#77 of 588 by gelinas on Sun Sep 28 03:45:29 2003:

Domino's pizza.


#78 of 588 by dah on Sun Sep 28 04:15:06 2003:

Wow.


#79 of 588 by other on Sun Sep 28 05:16:28 2003:

Mulligatawney (sp?) soup, Surprise Dosa, Mango Shake.

Vegetarian nachos, Bavarian Bliss.


#80 of 588 by scott on Sun Sep 28 05:27:59 2003:

Vegetarian nachos, with a nice pint of stout.


#81 of 588 by gelinas on Sun Sep 28 05:29:11 2003:

(Which stout, scott?)


#82 of 588 by jaklumen on Sun Sep 28 07:22:35 2003:

Dinner was a BLTA croissant, 2 canteloupe slices, steak fries, and 2 
Mt. Dews.


#83 of 588 by mynxcat on Sun Sep 28 07:35:55 2003:

3 White Russians
,


#84 of 588 by scott on Sun Sep 28 13:27:10 2003:

(Arbor Brewing - they were out of the German Alt, the bastahds)


#85 of 588 by tpryan on Sun Sep 28 13:38:40 2003:

        Kellog's Frosted Mini-Wheats for breakfast.  2% milk.
Apple juice and bananna earlier.


#86 of 588 by gelinas on Sun Sep 28 14:06:23 2003:

(Thanks. :)


#87 of 588 by glenda on Sun Sep 28 14:37:34 2003:

STeve has me chained to my desk to study (don't tell him I was here, please).
When he becomes fully conscious he is going to make me some scrambled eggs
with roasted ancho peppers and onions.  He is making chicken/cheese
enchillatas for dinner and salsa and chips for snacks.  I love it when he gets
into a cooking mood.


#88 of 588 by tod on Sun Sep 28 14:40:11 2003:

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#89 of 588 by asddsa on Sun Sep 28 16:33:27 2003:

How would you see the person ordering? Usually, in drive thrus, that's not
possible.


#90 of 588 by keesan on Sun Sep 28 17:11:55 2003:

Dollar Store (local) corn grits with whole milk and a microwaved apple picked
up from under a tree half a block from here, with cinnamon.  Jim says this
is not enough calories but I am up over 100 pounds now.  He bought me some
unsalted potato chips.  I suppose to gain weight faster I should be eating
the sort of diets listed above - steak, fries, pizza, Mt. Dew, samosas and
nachos.  My problem is I prefer fruit and vegetables.  Last night I agreed
to some whole wheat bread with cream cheese and apricot preserves but it was
too icky sweet and greasy so I put another piece of bread on top and had it
with unsweetened hawthorne tea to cut the sugar.  

I have gained nearly 10 pounds and for the past week have been able to sleep
2 hours at a time instead of 40 minutes (due to getting sore where my bones
hit the mattress).  Today I actually went back to sleep from 7:30 to 11:30.


#91 of 588 by happyboy on Sun Sep 28 17:24:45 2003:

have slynne come over an fix yew a special plate
of biscuits with sassidge GRAVY ala bignasty.


when i move back to michigan we'll drive you and jim
out to the baker rd. truckstop for a good feeding if yew want!


#92 of 588 by tod on Sun Sep 28 17:42:43 2003:

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#93 of 588 by slynne on Sun Sep 28 18:00:53 2003:

I know. Sindi and I should trade diets for a while. ;)


#94 of 588 by keesan on Sun Sep 28 19:19:02 2003:

Lots of people have offered me 20 pounds.  I should eat something for lunch.
I am getting tired of eating all the time.  Jim is also making me plan the
menu.  He eats popcorn (with nutritional yeast and lots of olive oil).  Lunch
will be something with potatoes and tomatoes - ideas anyone?


#95 of 588 by jaklumen on Sun Sep 28 19:31:30 2003:

Eggs and sausage with shredded pepper jack cheese, Crystal Light.


#96 of 588 by happyboy on Sun Sep 28 22:25:16 2003:

/hits the deck as cy & tod run for mnut


#97 of 588 by jaklumen on Mon Sep 29 04:02:26 2003:

Decadence and badness: Taco Hell-- steak stuffed burrito, mexi-
nuggets, nachos and cheese, Code Red.


#98 of 588 by tod on Mon Sep 29 05:27:21 2003:

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#99 of 588 by lynne on Mon Sep 29 14:48:30 2003:

Hmmm.  All I ate yesterday was most of a box of Cherry Crunch cereal (granola,
cornflakes, and dried cherries) with milk and a plain veggie burger on a bun.
Just didn't feel like eating anything else.  When I got on my scale it said
I'd lost about 15-20 pounds in the past week.  I'm pretty sure it needs to be
recalibrated, but it made me stop and realize how much my eating habits have
changed since stopping antidepressants.  Hopefully they'll even out here 
sometime soon.


#100 of 588 by mynxcat on Mon Sep 29 15:25:28 2003:

You lost 15 pls in a week??!!.


#101 of 588 by remmers on Mon Sep 29 15:42:48 2003:

You didn't by chance have an amputation, did you?


#102 of 588 by tod on Mon Sep 29 15:44:02 2003:

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#103 of 588 by remmers on Mon Sep 29 15:46:04 2003:

Just finished lunch:  Tuna sandwich on high-fiber whole-grain bread
(no balloon bread for me) with some mayonaisse, assorted raw veggies
(carrots, green & yellow sweet peppers, cucumber, tomato).  Will top
it off with a small apple.


#104 of 588 by mynxcat on Mon Sep 29 15:47:07 2003:

English muffin with turkey and a little "can't Believer it's not butter"


#105 of 588 by tod on Mon Sep 29 15:56:16 2003:

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#106 of 588 by jep on Mon Sep 29 15:58:12 2003:

re resp:99: Since lack of interest in eating, and sudden weight loss, 
are major warning signs for depression, I wonder if you should consider 
resuming the antidepressants?  When I was eating like you are now, it 
was definitely because I was depressed.


#107 of 588 by lynne on Mon Sep 29 16:25:38 2003:

re 100, 101:  I think maybe my scale had some kind of major trauma.  Maybe
*it* needs to go on antidepressants.  :)  Anyway, my clothes are slightly
looser, but not 15-20 pounds' worth.  I might believe 5.  I've been eating
lightly largely because I was physically ill and mentally stressed last week.
I was depressed a year and a half ago; I'm not now and haven't been for 
some time.  But thank you for the concern.


#108 of 588 by keesan on Mon Sep 29 17:22:55 2003:

15-20 pounds of 'sudden weight' loss sounds like some of Jim's rescued digital
scales.  He has not found a good treatment method other than new battery and
sometimes that does not work either.

What is a crystal light?


#109 of 588 by tpryan on Mon Sep 29 18:50:19 2003:

        A yeros at Kerros (gift certificate) for lunch.


#110 of 588 by slynne on Mon Sep 29 19:50:14 2003:

breakfast was 3 apple pancakes - no butter or syrup but made with white 
flour. I also had 8oz carton of milk. 

Lunch was lowfat turkey lunch meat and cheddar cheese on whole wheat. 
No condiments or anything on the sandwich. I also had an apple.

Once again...I am short on the veggies. I need to get back in the habit 
of stopping at the grocery store on my way to work. I used to buy 
veggie trays with the veggies already cut up...usually brocooli, 
cauliflower, celery and carrots. I think each tray had about 4-5 
servings of veggies. I would eat them all day instead of other snacks. 



#111 of 588 by mynxcat on Mon Sep 29 19:55:38 2003:

My fovrite is carrots. I cld eat those all day. Though I read somewhere about
this woman who had the all carrot diet and her skin took on this orange tint.
I'm not sure I'm ready for that.


#112 of 588 by krj on Mon Sep 29 20:57:05 2003:

A rosemary & olive oil bagel from Bruegger's.  These are fast becoming my 
favorite, displacing the traditional poppy seed, especially for 
sandwiches.


#113 of 588 by jiffer on Mon Sep 29 22:32:52 2003:

breakfast - a banana
lunch - 4 small fresh mozz balls (about the size of a jumbo marble), a
peicpiece of toast, and some pastrami


#114 of 588 by jaklumen on Tue Sep 30 00:33:10 2003:

resp:108 No-sugar Kool-Aid for grown-ups, basically.

the usual deal for breakfast; General Tso's Chicken and hot n sour 
soup for lunch.


#115 of 588 by keesan on Tue Sep 30 03:06:39 2003:

Coop organic peanut butter (crunchy) on Dimpflmeier whole-grain bread with
a locally windfallen red apple.


#116 of 588 by jaklumen on Tue Sep 30 04:32:31 2003:

Dinner: pork riblets, brownies.


#117 of 588 by tod on Tue Sep 30 13:11:34 2003:

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#118 of 588 by slynne on Tue Sep 30 13:39:41 2003:

Last night for dinner I went to subway and got a foot long veggie 
delite on wheat. I wonder how much whole wheat flour they put on 
their "wheat" bread. I figure that since they dont call it whole wheat, 
it is probably made mostly with white flour. But I love those 
sandwiches. It would have been a healthy day for me too if I didnt have 
a donut for dessert. :)

Today for breakfast, I had another donut for breakfast. mmmm. Then, I 
had a fruit salad that was very very yummy. I dont know why I often 
stop eating fruits and veggies this time of year. I mean, in the summer 
time I always eat a lot of them because I crave them. In the fall and 
winter, unless I make an effort, I would pretty much stop eating them 
altogether. Isnt that weird? 



#119 of 588 by other on Tue Sep 30 13:40:15 2003:

mussels, malbec, and dark chocolates from schakolad for dessert


#120 of 588 by keesan on Tue Sep 30 14:28:27 2003:

Maybe the hot weather makes you crave fruits and vegetables?


#121 of 588 by lynne on Tue Sep 30 14:45:28 2003:

Yesterday:  cheese sandwich and fountain Coke for lunch; two big slices of
pizza and a Pepsi for dinner.  And my scale's yoyo-ed back to former 
behavior plus some.  Yesterday it thought I was 138; this morning it told
me 165.  I'm amused. 


#122 of 588 by tod on Tue Sep 30 15:27:38 2003:

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#123 of 588 by gelinas on Tue Sep 30 18:12:19 2003:

New Orleans gumbo and North Carolina-style barbecued pulled pork sandwich,
with fries, at Zingerman's Roadhouse.  Yum. :)


#124 of 588 by keesan on Tue Sep 30 19:16:26 2003:

Homemade ajvar (baked and peeled red pepper, onion, garlic, eggplant) on
bread machine bread, with olive oil.
Not quite like the commercial variety - no salt, sugar, or vinegar added.
But they left out the (expensive) olive oil.


#125 of 588 by jaklumen on Tue Sep 30 22:52:32 2003:

usual breakfast, Chinese buffet for lunch


#126 of 588 by jep on Wed Oct 1 01:53:23 2003:

re carrots: When we were on vacation, my son and I ate carrots for 
snacks in the car.  We ate 5 pounds of carrots in 3 days, and had 
contests about carving grooves in them by turning them against our 
teeth as well as sculpting them by biting on them.


#127 of 588 by other on Wed Oct 1 01:56:07 2003:

I'm eating carrots right now.  dipped in spinach hommus.


#128 of 588 by tod on Wed Oct 1 02:04:34 2003:

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#129 of 588 by jaklumen on Wed Oct 1 05:10:56 2003:

Yep.  Which is why they are eschewed in low-carb diets.


#130 of 588 by jep on Wed Oct 1 16:17:51 2003:

I just figured carrots were better than candy bars and chips and the 
like.  I didn't realize they're high in sugar.


#131 of 588 by dah on Wed Oct 1 16:30:30 2003:

Just eat the carrots, jor.


#132 of 588 by goose on Wed Oct 1 17:18:10 2003:

Sugar or not, I'll bet carrots are better for you than chips or cookies.


#133 of 588 by tod on Wed Oct 1 17:32:07 2003:

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#134 of 588 by edina on Wed Oct 1 18:10:43 2003:

I lost 21 lbs in a week - granted I had to have major surgery to do it.

Lunch was about 1/6 of a chicken and black bean quesadilla.  I'm trying to
eat half of it by the end of the day.  


#135 of 588 by remmers on Wed Oct 1 22:41:16 2003:

Carrots contain sugar, but I wouldn't call them "high" in sugar.
Plus, they've got vitamins and fibre.  Definitely better than cookies.


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#137 of 588 by keesan on Wed Oct 1 23:32:51 2003:

Onions also have sugar (you can caramelize them).  Sweet potatoes have a LOT
of sugar.  Tomatoes have sugar.  


#138 of 588 by katie on Thu Oct 2 00:47:39 2003:

I always eschew my carrots before I eswallow them.


#139 of 588 by jiffer on Thu Oct 2 02:45:59 2003:

They are all still better than processed food. blech.  Pass me that hamburger.


#140 of 588 by jaklumen on Thu Oct 2 05:54:45 2003:

Lunch was Chinese buffet again (bad I know) dinner was a chicken 
caesar salad and a caramel apple Blizzard DQ treat.


#141 of 588 by tsty on Thu Oct 2 08:32:21 2003:

had some more    glorp  the recipe is on line around here somewhere.
  
but i found out that it tastes better when served with/on mashed
potatoes, not too many, but some.
  
also, made this batch with (i'm sorry to say) veal & ground sirloin.
the veal was in the freezer (mom's) from a while ago. 
  
i eschew veal in all forms - but - this was already purchased. /sigh
  
total meal, totally filling and nutritious.


#142 of 588 by tod on Thu Oct 2 15:09:06 2003:

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#143 of 588 by happyboy on Thu Oct 2 17:32:29 2003:

where you get the pinkie at?


#144 of 588 by tod on Thu Oct 2 18:21:49 2003:

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#145 of 588 by happyboy on Thu Oct 2 21:06:13 2003:

bone mush!


#146 of 588 by jaklumen on Thu Oct 2 22:45:53 2003:

breakfast: fried egg, bacon.

lunch: salad with cherry tomatoes, boiled egg, bacon.


#147 of 588 by tod on Thu Oct 2 23:56:59 2003:

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#148 of 588 by keesan on Fri Oct 3 01:22:15 2003:

Stir-fried onion, pepper, eggplant, tomato and cauliflower on leftover brown
rice with some high-calorie cheddar cheese grated on top.  Two small bowls.
Two cups of milk for extra calories.  A pear.


#149 of 588 by scott on Fri Oct 3 03:54:42 2003:

Breakfast:  Tea, a couple of pancakes, and a banana.
Lunch:  A burrito, some chocolate.
Dinner:  A turkey rollup from Our Town Deli.


#150 of 588 by tsty on Fri Oct 3 05:28:20 2003:

can of sardines - mustard sauce.


#151 of 588 by other on Fri Oct 3 05:52:24 2003:

carrots, gherkins, rice milk


#152 of 588 by tod on Fri Oct 3 15:38:31 2003:

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#153 of 588 by remmers on Fri Oct 3 16:01:16 2003:

Breakfast out at Cafe' Marie this morning:  Two eggs over easy with
bacon, whole wheat flapjacks, coffee.


#154 of 588 by keesan on Fri Oct 3 16:47:13 2003:

Is sarmale stuffed cabbage in Romanian?


#155 of 588 by tod on Fri Oct 3 17:01:02 2003:

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#156 of 588 by tpryan on Fri Oct 3 18:34:46 2003:

        A Banquet feast of turkey, gravy dressing, peas and mashed
potatos. 


#157 of 588 by dah on Fri Oct 3 20:24:43 2003:

Bacon.


#158 of 588 by gelinas on Fri Oct 3 20:57:24 2003:

A pepperoni and olive (green and black) pizza with coffee, at the marina after
we got the boat back and tied up.


#159 of 588 by edina on Fri Oct 3 21:03:43 2003:

Peach lowfat yogurt.


#160 of 588 by tod on Fri Oct 3 21:28:33 2003:

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#161 of 588 by happyboy on Fri Oct 3 23:56:12 2003:

oatmeal, buncha coffee, some pasta with turkeystore italian
sassidge...

tonite: PIZZA.  PIZZA AND BEERS.


#162 of 588 by jaklumen on Sat Oct 4 00:15:58 2003:

breakfast: bacon, hard boiled egg.

Lunch was a battle of willpower-- began as a bacon, tomato, hard 
boiled egg salad, and finished off in Chinese buffet again.  I think I 
was feeding stress again.

I think dinner will be albacore tuna stirfry... not sure.


#163 of 588 by asddsa on Sat Oct 4 16:01:10 2003:

You should make yourself a ham and cum sandwich.


#164 of 588 by scott on Sat Oct 4 20:44:11 2003:

A bit of swiss cheese, a few crackers, and a glass of wine.  And a small
amount of bread dipped in olive oil...yum!  Need to do that more often.


#165 of 588 by asddsa on Sun Oct 5 01:33:04 2003:

That's old school


#166 of 588 by gelinas on Sun Oct 5 01:46:04 2003:

Split-pea soup (Campbell's) and a chicken-salsa sandwich


#167 of 588 by keesan on Sun Oct 5 03:03:28 2003:

Avocado mashed on Zingerman's rye bread.  Avocado is high calorie but low in
saturated fat.


#168 of 588 by jaklumen on Sun Oct 5 06:25:37 2003:

resp:164 only when yours is roadkill on asswipe bread.


#169 of 588 by slynne on Sun Oct 5 14:36:29 2003:

resp:168 - That doesnt make any sense.


#170 of 588 by remmers on Sun Oct 5 14:49:46 2003:

Breakfast at the Flim Flam this morning - oatmeal with low fat milk,
"eggslim" (3 egg whites, 1 egg yolk, scrambled), OJ, coffee.


#171 of 588 by gelinas on Sun Oct 5 15:19:57 2003:

(#168 is probably a reply to #163, not #164.)


#172 of 588 by slynne on Sun Oct 5 16:14:17 2003:

Oh thanks gelinas. I was very confused about that. 

Ok, this morning for breakfast I had a leftover grilled chicken breast 
on whole wheat bread wtih some mozzarella cheese. and an apple. 

I have a veggie tray for lunch and some chicken soup because I have a 
cold. I guess the cold has cut my appetite though because I am not 
hungry yet and I ate breakfast hours ago. I am not too worried about it 
though. In fact, I kind of wish this loss of appetite were permanent. 



#173 of 588 by jaklumen on Mon Oct 6 07:18:57 2003:

resp:171 hmmm, lessee if the bug-a-boo notices.  Probably.  *BOOT*

breakfast: hard boiled egg
lunch: garden salad, blueberry yogurt
dinner: turkey roast (kind of like a loaf thing?), mashed potatoes, 
salad, cranberries, fruit salad


#174 of 588 by slynne on Mon Oct 6 13:56:29 2003:

I had 3 chocolate chip cookies for breakfast this morning. 


#175 of 588 by edina on Mon Oct 6 14:54:20 2003:

Almost all of a piece of toast.


#176 of 588 by remmers on Mon Oct 6 16:44:12 2003:

Currently eating lunch:  Threw together a salad featuring turkey
meat, green yellow & red peppers, cucumber, carrots, tomato, olive
oil & wine vinegar.  Mmmm good.  Cup of lentil soup on the side.


#177 of 588 by gelinas on Mon Oct 6 18:29:46 2003:

So far today: two slices of Honey Whole Wheat bread and Barry's Bagel with
cream cheese.


#178 of 588 by edina on Mon Oct 6 20:04:03 2003:

BerryBash Stonyfield Farms Fat Free yogurt


#179 of 588 by krj on Mon Oct 6 20:53:19 2003:

A very old and tired Asiago Parmesan bagel, somewhat perked up with a 
wet paper towel in the microwave.


#180 of 588 by slynne on Mon Oct 6 21:35:32 2003:

I ate a hamburger today which was a dumb choice because I couldnt taste 
it. I mean, if a cold causes you to lose your taste, there is no point 
in eating bad for you foods. I was really sad when a co-worker brought 
in a homemade chocolate cheesecake. I knew I wouldnt be able to taste 
it so I didnt even try. 

right now, I am craving pizza but I know that I wont be able to taste 
it so I guess I'll just have a salad for dinner. 


#181 of 588 by jaklumen on Tue Oct 7 03:03:39 2003:

breakfast: scrambled eggs and bacon
lunch: Chinese buffet (guess I need to re-strategize lunch, hehe)
dinner (so far): egg plant


#182 of 588 by gelinas on Tue Oct 7 03:18:48 2003:

Crab cakes and lobster roll at Zingerman's Roadhouse.  Son-chan had BBQ Beef
Brisket with mashed potatoes and greens.  (He'd decided on the lobster but
changed his mind when it turned out not to be what he expected.  He thought
it would be something hot, but it's cold lobster salad in the center of a 
large slice of bread.  So we switched.)  Most of the beef, etc, came home. 
Good Stuff.  

Son-chan saw the grills and asked whether they were charcoal or gas-fired.
He was impressed when I answered, "Wood."


#183 of 588 by tsty on Tue Oct 7 08:00:09 2003:

mac-n-cheeze with raw tomato pieces, brocolli, small piece of ribeye, milk.


#184 of 588 by lynne on Tue Oct 7 14:05:41 2003:

yesterday:  corn muffin, large Coke, Chinese takeout, Powerade, and a small
bag of white cheddar popcorn.


#185 of 588 by tod on Tue Oct 7 15:23:31 2003:

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#186 of 588 by happyboy on Tue Oct 7 18:40:17 2003:

oat bran cereal, skim milk
coffee, noodles with tofu & cabbbage,
turkey reubens (2), bowl of lofat popcorn.


the reubens did me in.


#187 of 588 by edina on Tue Oct 7 19:56:03 2003:

Barbecued "chicken" patty from gardenburger.  Pretty yummy.  Like I'd never
know it wasn't chicken.


#188 of 588 by scott on Wed Oct 8 00:37:46 2003:

My usual sickness cure:  Hot & spicy & garlicy noodle soup, from Kai Garden.
A glass of Bell's Two Hearted IPA, for the massive dose of hops.


#189 of 588 by jaklumen on Wed Oct 8 01:10:18 2003:

breakfast and lunch are more or less the usual deal.


#190 of 588 by gelinas on Wed Oct 8 01:28:07 2003:

B.D.'s Mongolian Barbecue:  Sante Fe Tomato Soup (nicely spicy), lamb, snow
pea pods, water chestnuts, bean sprouts, baby corn, edema (sp?) peas,
black bean sauce, garlic, cayenne pepper, and somthing else, maybe ginger.
They have changed the setup: no oils, a separate cup for sauces.  The grillers
spray the grill down with an oil before starting to cook.  They also use a
shaker, but I didn't find out what the powder in it was.  Bell's Best Brown
to dirnk.  Dessert was apple pie with vanilla ice cream with caramel sauce
and a cup of coffee.


#191 of 588 by slynne on Wed Oct 8 12:55:20 2003:

I had a lot of chicken broth and chicken soup yesterday. Also some 
crackers and popsicles (but the kind made with fruit juice). 

I havent had anything to eat yet today. 


#192 of 588 by gelinas on Wed Oct 8 13:10:17 2003:

A slice of Sedona Nut bread, and now a savory cheddar cheese scone from Great
Harvest.


#193 of 588 by lynne on Wed Oct 8 14:13:23 2003:

Yesterday:  a power bar, large Coke, and 10" pizza (lunch and dinner).


#194 of 588 by keesan on Wed Oct 8 19:41:34 2003:

Leftover lentil soup for lunch with hawthorne tea, hot milk (i choke on
cold liquids), and bread and brie (for extra calories).  Half a very small
yellow watermelon for extra fluid and potassium.  For some reason I don't seem
to be getting the constipation predicted from chemotherapy drugs.  Breakfast
was the usual 2 cups or so of oatmeal with apples and black walnuts from our
tree (for extra calories).  Avoiding salt this week so little cheese.


#195 of 588 by mynxcat on Wed Oct 8 20:20:55 2003:

I've always wondered - what's "brie"?


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#197 of 588 by edina on Wed Oct 8 20:56:13 2003:

Brie is a soft, french cheese.  It can be somewhat strong in flavor.  


#198 of 588 by gelinas on Wed Oct 8 21:25:37 2003:

Is camembert a kind of brie, or are they different but similar cheeses?


#199 of 588 by mynxcat on Wed Oct 8 21:36:20 2003:

Yum, cheese!

Thanks Brooke


#200 of 588 by lynne on Wed Oct 8 23:10:34 2003:

I think they're different but similar.  They're also extremely high in fat,
as I recall.


#201 of 588 by jaklumen on Thu Oct 9 00:33:56 2003:

breakfast: omelette with tomato and feta cheese
lunch- german sausage on a stick, Diet Dew


#202 of 588 by bru on Thu Oct 9 01:39:58 2003:

tossed salad
palm sized piece of steak
1/2 cup of peaches


#203 of 588 by jaklumen on Thu Oct 9 07:36:35 2003:

dinner: 5 alarm burger, fries, and Dew at the Red Robin with my 
girls :)


#204 of 588 by tsty on Thu Oct 9 08:38:20 2003:

slumgullion soup .. raves from family yet again.


#205 of 588 by keesan on Thu Oct 9 12:19:23 2003:

How old is the younger girl now?
Brie is definitely high in fat.  This week I am trying to eat cream cheese
instead as the latter has less salt.  The brie is softened by the white
coating of mold that grows on the outer skin if you leave it in a warm place
so the mold will be happy, but we are not bothering to wait.

Breakfast so far - one prilosec capsule opened up and the time-release
contents mixed with applesauce made from Rane's last year's windfalls,
followed by lukewarm hawthorne tea, and in one hour oatmeal and then a nasty
tasting prednisone (two mashed pills).


#206 of 588 by tod on Thu Oct 9 16:10:51 2003:

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#207 of 588 by happyboy on Thu Oct 9 16:44:05 2003:

oatmeal & fat free milk in my coffee.


#208 of 588 by tpryan on Thu Oct 9 17:10:13 2003:

        The second half of the Banquet noodles, gravy and beef for 
lunch.


#209 of 588 by keesan on Thu Oct 9 19:23:31 2003:

Oatmeal (not in coffee) with apples we found in Vet's Park.  Cauliflower soup
with bread and cheese.  Lentil soup with bread and cheese.  Watermelon.


#210 of 588 by remmers on Thu Oct 9 23:05:46 2003:

Had dinner at the Golden Wall Chinese/Vietnamese restaurant on
Cross Street in Ypsilanti.  It carries the concept of "family
restaurant" to a new level.  (Details on request.)  What I ate
was a nice curry vegetable & tofu stir-fry.


#211 of 588 by jaklumen on Fri Oct 10 00:05:28 2003:

breakfast: fried eggs, bacon
lunch: chicken strips, Frosty


#212 of 588 by remmers on Fri Oct 10 02:24:35 2003:

(insufficient fiber)


#213 of 588 by keesan on Fri Oct 10 03:26:06 2003:

Jim made jor and me supper while he ate leftovers.  Organic purple potatoes
and (orange) carrots.  Organic eggs and green pepper omelet.  Organic
breadmaker bread.  Last meal before surgery - you need to have an empty
stomach for the anesthetic (which is probably not organic).  The leftovers
were also organic (squash and collard greens).


#214 of 588 by jaklumen on Fri Oct 10 03:58:30 2003:

steak with sauted onions and mushrooms with horseradish... salad with 
olives and feta cheese, chocolate Hostess pie, jelly doughnut, 
chocolate milk.


#215 of 588 by mynxcat on Fri Oct 10 04:37:25 2003:

(I don't mean to be rude jaklumen, but I did understand from other posts that
you were trying to lose weight. Somehow, the diet doesn't show the commitment.
I was just wondering if I was mistaken)


#216 of 588 by happyboy on Fri Oct 10 05:05:51 2003:

It's the Ralph Cramden Diet (tm).


#217 of 588 by gelinas on Fri Oct 10 05:21:38 2003:

London broil, rare, with a (reheated) baked potato.


#218 of 588 by keesan on Fri Oct 10 10:49:02 2003:

No, the jelly donut diet.  Jaklumen, is this diet actually helping you to lose
weight?  Maybe you are eating smaller portions than you used to, but I agree
with mynxcat that the types of foods you have been posting are not the sort
I would expect of a weight loss diet.  (But then again, I would not expect
to lose weight on what mynxcat is eating either, which seems rather short on
fiber and low-calorie fillers.)

I will have a Prilosec for breakfast in apple sauce in an hour and I guess
just be hungry for two hours after that.  Prednisone makes me hungry.  Last
one for a while luckily.  Maybe I will cheat and eat something first but the
Prilosec I think gets absorbed faster on an empty stomach.  Mine feels empty.
I can wait 1/2 hour to wake Jim to mash my pills for me.  


#219 of 588 by jiffer on Fri Oct 10 11:10:58 2003:

In defense of Jaklumen's diet, the first part of recognizing what to eat  to
lose weight it so look at what you are currently eating and when.  If he is
a big time snacker, which I am, and cuts back on that, it may help a lot. 


#220 of 588 by tsty on Fri Oct 10 14:42:51 2003:

mom wanted to try ohmaha steaks' offerings .. tehy have arrived.
at least she gets a neat, *thick* cooler out fo teh deal.
  
anyone have taste experience with omaha steaks foods?


#221 of 588 by ea on Fri Oct 10 16:34:07 2003:

re #220 - I've heard that the quality is decent, but not great, and if 
you want good meat, you're probably better off going to your local 
butcher.


#222 of 588 by mynxcat on Fri Oct 10 18:04:04 2003:

Re 218 - Though I do agree that my diet is low-cal and may be low on 
fiber, apart from posting a couple of times here (I think Subway 
sandwiches both times), and maybe about some substitutes I've made 
that I posted in item 20, I've not really discussed what I've been 
eating. So I'm not sure from where you made that inference


#223 of 588 by keesan on Fri Oct 10 21:42:25 2003:

What you (mynxcat) have posted eating seems rather high on calorie-dense
things (meat including fish and fowl) and low on bulk, at least compared to
how we eat, as listed mostly in item 20.  The bulk (fiber) fills you up and
keeps you from eating at much.

Today I ate a whole bunch of high-fiber and liquid and low-salt stuff that
Jim keeps cooking for me, most recently microwaved bitter apples from Vet's
Park.  Last day of this sort of diet.


#224 of 588 by jaklumen on Fri Oct 10 22:12:50 2003:

Well, I *seem* to be doing alright, from today's weigh-in.  I think 
lunch is probably my problem area, especially when I'm on the run.

I hope you're looking at lunch and dinner... breakfast *is* low-carb.  
Dinner is, too, I just am maybe indulgent with dessert.  Last night 
was an especially bad example.

BUT

I don't think anyone was reading the other item Sapna started.  I have 
to limit dinner to an hour, period.  I have a balanced low-carb dinner 
that allows some dessert, but I cannot eat more than an hour.  The 
Carbohydrate Addict's Diet is *not* Atkins, and I have to keep 
reminding people of that.  I had bad cravings at dinner when I tried 
to do Atkins, so I don't skip a dessert.

resp:219 I don't snack.. not out of habit.

As far as lunch, yes, I know I cheat terribly.  What's hard sometimes, 
too, is I sometimes get a mid-morning hunger.  What's even worse is 
low-carb isn't terribly portable, so if I have to go run somewhere 
after work, sometimes it's easier to go somewhere to eat... and most 
places just don't do low-carb well.  I've done salads and such for a 
long, long time.

I'm hoping to increase exercise, actually.  Hopefully *that* will be 
easier after next week's sleep study and getting the C-PAP machine.


#225 of 588 by tsty on Sat Oct 11 03:12:54 2003:

re #221 - ea - thaankxx - that's about what i would expect even if
i expect mroe.
  
so far (hmmmm, maybe a refrendum on omaha happens herein) i can 
attest to the quality of the hot dogs - far above average and much better
than expected.
  
more later.


#226 of 588 by happyboy on Sat Oct 11 08:34:21 2003:

saying you got a good hotdog is like sayign you ate a
*superior* 1/4 lb of dogturd.


#227 of 588 by slynne on Sat Oct 11 13:05:46 2003:

That is NOT true, happyboy. The last time I checked, they still dont 
make Kowalski natural casing dogturds!


#228 of 588 by janc on Sat Oct 11 13:21:07 2003:

For dinner I cooked up some Dixie Burgers - a patty made of grated sweet
potato, minced collard greens, pureed black-eyed pea, with red bell
pepper, onion, garlic and celery, served with cheese on a whole wheat
bun. Pretty colors and pretty tasty, but I don't think they eat this in
Dixie.


#229 of 588 by dah on Sat Oct 11 16:41:01 2003:

Actually, you know, they make natural casings from intestines.  Sounds like
shit, you know?


#230 of 588 by other on Sat Oct 11 17:29:38 2003:

#229: <chuckle>


#231 of 588 by asddsa on Sat Oct 11 17:49:10 2003:

It's nutty!


#232 of 588 by tod on Sat Oct 11 19:15:47 2003:

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#233 of 588 by dah on Sat Oct 11 19:49:00 2003:

What did I have?  Oh, yeah, bacon and tea steeped with baconic remnants fatty
gristles etcs.


#234 of 588 by goose on Sat Oct 11 21:54:01 2003:

"baconic" may be the funniest thing uttered by dah ever....


#235 of 588 by gelinas on Sat Oct 11 23:22:50 2003:

Mancino's pizza.


#236 of 588 by jaklumen on Sun Oct 12 01:24:57 2003:

bacon.

last night dinner was a Sourdough chicken club, small caramel shake, a 
little soda, and some fries.


#237 of 588 by keesan on Sun Oct 12 03:30:20 2003:

Jim reinvented macaroni and cheese, with whole wheat noodles and whole wheat
white sauce.  The frying pan was a mess.  First he tried just stirring in
cheese and it stuck to the spoon.  Swiss chard (varicolored).  Jim does not
eat cheese.  He also does not eat white flour or sugar but had a Kellogg Eye
Center muffin anyway.


#238 of 588 by jaklumen on Sun Oct 12 05:29:59 2003:

Skipper's platter, some soda.  Someone had a birthday with our gaming 
group, so there was some cake.


#239 of 588 by tsty on Sun Oct 12 08:26:50 2003:

re 225/6/7 ... ammendment .. for NOT being kosher hot dogs they were
beter than expectd. no hotdog is better than a kosher hotdog, ever.


#240 of 588 by tsty on Sun Oct 12 08:29:12 2003:

the above doesn';t parse well enough ... kosher htodogs are beter than
al other hotdogs - there isn't a hotdog better than kosher.


#241 of 588 by happyboy on Sun Oct 12 08:37:52 2003:

kosher dogturds.


#242 of 588 by remmers on Sun Oct 12 14:42:52 2003:

Breakfast was oatmeal, oj, and an order of eggslims at our friendly
neighborhood Flim Flam.


#243 of 588 by tod on Sun Oct 12 16:22:46 2003:

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#244 of 588 by happyboy on Sun Oct 12 19:14:24 2003:

turkey sassidge and some frenchtoast with my wife's
AMAZING COFFEE.


#245 of 588 by slynne on Sun Oct 12 20:53:58 2003:

It sure is a good thing that I cant read happyboy's responses anymore 
or else I might be jealous of his breakfast. Whew. 


#246 of 588 by keesan on Sun Oct 12 21:27:31 2003:

Ripe canteloupe.  It hurts to chew anything harder than this.  Bean stew.


#247 of 588 by scott on Sun Oct 12 22:00:24 2003:

Some red wine and smoked mozarella [sp?] cheese.


#248 of 588 by other on Sun Oct 12 22:01:44 2003:

carrots and jalapeno hommus.


#249 of 588 by lynne on Sun Oct 12 22:42:03 2003:

onion bagel with cream cheese and tomato, peach drinkable yogurt thingy
then BK veggie (no mayo) and a side salad for dinner.  


#250 of 588 by dah on Mon Oct 13 01:13:32 2003:

248: hommo.


#251 of 588 by other on Mon Oct 13 01:45:22 2003:

250:  If it matters to you that much, you must want to put your carrot up 
my hommass...


#252 of 588 by keesan on Mon Oct 13 04:24:25 2003:

Corn meal mush with milk added - my jaws hurt if I chew. A pear.


#253 of 588 by dah on Mon Oct 13 05:24:08 2003:

Alcohol.


#254 of 588 by jaklumen on Mon Oct 13 06:55:48 2003:

Bacon for a late breakfast, grilled steak stuffed burrito, nachos, 
Code Red for dinner.


#255 of 588 by edina on Mon Oct 13 14:00:43 2003:

Piece of toast.  I've also discovered the joys of healthy choice sugar free
chocoalate chip mint ice cream.  It's nice when I'm craving something sweet.


#256 of 588 by keesan on Mon Oct 13 15:22:56 2003:

What is Code Red?
Nothing for breakfast.  Jim did laundry instead.  Oatmeal soon with tropical
fruit (bananas from the neighbor).


#257 of 588 by edina on Mon Oct 13 16:07:35 2003:

Code Red is a form of Mountain Dw (soda) - it's like regular Mountain Dew with
grenadine added.  It's incredibly sweet and horrid.


#258 of 588 by dah on Mon Oct 13 16:11:16 2003:

Bacon.


#259 of 588 by remmers on Mon Oct 13 16:16:06 2003:

Lunch was turkey meat on colon-blow bread with some fresh raw veggies
and lentil soup.


#260 of 588 by mynxcat on Mon Oct 13 16:35:28 2003:

Had late breakfast of egg-beaters, toast with margarine and glass of orange
juice


#261 of 588 by glenda on Mon Oct 13 16:54:12 2003:

Strawberry yogurt, hard roll, a pear, and water.


#262 of 588 by dah on Mon Oct 13 17:11:12 2003:

Bacon.


#263 of 588 by edina on Mon Oct 13 17:17:57 2003:

Half of a piece of BBQ chicken pizza - that for somre reason, came back up.


#264 of 588 by tod on Mon Oct 13 20:06:53 2003:

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#265 of 588 by bru on Tue Oct 14 00:20:41 2003:

salad and steak


#266 of 588 by jaklumen on Tue Oct 14 00:59:17 2003:

Breakfast: Bacon and poached eggs, water.

Mid-meal: diet 7up, pistachios.

Lunch: hot 'n sour soup, LOTS of water, BBQ pork with hot mustard, 
sweet 'n sour chicken.


#267 of 588 by mynxcat on Tue Oct 14 16:32:44 2003:

Subway sandwich on it's way, for lunch


#268 of 588 by tod on Tue Oct 14 17:18:17 2003:

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#269 of 588 by mynxcat on Tue Oct 14 18:31:11 2003:

What's Happy Bombay?


#270 of 588 by keesan on Tue Oct 14 18:35:27 2003:

Tod, do you work in a restaurant?


#271 of 588 by tod on Tue Oct 14 20:07:26 2003:

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#272 of 588 by keesan on Tue Oct 14 23:47:08 2003:

Chickpea flour pancakes with salad from the neighbor.  Mix chickpea flour from
the Indian food store with water, mash out the lumps, get a consistency that
is like pancake batter and can barely be poured, cook briefly on each side.
Sort of dry - what might we be supposed to eat them with?


#273 of 588 by goose on Wed Oct 15 00:14:03 2003:

Bombay Sapphire is my favorite gin.


#274 of 588 by mynxcat on Wed Oct 15 03:09:02 2003:

Lean Cuisine lasagna, honey cake and orange juice


#275 of 588 by jaklumen on Wed Oct 15 03:34:47 2003:

lunch: salad with tuna, marizani olives, sunflower seeds.
dinner: Mongolian grill... meat and veggies... can't remember it all.


#276 of 588 by slynne on Wed Oct 15 13:14:24 2003:

I have been having oatmeal for breakfast here at work all week. Their 
oatmeal tastes much better than the instant oatmeal I had been eating. 
This morning though, they were also serving french toast. I didnt get 
the french toast but I thought it might be nice to put some syrup into 
my oatmeal. Bad idea. I forgot that just because I have real maple 
syrup at home, here at the work cafeteria, they use that fake maple 
syrup which I suspect is corn syrup with artificial maple flavoring. It 
wasnt too good. 


#277 of 588 by edina on Wed Oct 15 14:35:38 2003:

Toast.  And I'm realizing that meat is bothering me.  It just seems to kinda
"stick".


#278 of 588 by tod on Wed Oct 15 16:21:18 2003:

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#279 of 588 by mynxcat on Wed Oct 15 16:54:04 2003:

subway sanswich


#280 of 588 by edina on Wed Oct 15 17:14:52 2003:

A bit of 3 onion soup and a bit of salad.


#281 of 588 by slynne on Wed Oct 15 18:31:18 2003:

I had a couple of slices of pizza plus an apple for lunch. 


#282 of 588 by goose on Wed Oct 15 18:32:33 2003:

for breakfast: mellon, pineapple, strawberries, a blueberry muffin, and a Coca
Cola

for lunch: A couple kinds of pastas, chicken primavera, caesars salad, a
cannoli and a Dr. Pepper.


#283 of 588 by keesan on Wed Oct 15 18:44:50 2003:

Jim is making eggplant and tofu on rice.


#284 of 588 by tod on Wed Oct 15 23:19:41 2003:

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#285 of 588 by jaklumen on Thu Oct 16 06:40:51 2003:

lunch: salad with tuna, olives, cheese, sunflower seeds
dinner: Bacon Cheddar Big 'N Tasty, fries, arctic orange milkshake.


#286 of 588 by edina on Thu Oct 16 14:06:56 2003:

Half of a piece of toast, half of a boiled egg.


#287 of 588 by slynne on Thu Oct 16 14:52:33 2003:

dinner last night: Weight Watchers roasted garlic chicken pocket. 
snack last night: milk chocolate candy bar and two apples then about 8 
or 9 dried apricots. My "snack" had about twice as many calories as my 
dinner. Ooops. :)
breakfast this morning: oatmeal, 2 sausage patties and an apple. 


#288 of 588 by edina on Thu Oct 16 16:33:51 2003:

Small salad with hard boiled egg and some chicken chili that will be consumed
later.


#289 of 588 by scott on Thu Oct 16 16:37:40 2003:

Some reheated pizza from yesterday, carrots, green tea.


#290 of 588 by tod on Thu Oct 16 16:41:13 2003:

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#291 of 588 by keesan on Thu Oct 16 21:28:03 2003:

Fresh figs from Jerusalem Market.  Pawpaw.


#292 of 588 by jaklumen on Fri Oct 17 00:31:38 2003:

breakfast: eggs and sausage, Crystal Light
lunch: Chinese buffet (splurge day and crunch time)
dinner probably will be eggplant, steak with sauteed onions, 
mushrooms, hot horseradish


#293 of 588 by keesan on Fri Oct 17 00:38:45 2003:

Do you get your vitamins from pills?  I don't see any green vegetables listed
in 292, or fruits.  Onions have a small amount of vitamin C.


#294 of 588 by arabella on Fri Oct 17 00:48:35 2003:

I wouldn't be surprised if he ate some veggies at the Chinese
buffet.



#295 of 588 by tsty on Fri Oct 17 07:13:58 2003:

porterhouse and scolloped potatoes w/ string beans.
  
lunch (befoer that) was my famous chicken stew/soup.


#296 of 588 by keesan on Fri Oct 17 14:48:11 2003:

I notice a lot of people at Chinese buffets with nothing but meat on their
plates.


#297 of 588 by mooncat on Fri Oct 17 16:44:42 2003:

On my lunch break at work- and for lunch had left-over chili that the 
roomie made, mmmm good stuff. :)


#298 of 588 by tod on Fri Oct 17 16:50:39 2003:

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#299 of 588 by anderyn on Fri Oct 17 16:51:53 2003:

lunch -- two large mushrooms with cheese (goat/sheep's milk) and several
shrimp. 


#300 of 588 by jaklumen on Fri Oct 17 21:22:26 2003:

resp: 293 Yes.  Multivitamin was ordered by the doctor regardless.  
Zinc and something else.  I don't do many fruits because of the low-
carb diet.  When I lose enough, they may be folded in again.

resp: 294 Of course.  Always kim chi, usually some cole slaw if it is 
there, fried pineapple.  This week was different-- I'm doing salads 
for lunch, see...

breakfast: omelette with tomatoes, sausage, and cheese
lunch: salad with olives, tuna 

resp: 296 that may be true, but that does not mean I eat *no* 
veggies.  Again, it's salads this week.  Money is tight for a little 
while, too, so it's just as well.


#301 of 588 by gelinas on Sat Oct 18 06:13:33 2003:

Tamales (one of each kind) and chili rellenos, at La Fiesta Mexicana.  Dessert
was a couple of sweet tamales stuffed with pineapple.


#302 of 588 by tod on Sat Oct 18 14:13:06 2003:

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#303 of 588 by happyboy on Sat Oct 18 19:49:52 2003:

re301: how are michelle and guierrmo these days?  they ever get
a
likker liscence?


#304 of 588 by jaklumen on Sat Oct 18 21:35:35 2003:

lessee... yesterday...

lunch I think was still a salad...
dinner... fried chicken, crab salad, potato wedges

nothing yet today


#305 of 588 by gelinas on Sat Oct 18 22:42:42 2003:

I didn't see beer on the menu, so I guess not.  They seem to be doing well.


#306 of 588 by bru on Sat Oct 18 23:04:15 2003:

dinner, home mde chili


#307 of 588 by jaklumen on Sun Oct 19 07:16:52 2003:

chicken fried steak, buttermilk biscuits-- all in country gravy-- 
poached eggs, lots of water.


#308 of 588 by edina on Tue Oct 21 15:40:26 2003:

<insert eye roll here>

Piece of toast, water.  Going for a salad in a few minutes.


#309 of 588 by happyboy on Tue Oct 21 17:22:31 2003:

why are you rolling your eyes?


#310 of 588 by tod on Tue Oct 21 17:35:14 2003:

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#311 of 588 by slynne on Tue Oct 21 18:07:21 2003:

I had oatmeal, 3 link sausages, an apple and a bowl of oatmeal for 
breakfast. I had a muffin for a midmorning snack. I had a BumbleBee 
brand chicken and BBQ sauce thing that comes in a can with some 
crackers. It has 110 calories but I think that is because of small 
portion size rather than being good or healthy. I brought it for my 
lunch which was a mistake because I am still hungry. Luckily I have 
some tomato soup in my desk which I can microwave. I will probably end 
up getting some candy from the vending machine but I am going to eat an 
apple first and hope I forget that I want candy ;)


#312 of 588 by slynne on Tue Oct 21 18:08:20 2003:

Haha. the oatmeal was so good I listed it twice. /doh


#313 of 588 by tpryan on Tue Oct 21 18:27:16 2003:

        Banquet Chicken and Dumplings.  Vegatable pill.


#314 of 588 by edina on Tue Oct 21 18:50:57 2003:

Item 309  You have to ask?


#315 of 588 by keesan on Tue Oct 21 20:03:53 2003:

Yesterday's lunch - 24+ oz barium sulfate drink, fruit flavored.


#316 of 588 by bhelliom on Tue Oct 21 20:23:10 2003:

Spaghetti with grilled hot italian sausage in the sauce for lunch today.
 It was leftover from last night's dinner.


#317 of 588 by edina on Tue Oct 21 20:34:09 2003:

Mushroom/soy burger (no bun), sauteed mushrooms and some roasted potatoes.


#318 of 588 by tod on Tue Oct 21 20:37:10 2003:

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#319 of 588 by other on Tue Oct 21 21:02:34 2003:

Vegan date-raisin wonder bar, lemonade

shrimp "sushi" and yummy sheep/cow/goat milk cheese


#320 of 588 by glenda on Tue Oct 21 23:42:48 2003:

Breakfast:  coffee, maple & brown sugar mini-wheats, banana
Lunch: boysinberry yogurt, 2 small french hard rolls, apple (golden ginger)
Dinner: Delamix tosquitos, southwestern chicken
water throughout the day and another coffee during my Calc II class at 5:30,
have to stay awake somehow.


#321 of 588 by gelinas on Tue Oct 21 23:59:09 2003:

Sharon's Ham I Am at Zingerman's.  (Arkansas peppered bacon, muenster cheese,
chilis and dried tomatos.)


#322 of 588 by jaklumen on Wed Oct 22 01:02:46 2003:

breakfast: omelette with cheese, tomatoes, onions?
lunch: salad with olives, cheese, bacon, hard boiled egg, sunflower 
seeds
dinner is bacon, pancakes, eggs I think... sugar-free syrup too 
(Atkins)


#323 of 588 by bru on Wed Oct 22 01:06:26 2003:

Beef stew with carrots, onions and potatoes


#324 of 588 by md on Wed Oct 22 12:44:00 2003:

Tess: 
Breakfast, Science Diet, water
Lunch, Science Diet, water
Dinner, Science Diet, water

Bagheera:
Breakfast, water
Lunch, large chipmunk, water
Dinner, small chipmunk, Science Diet, water


#325 of 588 by edina on Wed Oct 22 14:18:29 2003:

That's pretty funny.

Dinner last night was Peking Tofu, that promptly decided to not stay down.
Too much, too fast.


#326 of 588 by remmers on Wed Oct 22 14:46:02 2003:

The Science Diet plus water is what Sidney and Molly get too.
Except that they don't have scheduled meals.


#327 of 588 by happyboy on Wed Oct 22 15:12:17 2003:

re314:  yeah, i do.


#328 of 588 by md on Wed Oct 22 15:13:35 2003:

Bagheera is the new boy.  Same as Tess 14 years ago just came to back 
door and refused to go away.  Looks like namesake, has doglike 
affection for humans, insatiable appetite for chipmunk meat.  He and 
Tess loathe and despise each other.


#329 of 588 by tod on Wed Oct 22 15:36:56 2003:

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#330 of 588 by glenda on Wed Oct 22 16:50:55 2003:

At our house the furry people get Iams plus water.  About once a week we give
them all a treat of canned food.  We have two that split a can every night
(one has trouble gaining weight, the other has deformed teeth and has problems
eating enough dry food to get the nuitrition she needs)


#331 of 588 by mynxcat on Wed Oct 22 18:15:30 2003:

MynxieCat gets half a can of wet food every morning and a quarter to 
half cup of dry food every day. She's not big on those cat treats, 
which I find weird. She does love those Butterball honey-roasted 
turkey breats slices though


#332 of 588 by edina on Wed Oct 22 18:58:51 2003:

re 327  yeah, I know you don't have to ask.  ;-)


#333 of 588 by remmers on Wed Oct 22 22:15:56 2003:

Whenever I open a can of tuna for myself, the cats demand (and get)
a share.


#334 of 588 by jiffer on Wed Oct 22 22:36:09 2003:

Scott M. Evil gets to enjoy Iams Cat food, Whiska's Crab Treats (a huge fav
for him), he will attempt to take over your yoghurt (to the point that he is
on your lap, and attempting to get his nose near that container), and due to
my father treating him like a dog, he loves steak, turkey, chicken, salmon,
and any meat in general except for bacon, and sausages.


#335 of 588 by bhoward on Wed Oct 22 23:51:04 2003:

Could sure do with a falafel from JG right about now.


#336 of 588 by mynxcat on Thu Oct 23 04:15:51 2003:

Mynxie also loves to share my salmon. She seems to love sour cream and 
chicken also. I try to limit her eating people food, but who can 
resist the puppy-dog eyes she makes.

It's gotten to a point that if she sees me eating something, she will 
sit and stare, till I give her a bit to sniff at. If she's not 
interested she'll walk away. No matter what the food is, she has to 
sniff it to see if she wants it


#337 of 588 by jaklumen on Thu Oct 23 04:28:05 2003:

breakfast: eggs and sausage, Crystal Light
lunch: salad with sunflower seeds, albacore tuna, cheese, olives


#338 of 588 by charcat on Thu Oct 23 06:55:01 2003:

charcat is enjoying some fresh late fall catnip  >^*.*^=  


#339 of 588 by keesan on Thu Oct 23 13:51:12 2003:

Late night snack - microwaved Gerald Ford Library apples with tahini and
mulberry jam to cut the tartness.  These are enormous apples from a tree on
north campus, all with rotten cores (they were windfalls).


#340 of 588 by remmers on Thu Oct 23 13:52:49 2003:

Sort of a metaphor for the Republican Party, eh?  :)


#341 of 588 by bhelliom on Thu Oct 23 15:46:51 2003:

Currently eating one of my recipes of homemade chili for lunch.  Yum!


#342 of 588 by jaklumen on Fri Oct 24 02:00:04 2003:

breakfast: bacon, fried eggs, Crystal Light
dinner: chicken, Stove Top stuffing, coleslaw with sunflower seeds


#343 of 588 by tod on Fri Oct 24 16:39:37 2003:

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#344 of 588 by keesan on Fri Oct 24 17:22:26 2003:

Tired of oatmeal so Jim made barley flour pancakes (he has a flour grinder
for exercise) with mulberry jam (bought, Turkish).


#345 of 588 by mynxcat on Fri Oct 24 19:12:28 2003:

Lots of Indian sweets in honor of the Hindu festival Diwali


#346 of 588 by jep on Fri Oct 24 19:57:08 2003:

My son and I bought some goat milk out of curiosity.  It was "ultra 
pasteurized", but non-homogenized.  We have decided it tastes pretty 
much like milk.  I don't think I'll be buying much more at $3.89 per 
quart.


#347 of 588 by other on Fri Oct 24 20:00:11 2003:

Non-homogenized just means you should shake it up a bit before pouring.


#348 of 588 by tod on Fri Oct 24 20:07:59 2003:

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#349 of 588 by keesan on Fri Oct 24 21:48:46 2003:

It was barley flour with some milk and eggs mixed in, I think.  Same recipe
as for crepes made with wheat flour, no leavening.  You could also just use
flour and water.


#350 of 588 by scott on Fri Oct 24 21:53:31 2003:

A burrito with some "bruised garlic chili" sauce from the Japanese grocery.
Kinda salty, though.


#351 of 588 by edina on Fri Oct 24 22:24:59 2003:

A tiny bit of pot roast, some veggies and a skosh of mashed potatoes.


#352 of 588 by tod on Fri Oct 24 22:28:49 2003:

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#353 of 588 by jaklumen on Sat Oct 25 00:05:03 2003:

breakfast: bacon, poached eggs, Crystal Light
mid-day: doughnuts
lunch: coleslaw with sunflower seeds, Chinese buffet (Friday treat)


#354 of 588 by bhoward on Sat Oct 25 03:36:44 2003:

went shopping last night for some pork and gindara then took a
detour on the way back through a nearby farmers field.  fall
harvest is nearly over now but lots of fields still have kalo
(called sato-imo here) growing.  availed myself of few leaves,
headed home and made some homestyle laulau.

very easy to make...dice the fish, pork, mix into a bowl with
shoyu, spice to taste and throw in some sea salt.  wrap in a
kalo leaf, wrap again with ki (ti) leaf if you have one and 
tie it up with string or you can also use a stick or bamboo
spear to keep the wrapping closed.

steam for two, three hours then eat.

mmmm...


#355 of 588 by dah on Sat Oct 25 17:16:55 2003:

Hey, jaklumen, did you know they're making fun of your diet on M-Net?


#356 of 588 by jaklumen on Sun Oct 26 01:30:52 2003:

I couldn't give a flying fuck.


#357 of 588 by jaklumen on Sun Oct 26 01:31:54 2003:

breakfast: bacon, hard boiled egg.
dinner: salad, albacore tuna, olives


#358 of 588 by tod on Sun Oct 26 12:28:06 2003:

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#359 of 588 by md on Sun Oct 26 14:46:01 2003:

We rustled up three Rachael Ray "30-minute Meal" items for company last 
night.  Rachael's recipes are always popular.

http://tinyurl.com/seq7

http://tinyurl.com/seqi

We put this out for starters:
http://tinyurl.com/seqb

There was some chardonnay left over after the green risotto but I 
didn't like it so I had some Cynar & soda.


#360 of 588 by happyboy on Sun Oct 26 18:19:01 2003:

rachel ray reminds my wife and i of slynne


#361 of 588 by slynne on Sun Oct 26 19:00:31 2003:

She's a bad cook too? ;)


#362 of 588 by happyboy on Sun Oct 26 19:13:42 2003:

nope!  she just sort of reminds us of you, it's hard to say why.

anyway when we really are sad that you're not visiting us
the 5 of us all watch rachel ray.  some of her recipies look
fine
as well.


#363 of 588 by jaklumen on Sun Oct 26 20:53:52 2003:

breakfast was... biscuits.  No breakfast meat in the house.  There was 
no eggs made today-- I must be out of it.  Maybe I should have had a 
salad :P


#364 of 588 by remmers on Sun Oct 26 22:27:14 2003:

Breakfast at the Flim Flam, our friendly neighborhood fambly restaurant.
I had eggs, oatmeal, OJ, and coffee.


#365 of 588 by anderyn on Mon Oct 27 00:16:30 2003:

Today we had some Scottish meat pies (round pastry shells with minced beef
inside, possibly mixed with oatmeal) and I had a butter tart. Yes, we were
in Canada for the weekend. :-) We stopped at "Uncle Jimmy's Scottish Bakery".


#366 of 588 by keesan on Mon Oct 27 01:06:25 2003:

Jim stir-fried what was in the refrigerator, which today was red cabbage,
onions, daikon, and frozen peppers.  On rice, with tofu.


#367 of 588 by jmsaul on Mon Oct 27 01:40:23 2003:

You guys brought meat pies with beef in them back from Canada?


#368 of 588 by bhoward on Mon Oct 27 01:55:22 2003:

Unless their bodies process food extraordinarily quickly, the
answer is almost certainly yes :-)


#369 of 588 by jmsaul on Mon Oct 27 02:03:38 2003:

Doh.  I guess that's probably how they did it.


#370 of 588 by dah on Mon Oct 27 02:17:30 2003:

bash-2.05a$ last jaklumen
jaklumen         ttyp7                     Sun Oct 26 01:41 - 02:50  
(01:08)

wtmp begins Wed Oct  1 09:00:42 GMT 2003


#371 of 588 by dah on Mon Oct 27 02:21:12 2003:

See?  On M-NEt!  He signed up just to see M-Netters making fun of 
him!  But apparently he didn't find the item, agora 5.


#372 of 588 by other on Mon Oct 27 03:41:20 2003:

I had a butter tart today too, and I didn't have to leave Ann Arbor to 
get it.  (Big City bakery has really wicked good ones.)


#373 of 588 by jaklumen on Mon Oct 27 06:53:07 2003:

resp:371 very astute of you, oh Phillie boy.  But you still fail to 
grasp that I still had great fun along the way.  Sorry, you still lose.

Dinner was a bacon cheeseburger and fries with beer-battered 
mushrooms... yes, oh, so decadent.  Go ahead and make fun of me, you M-
Netters.  I really don't give a motherflying fuck.


#374 of 588 by jaklumen on Mon Oct 27 07:05:55 2003:

Yep.  Still don't.  Or maybe I should say I do.  Should have realized 
it would be in the parody of the conference.  Pretty fucking funny.  
Thanks, dah.  I should buy you a pizza, man.


#375 of 588 by scott on Mon Oct 27 13:51:02 2003:

Pancakes with homemade pear butter, Earl Grey tea.


#376 of 588 by anderyn on Mon Oct 27 14:34:46 2003:

Yes, we ate them in Canada. I would have liked to have brought some haggis
back, but Bruce said we couldn't.


#377 of 588 by keesan on Mon Oct 27 15:43:58 2003:

Oatmeal with fresh-picked apples from our favorite tree.  Lunch will start
with two tylenol and one benadryl and progress to three more pills for nausea
and may include a hospital blueberry bagel during infusion.  Last time Jim
found half a chocolate cupcake in the patient kitchen.


#378 of 588 by edina on Mon Oct 27 16:40:00 2003:

Re 373 and 374, people that go out of their way to say they don't care, really
do care.  Duh.


#379 of 588 by tod on Mon Oct 27 16:48:42 2003:

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#380 of 588 by happyboy on Mon Oct 27 18:26:47 2003:

lol


#381 of 588 by keesan on Tue Oct 28 02:41:08 2003:

Jim ate the bottom half of the cupcake.  Someone else probably pulled off the
top half.  Today he found two entire ones.  Lunch was all those pills, and
bread and cream cheese, and half a blueberry bagel and three juices and two
apples.  Things I could eat left handed.


#382 of 588 by jaklumen on Tue Oct 28 03:21:04 2003:

okay.

Today our larder was a little bare, so I had my father come over with 
a little food to tide us over until we could find some foodstuffs 
elsewhere.  He brought a half a head of Napa cabbage, some apples, and 
some Asian pears.  Julie made the cabbage into coleslaw, added some 
sunflower seeds, which I had for lunch with one of the Asian pears.

Right now, I'm having some steak with cucumbers and rice... we're 
trying to use the rice in our storage.

Oh yeah, I *am* heavily lampooned in the M-net parody of this cf, of 
this very item... well, quite a few items aren't altered much.  
Apparently not many believe in low-carb.  *shrug*  It's an 
experiment.  I know I've lost some inches-- that's what matters.

Breakfast is pretty damn funny when it's pretty much the same thing 
over and over again.


#383 of 588 by slynne on Tue Oct 28 03:56:31 2003:

If what you are doing is working for you, never mind what people think 
about it. 


#384 of 588 by bhoward on Tue Oct 28 03:58:34 2003:

Ogo's again today: laulau, ahi poke in a mayo and chili oil sauce,
fruitcup with coconut pudding, pine apple and mandarin orange, ice
kona coffee.

Promised myself to take a break on laulau - already made it twice at
home recently, but when Ryoji mentioned he had taken delivery of fresh
kalo leaves today...


#385 of 588 by mynxcat on Tue Oct 28 14:31:45 2003:

I admit, I'm pretty sceptical about low-carb diets, especially when 
they're substituted by high-fat diets. I understand that you should 
decrease your carb-intake, and protein is good, but when you have a 
lot of food that has high fat in it, I begin to wonder if that's 
really effective. It seems it's a heart-attack just waiting to happen.

But, as slynne says, if it works for you, that's what really matters. 
As long as no long-term damage is done, it's all good.


#386 of 588 by edina on Tue Oct 28 15:24:10 2003:

I personally believe that the word "buffet" is not part of any healthy eating
plan.


#387 of 588 by mynxcat on Tue Oct 28 16:03:41 2003:

Well, you could go to a buffet and pick out the less greasy stuff. And 
less of everything. Though, when it comes to me, I don't seem to work 
that way.


#388 of 588 by keesan on Tue Oct 28 16:04:56 2003:

Restaurant food in general is not healthy - it is usually full of fat and salt
and meat and not enough vegetables.  But a buffet at least lets you eat more
of the (salty fatty) vegetables.

High protein diets are bad for the kidneys and liver, which have to filter
out lots of protein breakdown products.  If you are eating a high-fat diet
and burning as many calories as you eat, it might not hurt you.  I read a
magazine article yesterday which seemed to say that 1/4 of Americans have
insulin problems and cannot eat large amounts of carbohydrates that put
glucose into their bodies too fast (refined carbohydrates).  Whole grains
digest much more slowly.  If jaklumen is in this group, I would suggest brown
rice, 100% whole wheat bread, rather than biscuits or jelly donuts, also a
lot more vegetables and fruits, which are not refined (whole fruits, not
sugary juices).  Cooking vegetables releases more vitamins (but don't boil
them and throw out the water -steam or microwave or stir fry).


#389 of 588 by other on Tue Oct 28 16:18:38 2003:

The only reason that there is even a shred of truth in the first 
statement of #388 is that, on balance, most restaurants are fast food 
places, or barely distinguishable therefrom.

If one makes a habit of avoiding those types of establishments, one may 
have an extremely well-balanced and healthy diet eating exclusively 
restaurant food.


#390 of 588 by remmers on Tue Oct 28 16:45:46 2003:

True, but the trick then is to avoid bankruptcy.


#391 of 588 by tod on Tue Oct 28 19:26:13 2003:

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#392 of 588 by happyboy on Tue Oct 28 19:37:12 2003:

oatmeal and coffee


#393 of 588 by slynne on Tue Oct 28 20:53:38 2003:

oatmeal and tea


#394 of 588 by tod on Tue Oct 28 20:54:58 2003:

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#395 of 588 by keesan on Tue Oct 28 21:18:49 2003:

Oatmeal with thawed milk from some dairy farmer friends with locally picked
apples.  All the restaurants I have eaten at make food that is greasy and
usually salty.  Dinersty will leave out the salt on request.  Chinese
restaurants will often steam food instead of frying it.  We cook without salt.
Tios food is to us inedible.  It takes me three days to recover form eating
in a restaurant and have the salt come back out of me.  At least the hospital
food was mostly not salty (just peppery).


#396 of 588 by tod on Tue Oct 28 21:33:35 2003:

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#397 of 588 by remmers on Tue Oct 28 22:07:51 2003:

Lunch was a tuna sandwich - 6 oz. of Starkist light tuna between two
slices of high-fiber bread, mayonaisse added - and a fresh veggie salad
with homebrewed oil and vinegar dressing.  Apple for dessert.

As usual, the cats demanded their share as soon as I had opened the
tuna can.


#398 of 588 by jaklumen on Wed Oct 29 05:03:03 2003:

resp:383 indeed, but read on...
still, I'm supposedly geeked about bacon pancakes at M-Net!

resp:385 note, I'm watching fat, too.  lots of salad at lunch.

resp:386 no, it's not going to be a habit... really.

resp:387 me too.

resp:388 true.  And when the hell did I say I was eating a lot of 
biscuits and jelly donuts, hmmm?  Brown rice doesn't keep too well, 
but I can consider it for dinner.  Right now I need to eat the white 
rice in storage.

resp:389 in general, that's why I'm learning to avoid them 
altogether... and I think my wallet will thank me for it.

I'm not even going to bother mentioning lunch... because I don't need 
the grief today.  I was going to have just coleslaw again (even though 
it's not terribly filling) but Julie put banana peppers in it (oh 
damn, I can't wait for the M-Net parody on this one) which put a bite 
in it.

Dinner is steak over rice again-- using what we have in our storage.

Two things, folks.  First of all, I gained a lot of friggin' weight 
because of that lovely drug, Depakote.  Yeah, I'm bipolar (You can 
kiss my ass making jokes about that).  Second, most low-carb diets are 
not meant to be long-term things.  I would like to return to maybe 
eating groats or something like that for breakfast because I'm sick of 
eating eggs every single day.  Dinners are good, but eggs... man, I 
hope somebody is parodying that, not to mention the endless lunches of 
salads or my silly gorges of Chinese buffet.  Preach on.


#399 of 588 by cmcgee on Wed Oct 29 12:27:02 2003:

I think you'll find that brown rice keeps at least as long as white in the
refrigerator.  And I've never had a problem with letting it sit in a covered
pan most of the day to eat from as a snack.


#400 of 588 by bhoward on Wed Oct 29 12:55:16 2003:

I'm about to eat...correction have just started eating Yumi's tasty fried
chicken.


#401 of 588 by bhelliom on Wed Oct 29 14:44:53 2003:

resp:400 - Impossible...oj's still looking for the real orange juice...


#402 of 588 by bhelliom on Wed Oct 29 14:45:32 2003:

oops...that was actually meant for resp:394


#403 of 588 by mynxcat on Wed Oct 29 15:19:51 2003:

Jak, whatever works for you is good. I agree about low-carb diets, 
I've been skeptical, and besides, don't think I could live with one. I 
love my carbs too much.

And I don't thinkg you need to apologise to anyone about your diet, or 
explain it. It's your food. I was just curious, because it seemed to 
me that a lot of it was not conventional "diet" food. (I haven't kept 
up with the new diets and theories out there. I'm a believer of eat 
less, eat healthy and exercise. But then I do realise that I'm lucky 
that I have the time to spend at the gym everyday. I know it's not a 
good solution for everybody)



#404 of 588 by tod on Wed Oct 29 16:32:45 2003:

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#405 of 588 by goose on Wed Oct 29 17:08:28 2003:

Are you talking about Brown vs. White in how long it stores on a shelf, or
once it's been cooked?


#406 of 588 by edina on Wed Oct 29 17:08:48 2003:

Hahahahahah!!!!

I had half an english muffin with half an egg and a bit of cheese.


#407 of 588 by remmers on Wed Oct 29 17:35:25 2003:

Lunch: Leftover chicken and an apple.


#408 of 588 by tod on Wed Oct 29 17:38:50 2003:

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#409 of 588 by keesan on Wed Oct 29 17:43:49 2003:

We buy brown rice 50 pounds at a time and store it unrefrigerated.  Even
though it contains more oil than white rice it keeps longer because the rice
is live seeds.  Brown rice flour would probably go rancid if left
unrefrigeratored for a long time, as does whole wheat flour in sores in small
towns where it does not sell well.

Any diet based primarily on meat is going to be high fat.


#410 of 588 by tod on Wed Oct 29 17:54:51 2003:

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#411 of 588 by anderyn on Wed Oct 29 18:04:14 2003:

Sweet potato steamed in teh microwave.


#412 of 588 by gelinas on Wed Oct 29 18:31:38 2003:

Great Harvest Savory Cheddar Scone.


#413 of 588 by edina on Wed Oct 29 18:43:02 2003:

I'm currently working through a small piece of pork loin stuffed with wild
mushrooms, some mashed potatoes and a bit of steamed broccoli.


#414 of 588 by jaklumen on Wed Oct 29 18:49:55 2003:

[this spot graciously and rampantly parodied by the folks at M-Net]

...and sometimes the jester has much to say.

You know, Sindi, for a skinny woman, you've got a lot of nerve 
preaching to a fat boy.  I understand you're probably thinking you're 
helping, as you live a great lifestyle... but I'm not sure you've 
struggled.

No, I've had some meds do funky things to my weight up and down, so 
it's not just the eating.

And you're not listening at all.  You hear "low-carb" and 
assume "mostly meat."  Not necessarily.  It's been lots of breakfasts 
of eggs, eggs, eggs.  Lunches have been endless salads, and when I 
failed to get creative, sometimes my willpower failed me and I made a 
poor eating choice.  Other days, it was "gee, that coleslaw wasn't very 
filling."  Dinner is pretty balanced, though.  I get a chance to eat 
plenty of vegetables and full-fiber grain... because dinner isn't 
supposed to be low-carb, per se.  I explained all of this in 
the "mynxcat wants to be svelte" item.

Now people may think I am probably unnecessarily justifying myself.  
But... I think I've said my peace.


#415 of 588 by tod on Wed Oct 29 19:26:00 2003:

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#416 of 588 by slynne on Wed Oct 29 19:33:56 2003:

YOu know. There is a reason that Sindi is so skinny. While I dont think 
I would be happy living and eating as she does, I have no doubt that if 
I did, it would make me very thin. 


#417 of 588 by happyboy on Wed Oct 29 19:34:13 2003:

coffee, oatmeal, nanner, water, AND MEDS.


#418 of 588 by keesan on Wed Oct 29 21:21:45 2003:

A ways back there - we get brown rice through a buying coop and it is
Lundberg.  The Arkansa grower seems to have gone out of business so no more
choice if we want organic brown rice.

I consider eggs in the same category as meat - no fiber, lots of fat and
protein, and too much protein means you are breaking it down for energy
(instead of carbohydrates being used for energy) which creates breakdown
products which are hard on the kidneys and liver.  Also meat/fish/milk/eggs
are a lot less bulky than vegetables and whole grains, and you will not fill
as full after eating them.

I fully understand that it is more difficult for some people to achieve a
healthy weight, and that drugs can make it harder to do so. 


#419 of 588 by edina on Wed Oct 29 21:26:15 2003:

Wait a minute - did you just say that it is easier to feel full after eating
vegetables than meat/fish/eggs?  Because I've found that to be just hte
opposite.


#420 of 588 by anderyn on Wed Oct 29 21:30:55 2003:

Exactly, meat/fish/eggs have fat, which make you feel fuller. At least, they
do me. The fat seems to be somewhat necessary to the sensation of fullness.


#421 of 588 by slynne on Wed Oct 29 21:57:25 2003:

Hehe. Certain veggies have a way of making me feel full but still 
hungry. It is annoying. 


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#423 of 588 by scott on Wed Oct 29 22:35:57 2003:

Mmmm... Wasabi peas.  They're like freebased sushi.


#424 of 588 by slynne on Wed Oct 29 23:18:53 2003:

Oh man. I love those. 


#425 of 588 by keesan on Thu Oct 30 00:08:34 2003:

I think we are using different definitions of full.  When I feel full, it
hurts to put more into my stomach.


#426 of 588 by tod on Thu Oct 30 00:18:19 2003:

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#427 of 588 by happyboy on Thu Oct 30 02:56:30 2003:

/passes t-d a sack of whitey's


#428 of 588 by slynne on Thu Oct 30 04:30:49 2003:

resp#425 - that is what I mean by full. It hurts to put more into my 
stomach. And yet, sometimes when I just eat veggies, I feel full but 
still feel hungry. It is a weird sensation and quite annoying because 
even though I am still hungry, I cant eat anything so I have to just be 
hungry. 


#429 of 588 by mynxcat on Thu Oct 30 15:21:27 2003:

I think I kn ow that feelin g - like when you feel bloated and 
couldn't possibly eat a bite, but your stomach's still growling. I 
hate that. Stupid over-active digestive system.

I'm having dry corn-flakes this morning. Good snack.

Also, yesterday, had the soft tacos at Chipotle. Then read an article 
about how the burrito at Chipotle was about 1300 calories!! Chipotle 
hasn't published it's nutritional information either on the site, or 
any of the calorie counter books I checked out at B&N. The article did 
mention that Chipotle had not made the nutritional content of it's 
meals avaialbe, but I thought it was mandatory that all restaurants 
could produce the nutritional content of it's meals if the public 
wanted it? Isn't this true.

Anyways, no more Chipotle for me for a long time. (Maybe this post 
should have gone in item 20 :P sorry)


#430 of 588 by edina on Thu Oct 30 15:28:54 2003:

I've e-mailed Chipotle - no, they don't have the nutritional values.  Which
I find annoying.  But, everyone's food varies, with their choices and the
generosity of the people making it.  I currently get the vegetarian burrito
bowl and eat about 1/3 of it, saving the rest for later.


#431 of 588 by mynxcat on Thu Oct 30 16:39:18 2003:

The Vegetarian Burrito apparently had as many calories as a burger and 
fries, or something similar. It seemed outrageously high. You can save 
some calories, by getting the bowl instead of the tortilla wrap (340 
calories), substituting rice with lettuce and skipping the guacomole.

That would be 430 calories and 4.5 gms of fat. I'm happier with a 
Subway sandwich at 280 calories and 4 gms of fat for the Turkey.


#432 of 588 by edina on Thu Oct 30 18:13:21 2003:

I would be worried if I ate it all at once (which I used to do - WOW!), but
now it's many meals for me.


#433 of 588 by mynxcat on Thu Oct 30 19:14:17 2003:

Yeah, I guess that's ok. I wish I had known *before* I had all three 
of my soft tacos, though. :( (Not to mention have to worry about how 
to pack really wet, messy soft tacos to have for later)


#434 of 588 by edina on Thu Oct 30 19:17:37 2003:

That's what's nice about the bowl.  it just wraps up - they'll give you the
foil.


#435 of 588 by dah on Thu Oct 30 20:53:08 2003:

Haha!  There's something for agora!  "pack really wet, messy soft wet 
tacos"!  AShaha.  j/k.


#436 of 588 by tsty on Tue Nov 4 04:48:49 2003:

meatloaf sammich w/ slice 'o-swiss, mustard, mayo, lettuce, on wholewheat


#437 of 588 by edina on Tue Nov 4 14:18:11 2003:

scrambled egg.


#438 of 588 by slynne on Tue Nov 4 19:08:20 2003:

For breakfast: A homemade breakfast shake. I always really liked the 
idea of slimfast because it is a quick and easy way to get some 
breakfast when one is in a hurry. But it gets most of it's calories 
from sugar which wasnt working for me. I would get hungry again too 
fast. So I bought some soy protein powder and I mix it with some 
metamucil and soy milk and that keeps me from feeling hungry until 
lunch. 

Lunch today was a chicken ceasar salad. 



#439 of 588 by keesan on Tue Nov 4 20:51:45 2003:

Fried fava beans.  First soak for at least 24 hours then fry slowly in a
little oil.  An attempt to add calories and protein.  You can also buy them
prefried at the Chinese food stores but they are somewhat stale and salty.

Odd that there is sugar in both weight-loss and weight-gain liquid
preparations.


#440 of 588 by tod on Tue Nov 4 23:45:41 2003:

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#441 of 588 by jaklumen on Wed Nov 5 04:11:44 2003:

resp:438 re: homemade shake... let me know if that works for you.


#442 of 588 by mary on Wed Nov 5 13:32:03 2003:

I awoke at 4:30 and after listening to the silence for 20 minutes or so I
got up and made a batch of cinnamon apple bread pudding.  I then went back
to bed only to awaken a little later to the aroma of baking cinnamon.  It
tastes wonderful.  My scruffy (morning mode) husband then appeared and I
gave his scratchy unshaved cheek a kiss. 

All in all it's only 8:30 and I've exercised all five senses. ;-) 



#443 of 588 by scott on Wed Nov 5 14:02:21 2003:

French toast, with various toppings.  Tea, Earl Grey, hot.


#444 of 588 by slynne on Wed Nov 5 14:23:02 2003:

resp:441 - I am not drinking that shake in any attempt to lose weight. 
It just need something somedays that is quick and can hold me until 
lunch time. So in that sense, this works for me :)


#445 of 588 by tod on Wed Nov 5 18:19:46 2003:

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#446 of 588 by edina on Wed Nov 5 18:54:48 2003:

Half a calzone, stuffed with peppers and ricotta.


#447 of 588 by slynne on Wed Nov 5 19:51:28 2003:

I do the oatmeal thing quite a lot but it isnt always an option. 


#448 of 588 by keesan on Wed Nov 5 21:46:44 2003:

Asparagus, tater tots, fried rice, broccoli, strawberries, ice cream, fried
potatoes, mushrooms, canned peaches and mandarin oranges, watermelon, green
beans, more ice cream, mussels, sushi.


#449 of 588 by remmers on Wed Nov 5 22:55:29 2003:

You ate all that stuff at one sitting?


#450 of 588 by keesan on Wed Nov 5 23:21:17 2003:

Yes, a little of each, at Gourmet Garden.  They don't have much of a vegetable
selection so you have to pick out the vegetables from the meat, which is where
the asparagus and broccoli came from.  I am trying to gain weight so should
probably not have eaten mostly vegetables and fruit.


#451 of 588 by jaklumen on Thu Nov 6 07:06:14 2003:

resp:444 ok, quite clear now.  Sometimes I'm in a rush mornings, was 
wondering if you thought it beneficial towards weight loss/maintenance.


#452 of 588 by tsty on Thu Nov 6 10:47:58 2003:

broiled pickeral ... linguine & meat sauce .. host made it deductable
for mom's and my lunch.    gotta luv it ...


#453 of 588 by edina on Thu Nov 6 14:26:38 2003:

Toast with a piece of cheese on it.


#454 of 588 by tod on Thu Nov 6 19:22:32 2003:

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#455 of 588 by keesan on Mon Nov 10 01:04:52 2003:

I got tired of planning meals.  Jim decided to make stir-fried frozen zucchini
and brocolli with tofu and peanuts on quinoa.  The textures were interesting.
Everything is tending to taste the same now except for preserved eggs.  But
I am going to hit 110 this year no matter what it takes.


#456 of 588 by jaklumen on Mon Nov 10 01:46:47 2003:

I don't know where I'd find quinoa in my area, exactly, but that meal 
sounds interesting.


#457 of 588 by keesan on Mon Nov 10 16:22:04 2003:

We get ours from either the food coop, or a food buying club that orders from
Blooming Prairie, a cooperative food supplying company in Indiana.  Quinoa
has a very mild taste a bit like corn (maize).  


#458 of 588 by other on Tue Nov 11 02:38:42 2003:

But nuttier.  Definitely a more subte flavor than corn, though.


#459 of 588 by jaklumen on Tue Nov 11 03:51:17 2003:

Hmm... might have to see if our food coop has it here.


#460 of 588 by keesan on Tue Nov 11 16:09:50 2003:

You can also try amaranth, which the North Americans grew.  Quinoa was
Peruvian.  Or millet (birdseed to some), which is much cheaper.


#461 of 588 by remmers on Tue Nov 11 17:35:47 2003:

My loyalty to steel cut oats is steadfast and unswerving.


#462 of 588 by tod on Tue Nov 11 21:23:31 2003:

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#463 of 588 by jaklumen on Wed Nov 12 03:24:59 2003:

huh?


#464 of 588 by tpryan on Thu Nov 13 19:11:00 2003:

        Time for Banquet lunch with chicken patties, potatoes, corn and
brownie.


#465 of 588 by bhoward on Fri Nov 14 04:14:05 2003:

Tsulatamen today.  Yum.


#466 of 588 by tsty on Fri Nov 14 07:11:51 2003:

1/3 kmart cooked chicken ... not bad!


#467 of 588 by mynxcat on Fri Nov 14 14:29:35 2003:

Bruce, you're in Japan, right. Do they sell rice and curry on the 
streets as a form of fast food?


#468 of 588 by tod on Fri Nov 14 17:25:20 2003:

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#469 of 588 by bhoward on Sat Nov 15 16:29:41 2003:

japanese curry-rice joints definitely set the bar for speed-of-service.

at my "local", Curry King, we start complaining about the slack service
if a steaming plate of katsu curry rice isn't set by the time our jackets
are off.

in the same tradition, hokka hokka bento generally have you out the door
bento-in-hand within seconds of ordering (and paying).


#470 of 588 by scott on Sat Nov 15 19:27:48 2003:

Club sandwich at Arbor Brewing, followed by tea and a cookie at Eastern
Accents.


#471 of 588 by happyboy on Sat Nov 15 21:22:14 2003:

eggamoobymuffins.


#472 of 588 by keesan on Sat Nov 15 21:33:09 2003:

Mashed turnip with sliced rutabaga on cold rice with pickled lime.  Still
trying to eat fresh local produce.  Other options were black radish, green
radish, or white radish (daikon) or purple cabbage, onions, potatoes, squash.
Or a very large pumpkin.


#473 of 588 by bhoward on Sun Nov 16 01:30:13 2003:

ira-kamo tsukune, gyoza, atsu age, hotate batta furai, pitcher of beer.


#474 of 588 by tsty on Sun Nov 16 07:06:19 2003:

rice beer?
/
/


#475 of 588 by bhoward on Sun Nov 16 11:25:40 2003:

nah, nah.  da odda kine.


#476 of 588 by scott on Sun Nov 16 14:27:33 2003:

Pancakes with salmon-flavored cream cheese, Earl Grey tea.


#477 of 588 by other on Sun Nov 16 18:07:11 2003:

experimental paella.  unanimously lauded by all.  what a wonderful 
birthday gift.  :)


#478 of 588 by tpryan on Sun Nov 16 18:22:53 2003:

        Ham and cheese sandwhich.


#479 of 588 by remmers on Sun Nov 16 20:37:59 2003:

For lunch, a garden salad slapped together by yours truly.  Spinach,
red yellow and orange peppers, carrots, tomato, avacodo, cucumber,
olive oil, wine vinegar, and a bit of turkey meat to provide
protein.  For dessert, a small apple.


#480 of 588 by keesan on Mon Nov 17 00:42:37 2003:

Local organic produce for supper consisting of boiled/mashed Jerusalem
artichokes from when Jim weeded the front yard (they were flowering profusely
about 10 feet high) and brussels sprouts fresh from the stalk that we bought
at market.   Most years we freeze lots of vegetables and fruits for winter
but this year since I don't have the energy we are planning to empty our
freezer of things from the last two years.  Especially since they started to
thaw during the August blackout.


#481 of 588 by tod on Mon Nov 17 19:34:10 2003:

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#482 of 588 by mynxcat on Mon Nov 17 20:22:22 2003:

Subway sandwich and tea


#483 of 588 by tod on Mon Nov 17 22:44:29 2003:

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#484 of 588 by bhoward on Mon Nov 17 23:25:19 2003:

had a company dinner last night at a place called nobu's near roppongi.
mmmm.  sashimi, sushi, maguro steak with a tamanegi pepper shoyu sauze,
filet mignon with pan seared pate of some sort, miso soup, dessert.


#485 of 588 by happyboy on Tue Nov 18 02:30:10 2003:

...lipitor,d-fibz.


#486 of 588 by keesan on Tue Nov 18 02:54:14 2003:

Six premedication pills in pear sauce, bread, cheese, and apples all eaten
with my right hand since my left had was hooked up.  A raw carrot.  This week
I should eat lots of fiber and drink lots of liquids.


#487 of 588 by bru on Tue Nov 18 03:43:43 2003:

Spelt spagetti with tomato and mushroom sauce, meatballs, and a mixed greens
salad.


#488 of 588 by gelinas on Tue Nov 18 05:57:18 2003:

Jambalaya and seafood gumbo.  Cornbread muffins.  Ceasar salad.  Apple pie
with cheddar cheese.


#489 of 588 by tsty on Tue Nov 18 07:02:33 2003:

took mom to the bar .. chicken soup and 1/2 lb burger - luved it


#490 of 588 by keesan on Tue Nov 18 13:55:28 2003:

Prilosec on homemade pear sauce, to be followed in an hour by breakfast with
more pear sauce (prednisone).  The menu through Friday also includes food with
no salt but lots of fiber.  We have plenty of Jerusalem artichoke, for which
the coop is asking $6.50 a pound.  Once you plant one, you have a jungle of
them that is hard to remove.  They need no weeding, fertilizer, or much sun.


#491 of 588 by bhoward on Tue Nov 18 15:56:15 2003:

Dessert tonight was more of Sunday's homemade applesauce (a little
too heavy on the clove, I'm afraid but ah well).


#492 of 588 by tod on Tue Nov 18 23:02:36 2003:

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#493 of 588 by gelinas on Tue Nov 18 23:24:36 2003:

Nothing like good scotch to chase anabuse. :)


#494 of 588 by tod on Tue Nov 18 23:28:26 2003:

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#495 of 588 by mynxcat on Wed Nov 19 15:23:17 2003:

Tea.


#496 of 588 by tpryan on Wed Nov 19 20:29:41 2003:

finger: chunks: no such user.


#497 of 588 by mynxcat on Wed Nov 19 20:55:21 2003:

Ham and Turkey Grinder, Cole Slaw, Chocolate Chip cookie and Orange 
Juice


#498 of 588 by bhoward on Wed Nov 19 23:55:35 2003:

yumi-chan's homemade kabocha soup.


#499 of 588 by edina on Thu Nov 20 18:19:06 2003:

Small salad with beans and eggs on it, small soup.


#500 of 588 by mynxcat on Thu Nov 20 19:02:27 2003:

Turkey sandwiches on low-fat multi-grain bread. Fruit at the Bottom 
Dannon's yogurt.


#501 of 588 by willcome on Fri Nov 21 04:26:28 2003:

I'm gonna eat a POUTINE tommorow.


#502 of 588 by mynxcat on Fri Nov 21 14:17:54 2003:

Brownie, goldfish and carrots with dip. We're "celebrating" in advance 
the Buckeyes kicking the Wolverines' ass tomorrow. (We as in the 
office)


#503 of 588 by keesan on Fri Nov 21 17:23:59 2003:

How many goldfish did you swallow?


#504 of 588 by mynxcat on Fri Nov 21 18:09:23 2003:

heh. It's those little crackers. Maybe have been about 20.

Japanese curry (the kind I suspect are treated as fast food in Japan, 
remember bhoward, I asked?) with tilapia fish, rice, fruit at the 
bottom (peach) yogurt, and maybe some grapes later


#505 of 588 by krj on Fri Nov 21 19:04:02 2003:

Friday fish fry at Olden Days restaurant in Fowlerville.  
Alas, way below their usual high quality today.


#506 of 588 by willcome on Fri Nov 21 19:29:02 2003:

Fuck.  I bought a poutine, but was sold a cheese'n'gravy fries.


#507 of 588 by happyboy on Fri Nov 21 19:33:08 2003:

ah, the poutine, canada's answer to chicken fried staek.




#508 of 588 by ea on Sun Nov 23 04:40:06 2003:

re #502 - would you like a side of crow for that "celebration"? ;)


#509 of 588 by jaklumen on Sun Nov 23 10:15:31 2003:

resp:506 I've heard of gravy on fries, but never tried 'em.


#510 of 588 by tpryan on Sun Nov 23 20:20:20 2003:

        Time for a sunday Chicken Dinner

        It should be done in the microwave....right about...now...ding!


#511 of 588 by keesan on Sun Nov 23 23:51:24 2003:

A large panful of peeled, sliced, oiled, baked, organic red potatoes and some
organic carrots.  They are supposed to taste sort of fried.


#512 of 588 by gregb on Mon Nov 24 16:51:42 2003:

I tried chocolate filled crepes for the first time Sunday.  Sounded good 
but left me a bit queezy.


#513 of 588 by krj on Mon Nov 24 18:07:33 2003:

Eggs, corned beef hash and hashbrowns, in Fowlerville.


#514 of 588 by willcome on Mon Nov 24 19:09:22 2003:

I ate a whore.  (AHAHA).


#515 of 588 by mynxcat on Mon Nov 24 19:11:04 2003:

Subway sandwich


#516 of 588 by keesan on Mon Nov 24 20:12:28 2003:

Sticky rice pudding with dried chestnuts and jujubes.  Peanuts boiled with
anise.  Ginger and daikon soup.  


#517 of 588 by scott on Mon Nov 24 20:18:09 2003:

Baked meatloaf, with whipped potatoes and corn.  Figured after working most
of last night and giving blood this afternoon I should get some extra calories
into my system.


#518 of 588 by keesan on Mon Nov 24 20:34:12 2003:

Thanks for giving blood.  I used three units in August and Jim is putting off
giving until January.  Meatloaf has lots of iron.  How many calories in a unit
of blood?


#519 of 588 by scott on Mon Nov 24 21:40:18 2003:

Dunno how many calories, none of the grocery stores I've been to sell human
blood so I've never seen the nutrition label.


#520 of 588 by bru on Tue Nov 25 04:31:01 2003:

home made beef stew


#521 of 588 by tsty on Tue Nov 25 05:25:18 2003:

pizza


#522 of 588 by gregb on Tue Nov 25 15:58:54 2003:

Mac & cheese and, for desert, homemade banana-nut cookies.


#523 of 588 by keesan on Tue Nov 25 17:43:23 2003:

Soybeans with slivered kelp on rice, delivered to our door.


#524 of 588 by edina on Tue Nov 25 18:29:18 2003:

Cup of corn chowder and some crackers.


#525 of 588 by remmers on Tue Nov 25 18:57:32 2003:

(Re #523: Delivered by a vegan mermaid, no doubt.)


#526 of 588 by gregb on Tue Nov 25 19:03:47 2003:

/Corn/ chowder? B-p


#527 of 588 by keesan on Tue Nov 25 19:08:14 2003:

Re 523/525 - soy beans (and black beans, lots of them) were delivered by a
carnivore trying to be nice to us.  I told her to cook anything she found in
my apartment.  


#528 of 588 by other on Tue Nov 25 22:16:16 2003:

Peach/Almond Italian Soda served with pleasant conversation by a 
lovely young Portuguese woman in Farmington Hills.


#529 of 588 by bru on Wed Nov 26 03:29:07 2003:

tossed salad, rice with ground beef, tapioca pudding


#530 of 588 by bhoward on Wed Nov 26 14:17:07 2003:

turkey, swiss on whole wheat, crab cakes from the amish farmer's market.


#531 of 588 by gregb on Wed Nov 26 14:33:10 2003:

Franks & beans...Heaven help my co-workers.


#532 of 588 by krj on Wed Nov 26 18:32:03 2003:

McDonald's steak, egg & cheese bagel.


#533 of 588 by mynxcat on Wed Nov 26 20:23:06 2003:

Was this sbreakfast? Didn't know McDonald's served bagels after 
breakfast.


#534 of 588 by krj on Thu Nov 27 06:11:39 2003:

It was breakfast, I'm just late in reporting.
 
Grilled cheese sandwich, chocolate chip cookies.


#535 of 588 by willcome on Thu Nov 27 07:27:07 2003:

I drank some coffee.

whore


#536 of 588 by bru on Thu Nov 27 14:16:56 2003:

willcome, did you ever think you might be more comfortable on m-net?


#537 of 588 by krokus on Thu Nov 27 16:05:36 2003:

Had grits at the Zingerman's Roadhouse lastnight for dinner, which while
it was good, I don't think was quite worth the money they charged.

Just ate a 'strawberry' fruit leather as a snack.  (It's got more than just
strawberries in it, which is why I quoted it.)


#538 of 588 by happyboy on Thu Nov 27 18:27:28 2003:

r536: he's already there, stink-0


#539 of 588 by keesan on Thu Nov 27 23:07:52 2003:

Soup made from frozen chestnuts, fresh sweet potatoes, fresh yams (a totally
different plant from sweet potato) and dried pitted jujubes
Soy duck made from tofu skins with flavoring
Two vegetable dishes - chives with scrambled eggs, bok choy with wood ear
Nuts - peanuts boiled with anise

I wonder if you can also get Chinese soy turkey?
Brought over for later use:  chrysanthemum tea, dried lily flowers, preserved
black beans, some little black rice-like things from water lily seeds to be
cooked with beans, soy milk powder, preserved vegetable with chili (looks like
a knobby kohlrabi), preserved daikon (pickled in salt).

The yam is medicinal.  I wonder if it cures hot flashes.  Most fruits and
vegetables appear to cure something in China.


#540 of 588 by bru on Fri Nov 28 02:09:15 2003:

Turkey breast, mashed taters, spelt bread stuffing, salad, pumpkin pie,
whipped topping, bacardi rum cake


#541 of 588 by tpryan on Fri Nov 28 20:17:13 2003:

        Turkey, dressing, gravy, mashed potatoes, cranberry thingie.
Though it is from Banquet, I am pretending it is Thanksgiving 
leftovers.


#542 of 588 by keesan on Fri Nov 28 21:50:00 2003:

Thanksgiving leftovers - chestnut/jujube soup, etc.  Plus some onions stir
fried with preserved black beans and pickled Chinese kohlrabi.


#543 of 588 by jep on Fri Nov 28 22:34:16 2003:

re resp:541: I went to KFC today.  We went out to dinner yesterday, so 
we didn't have any leftovers, either.  I miss having hot turkey 
sandwiches.


#544 of 588 by krj on Sat Nov 29 01:23:16 2003:

Way too much food at Holiday's restaurant in Ann Arbor, which we had not 
been to in several years.  Decent fish & chips and potato skins.


#545 of 588 by bru on Sat Nov 29 02:27:01 2003:

I love their food.
 I had Lasagna with salad


#546 of 588 by dcat on Sat Nov 29 09:23:32 2003:

by family tradition, thanksgiving dinner was on friday.  we had a colleague
of  my parents', a graduate student of my mother's, his wife  and son, and
snowth and orinoco.  Turkey, mashed potatos, stuffing, cranberry sauce, corn,
peas, gravy, pumpkin pie, pumpkin cheesecake, and chocolate bourbon pecan pie.

afterward, snowth & orinoco & i joined another friend of theirs and discovered
the new fleetwood diner east, attached to the Marathon station at Michigan
& Carpenter, across from Sam's Club, and had most of a plate of chili cheese
fries.


#547 of 588 by willcome on Sat Nov 29 11:15:48 2003:

Why don't you, a purveyor of fine literature, know how to write English?  "of
my parents'".  Pfgffs.   I scoff at you (and your face).


#548 of 588 by other on Sat Nov 29 14:20:45 2003:

FOAD


#549 of 588 by virre on Sat Nov 29 14:34:56 2003:

Err soory if this come wrong or something, but like thow do you use this bbs
thingie? Liketo now. 


#550 of 588 by scott on Mon Dec 1 22:54:11 2003:

Mostly in stomach:  Dogfish Head "90 Minute IPA", scored while in Chicago for
Thanksgiving.  Salad, mostly spinach and broccoli.

Currently cooking:  Red potatoes, top round steak.


#551 of 588 by krj on Wed Dec 3 01:56:36 2003:

Brown rice with tamari sauce, and an apple, and some Earl Grey iced
tea.


#552 of 588 by gelinas on Wed Dec 3 02:05:54 2003:

Chicken and noodle soup, turkey sandwiches and a Kalamazoo Stout.


#553 of 588 by bru on Wed Dec 3 02:22:56 2003:

hamburger, no bun  tossed salad   tapioca pudding


#554 of 588 by krj on Wed Dec 3 05:10:33 2003:

Leftovers from Holiday's restaurant: parts of a club sandwich, and 
potato skins.


#555 of 588 by keesan on Wed Dec 3 12:56:49 2003:

Skinned potatoes with cheese, soybean and tomato juice and zucchini soup,
breadmaker bread.


#556 of 588 by gregb on Wed Dec 3 14:47:16 2003:

Liver, mashed spuds, green beans and choclate pudding for desert


#557 of 588 by edina on Wed Dec 3 15:12:09 2003:

Wow!!  I haven't had liver in ages!!  I love the stuff.


#558 of 588 by tod on Wed Dec 3 17:02:11 2003:

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#559 of 588 by jmsaul on Thu Dec 4 01:52:41 2003:

Re #554, 555:  Nice that you guys are sharing your potatoes like that.


#560 of 588 by krj on Fri Dec 5 00:13:42 2003:

Brown rice and soy sauce.


#561 of 588 by bhoward on Fri Dec 5 00:57:09 2003:

Pork, chicken briefly marinated in a kiawe (mesquite) sauce wrapped
in kalo leaves and steamed.  Yep, it was another laulau night.  Yum!


#562 of 588 by tod on Fri Dec 5 01:05:24 2003:

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#563 of 588 by keesan on Fri Dec 5 03:25:41 2003:

Two out of three small microwaved potatoes, a little sweet potato and chestnut
soup, and a preserved egg.  Things are tasting peculiar again.


#564 of 588 by bru on Fri Dec 5 03:46:01 2003:

steak and salad followed by ice cream


#565 of 588 by mynxcat on Fri Dec 5 14:18:51 2003:

hot chocolate


#566 of 588 by tpryan on Fri Dec 5 19:31:06 2003:

        Yum! Another Banquest Turkey Dinner for lunch.


#567 of 588 by krj on Fri Dec 5 22:04:52 2003:

Friday's Fowlerville Fish Fry, at Olden Days.  Finest fried fish
in the area.  They brought us way too much on the second plate so
I had to smuggle the last piece out for later.


#568 of 588 by happyboy on Fri Dec 5 22:45:38 2003:

/stands by with the alkaseltzer and shock paddles


#569 of 588 by tod on Sat Dec 6 01:07:47 2003:

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#570 of 588 by keesan on Sat Dec 6 05:29:09 2003:

Home fried fava beans.  Soak them first, then peel if desired.


#571 of 588 by tod on Mon Dec 8 20:46:12 2003:

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#572 of 588 by keesan on Mon Dec 8 23:34:59 2003:

Potato tater barrels and cream puff at a Chinese buffet, and the usual
vegetables and fruits.  I now need to regain 2 pounds.


#573 of 588 by bru on Tue Dec 9 04:36:23 2003:

steak, tossed salad, and butter pecan ice cream.


#574 of 588 by krj on Tue Dec 9 05:57:05 2003:

Salad and some sort of leftover chicken and noodles dish.


#575 of 588 by keesan on Tue Dec 9 15:01:41 2003:

Two cups of expensive orange juice.  Jim is convinced that I lost 2 pounds
due to drinking water, which has no calories.  I would only have to drink
about 35 cups (maybe only 20) of orange juice to gain a pound.  Apart from
the added expense (water is free), it can't hurt and maybe will make my cold
go away faster.  The cheap orange juice tastes bitter because they squeeze
the skins with it and the oil from them gets into the juice.  


#576 of 588 by tod on Tue Dec 9 18:40:12 2003:

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#577 of 588 by bhoward on Tue Dec 23 04:09:07 2003:

Well, I've just starting making the kalua pig, turkey starts in another hour
and reenforcements with sashimi, ebi chilli, veggies, salads and all kine
snacks, munchies and desserts apparently land any time now.  Oops, almost
forgot the cranberry and spuds.

Yep, it's the annual Christmas dinner, Japanese Lu'au stylee at the Howard's!
Held, as tradition demands, on the 23rd which is the nearest national holiday
to Christmas we have handy in these parts.


#578 of 588 by twenex on Tue Dec 23 15:08:22 2003:

What's the holiday for?

How common is Christianity over there?

How diffiucult is it to get in the Xmas spirit witfew people
celebrating it?


#579 of 588 by tpryan on Tue Dec 23 16:08:54 2003:

        Raisin Bran Crunch this morning, however a tad of the eggnog
was mixed in with the milk to give it a richer taste.
        Picked up a Fox's Pasty in Dearborn last night for dinner
as I was in the area.


#580 of 588 by tod on Tue Dec 23 16:41:55 2003:

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#581 of 588 by mynxcat on Tue Dec 23 17:42:12 2003:

Do they really put in an ox's tail in oxtail soup?


#582 of 588 by tod on Tue Dec 23 17:42:46 2003:

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#583 of 588 by mynxcat on Tue Dec 23 19:07:19 2003:

From the tail?


#584 of 588 by tod on Tue Dec 23 19:09:19 2003:

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#585 of 588 by mynxcat on Tue Dec 23 19:30:09 2003:

Ew


#586 of 588 by tod on Tue Dec 23 21:26:13 2003:

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#587 of 588 by bhoward on Wed Dec 24 01:59:06 2003:

Re#578: The holiday is to celebrate Emperor Akihito's birthday (Tenno
no tanjobi no hi).

According to our friends at the CIA:
    http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ja.html#People,

Japanese that "observe both Shinto and Buddhist 84%, other 16% (including
Christian 0.7%)".  But don't let statistics like that distract you.
Christmas is alive and well, if not transplanted entirely unscathed into
the Japanese milieu.

Keep in mind that the Japanese I've probably met personally are a small
slice of 127 million at large across the archipelago and most of those are
cityfolk living in Tokyo or Kyoto.  Having said that, my own experience
is that folks quite enjoy the Christmas spirit, at least in terms of
the lights, traditional music and the occasional Santa running around.
For many younger folks, Christmas is more like valentines day and they see
it as an occasion to go out on a "hot-o date-o" in some romantic locale.

Some of the stores treat it more like a sporting event with posters
touting "Christmas 2003!" (for our American readers, imagine this
being said by a Japanese announcer with a voice like the fellow who used
to do the "World of Wheels! Wheels!  Wheels!" adverts for the super car
shows).  

Personally, we find that if you are not too fussed about the details and
willing to celebrate approximately around the 25th rather than necessarily
on the exact date it's quite easy to get into the holiday spirit.  The
25th may not a business holiday but the emperors birthday just before is.
Wait a few days and you may avail yourself of new years, a national three
day event in indurance drinking.  And if you are on social terms with
your neighbors as we are, it's never a challenge to scare up a crowd to
share in some seasonal cheer...or as the case may be, "kompai!" :-)


#588 of 588 by slynne on Wed Dec 24 16:48:58 2003:

That sounds really nice, Bruce. :) Merry Christmas!


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