Do you have cognitive guests, based on real people but built to suit, who occasionally pop into your head, whereupon you begin intense mental discourse? I do, and I know some other people who do, but I'm not sure it's universal.35 responses total.
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They ridicule me endlessly, and when I can grab one I choke it death.
Nononon. They're guests. They're well-behaved. You guys probably don't have the cognitive power to have them.
Oooh. Condescending. Do you expect this survey to continue with that attitude?
I often debate with myself, but the reticent self who always says things like "it's probably not worth the bother" wins with distressing frequency.
Of all the people in this item, I'm probably the one with the most advanced mind: It holds debates between me and OTHER PEOPLE.
That must be a definition of advanced with which I am not familiar. If your mind is the example of the definition, then the word I would have used is "defective."
Why?
Based solely on the ability (or lack thereof) you have thus far demonstrated on Grex to participate in discussions.
Is it really an inability? I think it's mostly just an idon'treallycaremuchility. I, you know, am quite able to participate in discussions, but really now why would I bother with serious such on Grex?
Well, then. That both alters the basis for my conclusion and significantly strengthens it. After all, why would you bother to post all the drivel you do in the midst of other people's discussions if you have no interest in participating in the discussions UNLESS you had a defective mind?
Anyways, other, even if I had a defective mind, it hardly means all people who have 'Tarpist style cognitive guests do. You're off topic.
Well. If that ain't the putz calling the kettle a schmuck...
You're the one who thinks talking about something unrelated proves your point. Stop filibustering.
Is this getting you any closer to getting laid, David?
well, nok krj, it involves 'intense mental discourse' nto intercourse.....
I thought resp:6 was funny. I do not entertain parties in my mind. My feelings were hurt when I invited over some imaginary friends but they were too busy with implausible "other plans".
Re #15: I think he's hoping to seduce one of his cognitive guests.
Actually, I've got a different (but still interesting) way of thinking. The logical part of my brain tends to run things, and is right in front of everything else. However, it's not very good at figuring out emotional issues and intuitive things. Those parts of the brain tend to take much longer to communicate with the outside world. So whenever some tricky, non-obvious problem comes up, the logical part has learned to put it aside (usually for a day) to see what answers seep up from other parts of the brain. It's surprising what good answers I come up with, when I spend the time waiting for them to arrive.
Re #0: My thinking occasionally takes the form of imaginary conversations with real people. I'm not sure this is what you mean, though. They don't just "pop into my head" and start gabbing; I summon them. I'm always very conscious of the fact that I'm just thinking about them; there's no illusion that these visitations have any autonomy of their own. Is there any apparent physical dimension to your "guests"? Can you visualize them clearly? Hear their voices as if they were real people in the same room with you? Re #19: Oh yes, I became very much aware of background mental processing when I was a student of mathematics. Faced with a novel math problem that that I was having a hard time solving, I'd put it aside for a while and think about other things. When I'd come back to it a few hours or a couple of days later, the solution would often just jump out at me.
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Also Re #19: I experience the same phenomenon of unconcious mental processing in a wide range of thought processes. It happens with difficult mathematical problems, as remmers recounts, but also in much more common things, like crossword puzzles or just remembering names. I will get stuck on a crossword puzzle, but if I put it aside for a while, words just seems to fall into place when I pick it up again. I am now applying this to trying to remember the name of a store that I have been to but can't recall. I can visualize the store but, in what is probably what is called a "senior moment", I can't recall its name. I have the catalog in my bookshelf, but am determined to recall the name and not look it up, so am applying "unconcious mental processing". It's there somewhere.....
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i turn into a baloney sannidge.
Re. 20: No, there's nothing physical to it. Indeed, it most often happens when I'm withdrawn in thought and slightly disassociated from my surroundings. I'm not sure what you mean by summoning them; mine just fit into my train of thought where apt. Usually, the discussions asimply me explaining complex thoughts I have in normal language; that is, I am able to reaffirm what I know on a higher level by explaining it to a conciousness apparently other than my own. But let's not think I'm crazy here: I understand that the cognitive guests are simply part of my mind, and they're not overbearing or anything like that.
There's a difference between intelligence, common sense, & experience. Wisdom is some combination of at least the last two that you only get with age. Experience is of much less value without the common sense to take advantage of that experience. Simple lack of thought makes anybody look stupid, but it takes real intelligence to look truely foolish. It is not always easy to distinguish between the mark of genius and a complete fool, because you only find a true genius 1% of the time, followed by a continuum that shades into foolishness. I don't have discrete "uninvited" guests who show up and camp out in my head. I do have thoughts that show up as snide comments which are not necessarily what I meant to be thinking. I'm quite capable of arguing with myself, or inventing characters, or imagining myself discussing something with somebody, and I don't always have an organized thought train that leads to this happening in my imagination. Unless I'm really *really* tired and under some sort of seriously weird stress, though, what happens in my imagination is usually pretty much under my conscious control.
I have conversations with real people. They're just not necessarily always present for them, so I have to provide their responses as well as my own. :)
Re #22: L.L.Bean! (But I got it because a new catalog arrived from them today....but at least I remembered that that was the store whose name I could not remember....)
I experience the same phenomenon with crossword puzzles ar Rane does. I figure that when you think about a problem for a little while, a little rut forms in your brain, so that ideas always get channelled along a certain path. If you wait a while, the rut smooths over, and ideas can go in new and better directions.
Honestly, you have no idea.
Re #29: or perhaps after you form that rut, the "answers" swirling around the brain fall into it if they fit. That is (to make it clearer) the question "receptor" is formed and eventually picks up the answer "ligand".
rcurl, remmers, aruba, mdw adn i share similar mind-space. it;s quite startling for hte first few occurrances. expected after a while.
Oh. I don't think it's at all unusual. Usually, the grand extrapolations happen after sleep, when I do it. happened just this morning.
but, dah, you are on grex, with grexers ... it wouldn't be statistically unusual for us.
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