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Item 55: hacking

Entered by gizmoguy on Fri Oct 3 15:40:10 2003:

HACKING
58 responses total.
#1 of 58 by gizmoguy on Fri Oct 3 15:41:14 2003:

talk and ask about hacking

#2 of 58 by jp2 on Fri Oct 3 15:49:37 2003:

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#3 of 58 by remmers on Fri Oct 3 15:59:39 2003:

From Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913):

Hack \Hack\, v. i.
   To ride or drive as one does with a hack horse; to ride at an
   ordinary pace, or over the roads, as distinguished from
   riding across country or in military fashion.

#4 of 58 by cmcgee on Fri Oct 3 16:16:46 2003:

I thought hacking was driving a taxi.

#5 of 58 by albaugh on Fri Oct 3 17:19:29 2003:

Start with the right kind of saw...

#6 of 58 by scott on Fri Oct 3 18:00:50 2003:

Hacking... yeah, that brings back last night's dream.  I was fighting the
devil again, and he had his hands my throat, so I kept hacking and hacking
at him with the kitchen knife she gave me on our anniversary... oh shit, it
was one of *those* dreams again.  Good thing the ground isn't too frozen for
digging yet.

#7 of 58 by alexnn on Fri Oct 3 20:12:54 2003:

What are you say?

#8 of 58 by gelinas on Fri Oct 3 21:18:02 2003:

My front yard could use some hacking; the prairie didn't work out quite the
way I had hoped.

#9 of 58 by asddsa on Sat Oct 4 16:08:49 2003:

gismoguy

#10 of 58 by sj2 on Sun Oct 5 10:14:39 2003:

I will assume you mean hacking as in computer hacking. Hacking in the 
computer world also has lots of meanings.

Traditionally it's meant, pouring over source code and making various 
changes to it in order to see what you can make it do - improving, 
finding bugs, bringing it to its knees etc. Hence the term "hacked the 
code".

Breaking into other computers is probably better labelled as cracking 
and not hacking. So you may want to start a thread called "cracking".

#11 of 58 by slash on Sun Oct 5 15:13:18 2003:

Man, I've been really sick as of late, all I've done for the past couple
nights is hack up a ton of crud, lemmie tell ya, it was GROSS.

#12 of 58 by jep on Fri Oct 10 19:26:03 2003:

I've been reading comments from people for 15 years at least, objecting 
that "hacking" isn't something done by teenagers to break into 
computers.  About a day or two later, I subscribed to the idea that 
words mean what they mean, not what a few specialists wish they mean.  
Hacknig is what people think it is.  Time for the experimental coders 
to come up with a new label for themselves.

#13 of 58 by dolgr on Fri Oct 10 19:27:36 2003:

I guess "programmer" is out of the question, hey?

#14 of 58 by murph on Sat Oct 11 14:45:22 2003:

Can't agree with #12.  There are at least a few ways to define a word: what
the people who invented it meant, what current experts in the field use it
to mean, and what it is people mean when they say it.

Generally, when people use a word to mean something other than what experts
or the people who originated it meant, it's considered to be either "slang"
or "wrong".

When the Washington Post starts discussing, "Saddam's 1337 forces", then we
can maybe consider that usage makes something right.  Meanwhile, using
"hacker" as a criminal slur will continue to be incorrect, oeven if
unfortunately widespread.

#15 of 58 by slynne on Sat Oct 11 14:48:44 2003:

Not according to the American Heritage Dictionary...

hacker1  
SYLLABICATION: hack er 
PRONUNCIATION: AUDIO: hkr     KEY  
NOUN: Informal 1. One who is proficient at using or programming a 
computer; a computer buff. 
2. One who uses programming skills to gain illegal access to a computer 
network or file. 
3. One who enthusiastically pursues a game or sport: a weekend tennis 
hacker.  
ETYMOLOGY: Perhaps from hacker, amateurish or inept golfer or tennis 
player (possibly from hack1), or perhaps from hack, practical joke, 
clever scheme (from dialectal hack, to embarrass, confuse, play a trick 
on).

#16 of 58 by asddsa on Sat Oct 11 17:52:44 2003:

You people have no life.

#17 of 58 by tod on Sat Oct 11 19:20:09 2003:

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#18 of 58 by slynne on Sat Oct 11 22:25:40 2003:

Please, I dont need YOU to tell me I have no life ;)

#19 of 58 by murph on Sat Oct 11 23:39:00 2003:

Obviously.  If I had a life, would I be grexxing?

#20 of 58 by slynne on Sun Oct 12 01:27:36 2003:

Hello. It is Saturday night and I am sitting at home alone with my 
puppies listening to NPR while I work on my computer and occasionally 
check in on grex. Yup. no life ;)

#21 of 58 by dah on Sun Oct 12 02:00:10 2003:

Me too, except my animal is a SPIDER which I saw crawl into my sheet over
there and I'm vaguely worried it'll, you know, bite me and cause necrosis and
stuff.  I'm afraid to go to sleep.

#22 of 58 by slynne on Sun Oct 12 02:18:58 2003:

I have a cat who eats the spiders for me.

#23 of 58 by tod on Sun Oct 12 16:27:54 2003:

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#24 of 58 by asddsa on Thu Oct 16 22:46:16 2003:

A Romanian delicacy.

#25 of 58 by daffid on Fri Oct 17 23:51:48 2003:

ehh bullshit no comment

#26 of 58 by asddsa on Sat Oct 18 04:42:20 2003:

DaviD?

#27 of 58 by daffid on Mon Oct 20 16:29:15 2003:

what areu talking about ? cats ??

#28 of 58 by ant on Fri Nov 7 10:16:08 2003:

*singing* hack you in the morning...hack you in the evening...hack you at
suppertime.

#29 of 58 by rehmj02 on Tue Nov 11 23:04:18 2003:

I suppose hacking is going at something till you get it, like hacking at
something with an axe, eventually you'll cut through it, same as with a
server, you keep biting into it and eventually it'll waine.

#30 of 58 by willcome on Wed Nov 12 20:06:09 2003:

Like your poor braine.

#31 of 58 by ctr on Fri Nov 21 03:00:22 2003:

hi i just got this grex thing and decided to learn some things about hacking
and cracking i could use any beggining info. im tryin to use nbtstat and
things like that on command prompt....i could really use some help thanx
u can email me at rightforriley@hotmail.com

done
finish
stop
quit
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#32 of 58 by gelinas on Fri Nov 21 03:06:02 2003:

A simple bit of advice: "Not on grex."

#33 of 58 by jep on Fri Nov 21 03:53:40 2003:

The real hacking tricks are in a private area for members who have 
paid dues for at least 1 year.  That's the upper level dues, of 
course.  There's also a $5 membership that doesn't convey any 
privileges.  You know, for tax purposes.

To keep out the wannabees, we don't advertise the upper level dues, 
but you seem like an intelligent and discreet guy.  We can trust him, 
can't we, folks?  For the coolest tools you could ever imagine, Paypal 
a thousand to our treasurer (treasure@grex.org) and he'll get you set 
up.  But don't tell anyone; once a secret is out in public, it's not 
much good to anyone any more.

I almost forgot the special; send in half a grand and you can be a 
junior member.  You can see most of the good stuff, you're just not 
allowed to use it.  (Kevin M. shouldn't have... and you're not smart 
enough to get around it, either.)

It's great to finally meet another like you!  We get awfully tired of 
the dudes looking for hot chicks.  *First* you get to elite level.  
Then ask about the babes and we'll see what we can do, but no 
promises, okay?

#34 of 58 by twenex on Fri Nov 21 16:58:42 2003:

ROTFLMAO

#35 of 58 by cmcgee on Fri Nov 21 21:42:53 2003:

Jep, you WEREN"T supposed to post that.

#36 of 58 by willcome on Sat Nov 22 01:40:32 2003:

(yeah.  it wasn't funny.)

#37 of 58 by bru on Sat Nov 22 16:22:34 2003:

Now the secret is out...

#38 of 58 by naftee on Sat Nov 22 20:29:56 2003:

And I thought jep actually had stuff to do with his time.

#39 of 58 by jep on Sat Nov 22 21:32:00 2003:

re resp:35: I'm not?  I thought I was only supposed to keep the root 
password, 12Grex22@B, secret.

Oh, I know what you mean... but I didn't tell him about... you know... 
the Project.

re resp:38: It's my time.  I use it how I want.

#40 of 58 by bru on Sun Nov 23 04:09:42 2003:

If you ahd, Staff would have made sure you were strung up.

#41 of 58 by cmcgee on Sun Nov 23 16:02:41 2003:

Is the Project our secret mission that we're not supposed to talk about?  with
the first two rules being not to talk about the secret mission?

#42 of 58 by twenex on Sun Nov 23 16:14:31 2003:

No, that's the other Project. *THIS* one is the one you're not supposed to
talk about, on pain of horrifying and immediate d

#43 of 58 by other on Sun Nov 23 16:50:19 2003:

Oh, well.  He was fun while he lasted.

#44 of 58 by jep on Sun Nov 23 17:15:15 2003:

re resp:43: Criminy!  I can't believe you'd mention that, even to 
someone as trustworthy as ctr!  How are we going to get the CIA to 
believe we can infiltrate al'Qaeda when even non-Project members can 
read about the secrets?

Marcus and Stallman are never going to invite you to Roswell now.

#45 of 58 by willcome on Thu Nov 27 07:56:26 2003:

whore.

#46 of 58 by vipla on Sat Dec 6 23:35:24 2003:

Helo.Do you know some good password cracker?

#47 of 58 by twenex on Sun Dec 7 00:22:44 2003:

"Where do good passwords live"?

"I dunno, where do good passwords live?"

"En Crypti, ON."

#48 of 58 by remmers on Sun Dec 7 17:35:05 2003:

"Password cracker" could refer to a security guy in the Michigan Militia.

#49 of 58 by other on Mon Dec 8 16:18:39 2003:

Or a really dry baked food, favored as a medium of exchange between 
perimeter guards.

#50 of 58 by tod on Mon Dec 8 21:05:34 2003:

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#51 of 58 by vnirwani on Tue Dec 9 04:47:48 2003:

hi friends
i wann to learn about hacking?
so is there any one to teach me . i can pay their fees

#52 of 58 by other on Tue Dec 9 05:35:01 2003:

I charge 3.5 kroner per half hour.

#53 of 58 by bhoward on Tue Dec 9 07:31:07 2003:

I hear there are a lot of cab companies in NYC.  Why don't you try there?

#54 of 58 by scott on Tue Dec 9 14:03:05 2003:

Re 52:  fifty cents?  That's quite cheap...

#55 of 58 by other on Wed Dec 10 00:33:57 2003:

Shh!!

#56 of 58 by jmsaul on Wed Dec 10 01:15:13 2003:

Re #51:  With a machete, right?

#57 of 58 by bhoward on Wed Dec 10 01:40:56 2003:

Might be more enjoyable to learn with machetes.  I hack with
that sort of stuff playing all the time.

#58 of 58 by kotr on Fri Dec 19 20:14:08 2003:

Hacking, in my opinion, is finding out new stuff about a computer/network.
Its something that takes a LOT of time, and a LOT of energy to get to be even
a novice at it. Yes it is possible, but its discouraging. You really need to
know a LOT about computers to begin with. Of course, Script kiddies would beg
to differ, but dont listen to them ;)

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