Grex Agora47 Conference

Item 7: Everybody talks about the weather

Entered by tpryan on Wed Sep 24 13:24:08 2003:

        We all want to talk about the weather.  Here is a place.
123 responses total.
#1 of 123 by tpryan on Wed Sep 24 13:38:18 2003:

        Gloomy Wednesday.  Yesterday looked wonderful.

#2 of 123 by remmers on Wed Sep 24 23:14:18 2003:

Thunder and lightning as we speak.  The first storm of autumn.

#3 of 123 by jaklumen on Wed Sep 24 23:54:55 2003:

Temperate and sunny over here.

#4 of 123 by mcnally on Thu Sep 25 00:41:09 2003:

  Had a gale here last night that blew the porch furniture around on the
  deck and dropped a small tree on our power lines but on the bright side
  we didn't get the two inches of heavy rain that was forecast for today..

#5 of 123 by tod on Thu Sep 25 05:51:19 2003:

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#6 of 123 by twenex on Thu Sep 25 11:06:22 2003:

Second day of autumn yesterday and frost on the ground already. sigh.

Location: Northeast England (just below Scotland, more or less).

#7 of 123 by remmers on Thu Sep 25 13:45:07 2003:

Ann Arbor got a bunch of rain last night, accompanied by electrical
phenomena (including a power failure of about a minute in our
neighborhood).  Today is sunny, and the vegetation looks real green.

#8 of 123 by bhoward on Fri Sep 26 05:42:47 2003:

Lesse, typhoon last weekend, 8.0 (Richter) earthquake yesterday, and
3-5 tsunami along some coastal areas.  At least the volcano hasn't
erupt..$$#~~~73(*&(*&#$

#9 of 123 by albaugh on Fri Sep 26 17:07:34 2003:

bhoward, where are you reporting from?

#10 of 123 by arnezthe on Fri Sep 26 17:14:30 2003:

he[C in indonesia / bogor cloudy

#11 of 123 by remmers on Sat Sep 27 12:29:08 2003:

Re #9: Last I knew, bhoward was living in Japan.  The IP address
he connected from suggests that he still does.

(Hi Bruce!)

#12 of 123 by cmcgee on Sat Sep 27 13:02:01 2003:

With maybe a vacation or temporary posting to Hawaii?

#13 of 123 by arnezthe on Sat Sep 27 16:05:01 2003:

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#14 of 123 by remmers on Sun Sep 28 03:28:02 2003:

Maybe I will, but not in the weather item.

#15 of 123 by bhoward on Tue Sep 30 06:12:24 2003:

(howzit, john!)

still in tokyo, slightly different location near the tama river.  have a
house in hawai`i, but working in tokyo to pay for it :-)

the weather here this afternoon is perfect.  sunny, blue skies, warm
with light fall winds breezing by from time to time.

#16 of 123 by krj on Tue Sep 30 06:16:00 2003:

We saw the CBC coverage of Hurricane Juan's impact on Nova Scotia
and Prince Edward Island.   A few dead, 200,000 without power, 
downed trees and building damage.   No mention of it in the US
press, really.
 
The Weather Channel says it's 33 F in Ann Arbor right now.
Our yard tends to run cold; this might be the end for a lot
of our garden, in particular the dahlias.

#17 of 123 by charcat on Thu Oct 2 02:08:13 2003:

It was snowing today about 7pm at Jackson, Michigan's red lobster.

#18 of 123 by tsty on Thu Oct 2 08:37:35 2003:

FREEZE WARNING IN EFFECT TONIGHT UNTIL 6:00AM EDT
Urgent - Weather Message National Weather Service Detroit/Pontiac MI 
1050 PM EDT Wed Oct 1 2003 

...Freeze Warning Expanded To Include Wayne County As Widespread Freeze 
Conditions Expected Across Southeast Lower Michigan.... 

.Temperatures Are Expected To Fall Below Freezing In Many Locations 
Overnight...As A Strong Cold Front Continues South Of Michigan Overnight. 
Locations Along And North Of Interstate 69 Will Likely Receive A Hard 
Freeze As Temperatures Fall Into The Mid To Upper 20s After Midnight. 
  
Further South...Temperatures Will Bottom Out Near 30 Degrees In Most 
Areas...But Will Remain A Bit Milder Within The City Of Detroit. While 
Lows In The City Of Detroit Will Remain Closer To 35...Lows In Western 
And Southern Wayne County Will Fall To Near 30. For This Reason...
Wayne County Is Added To The Freeze Warning. In Addition...
  
Locations Near The Relatively Mild Waters Of The Great Lakes Will 
Remain At Or Slightly Above Freezing. 


...Freeze Warning In Effect Tonight... 

Low Temperatures Will Bottom Out At Or Below Freezing Across Most Of 
Southeast Lower Michigan Overnight. 

Only The City Of Detroit...And Locations Adjacent To The Relatively 
Warm Waters Of The Great Lakes Will Remain Just Above Freezing. 
Even So...Patchy Frost May Still Occur. 
  





damn!

#19 of 123 by charcat on Thu Oct 2 08:43:37 2003:

there is lots of frost on my car at 4:45 a.m.  just west of chelsea, michigan

#20 of 123 by slynne on Thu Oct 2 13:36:41 2003:

Yeah, I had to dig out my ice scraper because of all the frost on my 
car. boo.

#21 of 123 by tod on Thu Oct 2 15:08:12 2003:

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#22 of 123 by furs on Thu Oct 2 15:09:14 2003:

I have frost on my two pumpkins.

#23 of 123 by tod on Thu Oct 2 15:32:20 2003:

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#24 of 123 by keesan on Thu Oct 2 15:41:03 2003:

Jim went out late two evenings ago to pick all the grapes and tomatoes - just
in time. He was sure it would not freeze last night due to the clouds.

#25 of 123 by remmers on Thu Oct 2 15:54:53 2003:

Thermometer read 29 degrees when I got up this morning.  Yuck.

#26 of 123 by keesan on Thu Oct 2 16:44:47 2003:

The average first frost in Ann Arbor is I think about Oct. 7.

#27 of 123 by krj on Thu Oct 2 17:30:43 2003:

Amazingly, our garden, in which nothing had been covered, shows no sign of 
frost damage.  Usually our garden runs colder than the official Ann Arbor
temperature, but the dahlias all look happy.

#28 of 123 by gelinas on Thu Oct 2 17:31:44 2003:

Yah!

#29 of 123 by jaklumen on Thu Oct 2 22:43:47 2003:

Interesting to read about chilly weather in your portion of the 
Midwest.  Over here, we haven't shaken summer just yet, or rather warm 
temperatures... not that long ago, we had a few 80-90 degree 
temperatures.  Still lots of sunshine.

#30 of 123 by gelinas on Thu Oct 2 22:46:12 2003:

Well, it's probably been a while since we saw 90-degree days.

#31 of 123 by asddsa on Thu Oct 2 23:20:11 2003:

re 30 Uhm, 90 degrees is 10 degrees below the boiling point or water. 
Temperatures on Earth have never gotten that high before.

#32 of 123 by gelinas on Thu Oct 2 23:23:13 2003:

We use the Farenheit scale here, asddsa.

#33 of 123 by dah on Fri Oct 3 01:03:21 2003:

No, we use Centigrade.

#34 of 123 by keesan on Fri Oct 3 01:20:16 2003:

Nothing froze in Jim's neighborhood including the highly frost sensitive
impatiens.  But it won't be much longer.

#35 of 123 by gull on Fri Oct 3 12:48:43 2003:

Re #29: A friend of mine who lives in Pullman has been complaining about
the warm temperatures.  He says he wants it to cool down so they have at
least *some* comfortable fall weather before winter hits.

#36 of 123 by tod on Fri Oct 3 15:38:12 2003:

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#37 of 123 by gelinas on Fri Oct 3 20:56:07 2003:

Well, I'd like to know what the winds on Lake Erie off Monroe were around noon
today.  I think they were above 20 knots.  Strong winds, with big waves,
weren't conducive to sailing, after all.  So we lowered the sail and motored
in.  We weren't sure we'd make it, though, because we making lots of leeway.
(The dagger board was up, to try to minimise rolling.)

As we got back to Ann Arbor, it started raining.

#38 of 123 by jaklumen on Sat Oct 4 00:13:39 2003:

you Canuckleheads can take off, eh?  Feelin' pissy because I took 
Fahrenheit as a given?

resp:35 I would expect it to be a little cooler in Pullman, though-- 
at least from the usual weather reports I look at from time to time.

#39 of 123 by dah on Sat Oct 4 00:20:02 2003:

We use Celcius here.

#40 of 123 by carson on Sat Oct 4 00:28:17 2003:

(my dad and sister prepared for rain on their trip.  they're taking the
train out to NYC, then going to Jersey to pick up a new car and drive
it home.)

#41 of 123 by ea on Sat Oct 4 04:20:14 2003:

It's been hovering between 45-55 here in Syracuse.  Still warm enough to 
be wearing shorts, although I'm pretty much the only one left on campus 
wearing shorts on a daily basis.

#42 of 123 by rcurl on Sat Oct 4 04:49:52 2003:

I was on the west coast, near Grand Haven, on Wednesday. There was a
strong onshore wind with high waves rolling in. Low clouds, some with rain
showers, were blowing in. It was spectacular.

#43 of 123 by charcat on Sat Oct 4 07:41:07 2003:

reply to #37, Hi Joe, according to the National Data Buoy Center there nearest
weather station to monroe is on south bass island, Ohio. (looks like it's near
cedar point) the reported that at noon on the 3rd the windspeed was 26kts,
gusting to 29kts out of the south. (I assume kts = knots) you can check out
their websight at http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.phtml?station=sbio1

#44 of 123 by tpryan on Sat Oct 4 13:56:07 2003:

        Farenhgt scale has three good points on it to judge temperatures,
100degrees=near body temperature, frigging hot for outside air, 
 32degress=water freezes
  0degress=salt water freezes.
On either scale -20degrees is equally frelling cold.

#45 of 123 by dah on Sat Oct 4 14:46:50 2003:

We use Celcius here, Jack.

#46 of 123 by gelinas on Sat Oct 4 15:42:25 2003:

Thanks, Steve. :)

#47 of 123 by asddsa on Sat Oct 4 15:57:16 2003:

K Joe.

#48 of 123 by gull on Sat Oct 4 21:32:12 2003:

Re #38: From my limited understanding of Washington geography, Pullman's 
climate is more like Michigan's, temperature-wise -- hotter than Seattle 
in the summer, much colder in the winter.  It's also quite dry.

Re #44: Technically, it's -40 that's equally cold on either scale. ;>

#49 of 123 by murph on Sun Oct 5 01:09:24 2003:

(#40: they're coming out here *just* for a car?  What kind of a car is it?!
Note that I'm assuming a MI origin of this trip...)

#50 of 123 by carson on Sun Oct 5 04:42:42 2003:

re #49:  (you're assuming correctly, and it's just a Honda CRX.  I think
         they were also going to do a little bit of sightseeing in NYC.)

         [there are some really nice things about the car, but I'm not at
         liberty to say until I actually see it.]

#51 of 123 by murph on Sun Oct 5 14:42:36 2003:

(well, I guess I have known other people who would travel cross-country for
a CRX.  and the train trip between Toledo and NYC has some nice (scenic)
parts, as long as you're capable of sleeping in a moving, somewhat noisy
environment...)

#52 of 123 by lynne on Mon Oct 6 02:13:43 2003:

You're using Celcius?  How does that scale to Celsius?  :)

#53 of 123 by tsty on Tue Oct 7 08:00:56 2003:

 .. a few degree-letters earlier, fo course <g>.

#54 of 123 by asddsa on Tue Oct 7 14:25:41 2003:

</g>

#55 of 123 by charcat on Thu Oct 9 06:03:13 2003:

absolutley a great day yesterday.

#56 of 123 by asddsa on Sat Oct 11 17:47:57 2003:

abso-lutely.

#57 of 123 by gelinas on Sat Oct 11 23:22:13 2003:

Today was nice, too.  The trees are changing, and the sunlight made them
visible.

#58 of 123 by scott on Sun Oct 12 00:03:12 2003:

It's suddenly fall, my neighborhood has leaves all over.  Beautiful day,
sunny, not hot.

#59 of 123 by gull on Mon Oct 13 00:56:14 2003:

Lovely today, too, contrary to what I'd expected based on the forecast.

#60 of 123 by krj on Mon Oct 13 02:00:39 2003:

Leslie and I drove out Huron River Drive to Dexter, which we try to 
do at least once each fall.  (Grex trip to the Dexter Cider Mill is 
this coming Saturday!)

#61 of 123 by gelinas on Mon Oct 13 03:21:20 2003:

I take Joy Road anymore; I don't have the patience to deal with drivers who
can't share the road with cyclists.

Went sailing today.  Good wind, bright sun, not cold at all.

#62 of 123 by lynne on Mon Oct 13 03:31:59 2003:

Driving rain nearly all day in the Boston area.  I drove up to Maine--
presumably the scenery was lovely; I couldn't see a damn thing except the
taillights in front of me.

#63 of 123 by mcnally on Mon Oct 13 07:18:35 2003:

  Sunny and cool in Ketchikan today.  There was too much wind to be safe
  out on the water solo so I took the dog and hiked up the hydroelectric
  project's access road up to Lower Silvis Lake. As the road climbs from
  George Inlet up to the lake it offers some unobstructed views to the
  southeast and I was surprised to see mountain peaks in that direction
  that are already covered in this season's snow -- we haven't seen any
  yet on the peak more directly over the town but the peaks around the
  back side of the island and across on the mainland are higher.. 
  Autumn is definitely here, and winter not far away.

#64 of 123 by krj on Wed Oct 15 16:46:15 2003:

I'd thought last night's wind would take all the leaves, but there are
still lots left.  Lansing is definitely a few days ahead of Ann Arbor
in losing leaves, though.

#65 of 123 by keesan on Wed Oct 15 18:44:09 2003:

The wind blew all the pawpaws off Jim's tree and there are about 20-30 tho
I had only spotted one cluster of about 5.  Got to go check my tree before
the squirrels have a feast.  We have been out wading through red and yellow
carpets.

#66 of 123 by janc on Wed Oct 15 19:13:09 2003:

You actually have paw-paws bearing fruit?  I was vaguely under the
impression that they didn't do that frequently.

#67 of 123 by keesan on Wed Oct 15 20:40:16 2003:

We hand pollinated between our trees (1.5 miles apart).  Got a good set, to
compensate for the squirrels eating most of the pears and the plums rotting.

It is nearly time to get apples off a parking lot tree.  We always go on the
windiest day last week of October when they are ripe but not all fallen. 
These are very late apples.  Should also check the local sour green ones
again.

#68 of 123 by mary on Wed Oct 15 22:06:05 2003:

Just last weekend we attended a picnic / potluck gathering on a friends
farm, near Manchester.  Besides heirloom squash and tomatoes and odd
variety cherry and apple trees they have a paw-paw orchard.  I'd never had
a paw-paw before - they are wonderful!  His trees were fairly loaded with
fruit. 

I asked why we don't see 'em at the market and his best guess is that they
don't travel very well.  They're delicate, evidently.  There must be
more to it as I suspect they'd be a big hit at Busch's.

#69 of 123 by goose on Wed Oct 15 22:36:18 2003:

What is a Paw-Paw?

#70 of 123 by tod on Wed Oct 15 23:19:18 2003:

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#71 of 123 by keesan on Thu Oct 16 00:54:47 2003:

The pawpaws bruise very easily and the bruised spots taste bad.  They are
tropical sorts of trees that supposedly were brought north by the native
americans, with shiny green unserrated leaves sort of like avocado, flowers
the color of rotting meat that are pollinated by carrion beetles (or
paintbrushes), and green fruits that can be as large as 3" long and 2" across.
We got some whoppers off Jim's tree this year, with 10 seeds each - big bround
flat shiny beanlike things.  A friend will plant some of them.

#72 of 123 by janc on Thu Oct 16 01:34:57 2003:

In woodlands around here paw-paws tend to exist mainly as small understory
trees.  They often go years without bearing fruit.  They are opportunistic
though.  If a larger tree falls, opening a hole in the canopy, the small
understory paw-paws will sprint for it.

I've never actually seen a fruit.  Raccoons and other creatures tend to
harvest them quickly.  They are supposed to be very sweet and custardy,
loved by some, hated by others.  They mostly get compared to bananas and
mangos, so I suspect I'd be in the "hate em" class.  As Cindi mentions they
are also delicate, which is why you won't be seeing them in grocery stores,
though the fact that some people apparantly  get stomach cramps from eating
them may contribute too.

There are actually a lot of yummy fruits in the world that you'll never see
because for various reasons they aren't commerically growable.  Mulberries
are one.  Serviceberries another.

#73 of 123 by mary on Thu Oct 16 01:44:25 2003:

I was told paw-paw seeds are toxic.

Sindi, do you like them?  If so, I'm kind of surprised
as they are probably the sweetest fruit I've ever eaten,
and I didn't think you did sweet.

The guy with the orchard said he's tried freezing them,
making jam, and a number of other ways to save the harvest,
but nothing really worked very well.  They probably are one
of the seemingly few foods which are only available locally in 
season.  Wow.  How retro.

#74 of 123 by gelinas on Thu Oct 16 02:08:40 2003:

Serviceberries are edible?  We just planted some at the Sailing Club.

#75 of 123 by keesan on Thu Oct 16 02:57:21 2003:

There are serviceberries (juneberries) planted all around town and campus as
ornamentals.  We have some planted but they don't taste as good - ours were
bred to be low bushes (different species) with large berries.  The large
parking structure on Miller near Ashley has a few trees, as does the farmer's
market and there is a tree near Zingerman's.  They fruit in July here.

We tried to grow persimmons.  You need male and female trees.  After ten years
both our trees flowered and are male.  The female grafts did not take.  They
are like candy.

I don't mind sweet fruits (except bananas need diluting with oatmeal).

Pawpaws turn bitter when frozen.  We just eat them all fresh.  Have not tried
drying them, probably that would also oxidize them and make them bitter.

We have jostaberries, white and red currants, gooseberries, clove currants
(yellow clove-smelling flowers, black fruits).

Juneberry seeds have cyanide so taste like almonds.

The two apple trees near the hospital are probably read to pick tomorrow. 
We used to pick on north campus.  City hall also has apples, as does Fox
Theater (red delicious).

#76 of 123 by gull on Thu Oct 16 13:32:19 2003:

I'm told that ripe pawpaws have a shelf life best measured in hours.

#77 of 123 by janc on Thu Oct 16 14:23:21 2003:

The service berries I've had were growing along trail sides in the rocky
mountains.  Those were excellent, though you gotta watch for bears.  I
suppose one has to allow for some sensory distortion resulting from the fact
that I was climbing a mountain trail with a 30 pound pack while eating them.
There also appear to be many different varieties.

Thimble berries grow locally (though are more common further north in
Michigan)  and are edible, but they are definately an acquired taste -
sort like a fuzzy red raspberry.

#78 of 123 by jep on Thu Oct 16 17:53:31 2003:

I had a couple of pawpaws at Jim and Sindi's house last year.  They 
were good and also different.

Thimbleberries are common in Houghton.  You can buy thimbleberry jam in 
the UP.  As a student I and my friends used to go for walks and find 
thimbleberries both in the woods and on bushes next to the sidewalks.  
I think they're very similar to raspberries, and had no trouble at all 
getting to like them.

#79 of 123 by keesan on Thu Oct 16 21:26:59 2003:

Anyone who wants to try a pawpaw stop by in the next ten days (or less).  We
got the ones from my tree today and shared them at the hospital and a store.

#80 of 123 by tsty on Fri Oct 17 07:10:29 2003:

i drove mom home a day ago along 6-mile sted the freeway. amaxing
colors, amazing trees, doing 45 in a 50 and the hook for  a new song./
  
from pontiac trail to 6-mi to beech is a pacifying ride, imnsho.

#81 of 123 by keesan on Fri Oct 17 14:47:13 2003:

Grapes have been ripe for a while.  Friends with a dairy farm and grapes in
the Kalamazoo area report that this was their best year ever for grapes. They
sell to Welch's.  Last year they brought us some of the product.  Today we
are going to pick a friend's grapes to make juice, on the way to visit another
friend with a pawpaw grove, taking along someone who wants to try making
pawpaw wine.  Jim says I can sit in the car while they pick if I get too
tired.  Apparently we had enough sun and rain at the right times.

Pawpaw comes from papaya/papaw which is a different fruit.

#82 of 123 by jaklumen on Fri Oct 17 21:08:40 2003:

Oh yes-- Concords must be ready by now.  Since my folks moved to a new 
house, they aren't next to neighbors that have them :(

#83 of 123 by murph on Thu Oct 23 15:46:47 2003:

Central New Jersey is a few weeks behind Ann Arbor.  I'm starting to get
depressed by how green everything is.  Too green!  Too warm!  Wah!  I'll be
getting back to Ann Arbor just in time for January and February.  That'll fix
me.

#84 of 123 by remmers on Thu Oct 23 17:28:25 2003:

TS's assertion to the contrary notwithstanding, February is actually
the cruelest month.

#85 of 123 by keesan on Tue Oct 28 15:59:47 2003:

But the sun has returned by then.  November is a lot cloudier.

#86 of 123 by remmers on Tue Oct 28 16:43:55 2003:

Sun shmun.  It's c-o-l-d  in February.

(By the way, TS said that April was the cruelest month.)

#87 of 123 by mcnally on Tue Oct 28 17:09:47 2003:

  Eliot or Taylor?

#88 of 123 by remmers on Tue Oct 28 18:27:42 2003:

Heh, I was wondering when somebody would pick up on that.
TS Eliot.

#89 of 123 by gull on Tue Oct 28 18:38:24 2003:

The record low temperature for Michigan was set in February.  February
9, 1934, to be exact, when a low of -51F was recorded in Vanderbilt.

#90 of 123 by rcurl on Tue Oct 28 19:42:08 2003:

Was that confirmed at other sites? Or was it a broken thermometer?

#91 of 123 by mcnally on Tue Oct 28 19:48:29 2003:

  (re #88:  for the record, it occurred to me with the first comment
  you posted but with continued use of just "TS" it started to look
  like you were fishing for a reply so I decided to oblige..)

#92 of 123 by gull on Tue Oct 28 21:21:43 2003:

Re #90: I don't know.  I found it in a list of official temperature records.

#93 of 123 by bhoward on Tue Oct 28 23:14:10 2003:

And then suddenly, spring breaks out all across Tokyo?

For several days, it's a wet, miserable sort of cold.  The next, it's
a lovely spring morning.

What is up with the weather this year, anyways?

#94 of 123 by charcat on Wed Oct 29 09:27:49 2003:

I just spent the last 45 minutes watching the northern lights. Very nice, lots
of red, it was getting intense when clouds rolled in :(

#95 of 123 by scott on Wed Oct 29 13:15:31 2003:

Dammit!  This rainy weather sucks... I want to see the northern lights!

#96 of 123 by other on Wed Oct 29 14:46:19 2003:

Me, too!  I've only seen them a few times, and only in pale green.

#97 of 123 by gregb on Mon Nov 24 16:17:36 2003:

Sunday's weather was great!  I love it when I can be outside without a 
coat.  And today we're getting snow flurries.  How Michigan.

#98 of 123 by willcome on Mon Nov 24 19:09:11 2003:

whore

#99 of 123 by naftee on Tue Nov 25 01:12:52 2003:

Fuck you, willcome.

#100 of 123 by willcome on Thu Nov 27 07:26:31 2003:

whore

#101 of 123 by krj on Wed Dec 3 17:55:06 2003:

Looks like Ann Arbor's first significant snowfall is forecast for 
Thursday night and Friday; three to five inches, perhaps, from a storm 
whose main track is predicted to go through Ohio.

#102 of 123 by willcome on Wed Dec 3 19:43:16 2003:

Hey, this item uses language!  Link it the fuck up, rcurl.

#103 of 123 by rcurl on Wed Dec 3 20:27:26 2003:

(what a jerk....)

#104 of 123 by willcome on Wed Dec 3 22:06:47 2003:

I'm serious.

#105 of 123 by jep on Thu Dec 4 16:26:05 2003:

Weather site wunderground.com is predicting up to an inch of 
accumulation for Friday.  I haven't heard the 3-5" prediction.

My brother is bringing his family up from Tennessee at the end of 
December.  Three of them grew up in Arkansas and have never seen snow. 
They're hoping for a repeat of what we got at Christmas last year.

#106 of 123 by micklpkl on Thu Dec 4 17:07:11 2003:

Strange, I would've thought that both Arkansas and Tennessee experience snow
for time to time.

Nothing major to report in Austin, Texas --- just spectacular late-autumn
weather, as usual. The trees are finally showing some colour, and we will
probably get our first freeze this weekend, about one week later than average.

#107 of 123 by mynxcat on Thu Dec 4 17:53:51 2003:

I wish I were in TX right now :(

#108 of 123 by bhoward on Thu Dec 4 21:50:14 2003:

Weather in Tokyo is definitely veering more towards the crisp
side, but dancing just short of a first freeze of the season.

Tomorrow morning I start putting up the Christmas lights I
brought back from the states last week.  Tee hee, wait until
the neighbors see what I have cooking for this years show!

#109 of 123 by jiffer on Fri Dec 5 00:19:21 2003:

Augusta, GA got a huge dump of melted snow.... and it is cold.  Where is my
coat?

#110 of 123 by tod on Fri Dec 5 00:34:10 2003:

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#111 of 123 by gelinas on Fri Dec 5 03:52:44 2003:

Sounds windy, tod. :)

#112 of 123 by tod on Sat Dec 6 01:07:34 2003:

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#113 of 123 by krj on Sat Dec 6 06:23:41 2003:

The snow was a complete fizzle in Ann Arbor, nothing but non-sticking
flurries.

#114 of 123 by gregb on Mon Dec 8 17:37:56 2003:

I'm perfectly happy that we don't have snow yet.  Only thing that 
bothers me is when we finally do get a real snowfall, it'll probably be 
a biggy.

Re. 108:  Bruce, how did you end up in Japan and how do you like it?

#115 of 123 by mynxcat on Mon Dec 8 18:29:39 2003:

To get the answer to that question, come to the International 
conference

j intl

#116 of 123 by gregb on Mon Dec 8 18:56:44 2003:

'Tnaks

#117 of 123 by bhoward on Mon Dec 8 23:51:38 2003:

I walk or take a short bus ride along the Tokyo side of the Tama river
every morning on my way to the train station.  Today, looking across
the water towards Kawasaki-shi, I saw the most beautifully clear view
of Mount Fuji I've seen in nearly a year.

Not coincidentally, today was also the first frost of the year.
Cold weather and views of Fuji tend to go hand-in-hand.

#118 of 123 by gull on Tue Dec 9 01:16:49 2003:

Am I correct in thinking that Fuji is a dormant volcano?

#119 of 123 by gelinas on Tue Dec 9 01:38:38 2003:

The most recent eruption was 1707-08.  See: 

        http://volcano.und.nodak.edu/vwdocs/volc_images/img_fuji.html

#120 of 123 by bhoward on Tue Dec 9 01:44:06 2003:

Yes...though seismic activity has increased of late and it is
due for another eruption according to its historical cycle of 
erupting every 300-500 years.

#121 of 123 by bhoward on Tue Dec 9 01:44:39 2003:

(Re#119 slipped in)

#122 of 123 by carson on Tue Dec 9 19:12:16 2003:

(I wish I were in Marquette.)

#123 of 123 by dcat on Wed Dec 10 17:51:06 2003:

in pittsburgh, we ended up with 4-6 inches late last week, and it's all gone.

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