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Item 207: Random Thoughts II

Entered by eprom on Thu Dec 4 20:19:41 2003:

 
some random thoughts....
34 responses total.

#1 of 34 by eprom on Thu Dec 4 20:20:00 2003:

I was checking on the status of some stuff I bought on the internet. Now-a-days
 they give you a FedEx tracking number and you can see where your order is at.
The last known where-abouts of my package was:

departed the Rialto, Ca sorting facility at 1:48PM 3Dec2003. 

I think it'd be cool if you could track your package down to the exact degree
hour and minute. maybe even the avg. velocity and elevation.




#2 of 34 by eprom on Thu Dec 4 20:32:04 2003:

Someone should make a nationwide Chinese fastfood franchise, where you
could order your food in a drive-thru. 

A Turkish/Greek fastfood place would be a good idea too....



#3 of 34 by mcnally on Thu Dec 4 21:10:26 2003:

  There are already quite a lot of Greek fast food joints, mostly 
  specializing in gyros.  I can't think of any that are nationally
  franchised.


#4 of 34 by tod on Thu Dec 4 21:42:33 2003:

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#5 of 34 by scott on Thu Dec 4 22:47:28 2003:

Somebody did try to create a chain of Chinese fast food restaurants a few
years back, but it failed.  Too many dishes which were also rather complicated
compared to burgers.  Actually there is some kind of Chinese thing in the
Michigan Union food court, but I haven't wanted to try it.  


#6 of 34 by gull on Thu Dec 4 23:44:54 2003:

I'm not sure a Chinese chain is necessary.  Even without chains every town
of any size seems to end up with at least one Chinese restaurant.


#7 of 34 by mcnally on Fri Dec 5 00:27:55 2003:

 re #6:  yeah, but some small town Chinese restaurants are pretty scary..
 (but then so are quite a few big city ones, I guess.)

 On a related note:  

 A couple of years ago the Thai government put money into developing a
 chain of Thai-food styled fast-food restaurants to be launched in the U.S.
 and Europe.  I'm pretty sure the name of the chain was "Elephant Jump"
 but I never came across one.  Has anyone ever seen an Elephant Jump? 
 (I know, I know..  Not with those knees..)

 ( apparently I wasn't imagining Elephant Jump, though I've still never
   seen one..)

  http://www.springwise.com/newbusinessideas/2002/11/tabletop_tourist_board
.html


#8 of 34 by tod on Fri Dec 5 00:40:26 2003:

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#9 of 34 by jmsaul on Fri Dec 5 03:06:07 2003:

There are chains of Chinese fast food restaurants (Manchu Wok), but they're
not good.  I thought it was pretty funny when the one in Briarwood left the
franchise.  What did they rename it?  Ming Wok.  Probably only funny if you've
watched enough Hong Kong historical martial arts movies and get the
background.


#10 of 34 by bhoward on Fri Dec 5 03:42:17 2003:

Is that anything like a Ming vase?


#11 of 34 by gelinas on Fri Dec 5 04:49:45 2003:

I'd always thought the Ming Dynasty was the Mongols.  I just learned I've been
wrong: the Mongols formed the Yuan Dynasty, which was replaced by the Ming
Dynasty.


#12 of 34 by gull on Fri Dec 5 14:39:34 2003:

Re resp:7: And in spite of all your experience with fast food chains,
you would expect chain Chinese restaurants to be *less* scary? ;>


#13 of 34 by dcat on Fri Dec 5 16:43:11 2003:

I forget what it's called (maybe Manchu Wok), but there's a Chinese fast food
"restaurant" in the Ohio Turnpike rest area in Amherst (a few miles west of
the 80/90 split), a couple bays over from Popeye's. . . .


#14 of 34 by sj2 on Fri Dec 5 17:01:24 2003:

Do British men still carry an umbrella while walking?


#15 of 34 by flem on Fri Dec 5 17:30:48 2003:

I think Panda House is a chain.  I've seen a few of them in Michigan and
one in Florida.  


#16 of 34 by mynxcat on Fri Dec 5 17:43:59 2003:

Re 14> And do they still wear the bowler hat?


#17 of 34 by albaugh on Fri Dec 5 18:00:45 2003:

There used to be a "Chinese fast food" restaurant in downtown Plymouth called
Dynersty.  I had heard that the first one had been in Ann Arbor.  I always
found it a convenient and inexpensive option when going for "take away" (as
the Brits say).  However, for some reason which I never heard, they closed
down a year ago or so.


#18 of 34 by remmers on Fri Dec 5 18:34:00 2003:

Atlanta or Atlantis -- the choice is yours!


#19 of 34 by tod on Sat Dec 6 01:14:17 2003:

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#20 of 34 by jmsaul on Sun Dec 7 01:29:54 2003:

Re #11:  Which was in turn overthrown by the Manchus, whose dynasty was called
         the Ching.  

Re #10:  Less valuable, I think.


#21 of 34 by sno on Sun Dec 7 03:37:59 2003:

It sucks to be "not young" and wanting to be in IT.  The only recourse is 
to be very lucky to find someone accepting the age condition, or start your 
own business.  I've been in "my own business."  It's not that great either.



#22 of 34 by jmsaul on Sun Dec 7 15:58:12 2003:

What are you looking for in IT?


#23 of 34 by bhoward on Mon Dec 8 00:36:22 2003:

Stephen, you have found age to be an explicit factor preventing or limiting
your attempts to move into IT work?


#24 of 34 by jmsaul on Mon Dec 8 01:52:21 2003:

If they make it explicit, he can sue their butts off, so it probably isn't.


#25 of 34 by bhoward on Mon Dec 8 02:09:20 2003:

My use of "explicitly" was sloppy.  

What I'm trying to get at is that even if a potential employer doesn't
specifically make age an issue which as you point out would open them
to lawsuits, sno might still feel somehow that age was a factor.

If he does or strongly suspects it was, I'm curious what gave that
impression?

In the current market, I would expect cost (in terms of expected salary)
and skill set would be the main factors.  There are lot of IT workers
looking for work or switching career tracks right now.


#26 of 34 by gull on Mon Dec 8 16:54:54 2003:

From everything I've heard on the subject, age discrimination is rampant
in IT hiring.  Then the companies complain they're having trouble
finding enough qualified workers and get the government to issue more
H1B visas.


#27 of 34 by other on Mon Dec 8 18:53:53 2003:

That's only because with age comes the experience to know how to 
demand a fair wage.


#28 of 34 by gull on Mon Dec 8 21:07:58 2003:

Heh.


#29 of 34 by sno on Wed Dec 10 16:06:43 2003:

Database development work is my primary desire.  Programming is second
on this list.  Web Development third.  Fourth would be network 
administration.

I can't even get an interview.  They see less than 3 years "on the job",
observe I have had a 25 year career doing something else, and figure
I'm a wannabe.

I guess 20 years on Unix/Windows development is not enough if you were
not doing it for pay or can carry a paper around saying you passed school.  
I continue to hope to find an opening where someone already on the inside 
can speak up for me.

Enough whining.  I'll figure something out.



#30 of 34 by gull on Wed Dec 10 18:49:17 2003:

Your problem is going to be getting past the secretaries that throw out
resumes that don't match a strict reading of the qualifications.  I was
once told I couldn't be considered for a position because I was a few
months short of their three-year experience requirement, even though I
had related non-paid experience and other qualifications.


#31 of 34 by jmsaul on Thu Dec 11 01:07:56 2003:

In this market, they're able to keep standards like that since they're going
to get a lot of overqualified applicants for anything they post.  It isn't
unusual to get experienced programmers or sysadmins applying for positions
doing desktop support right now.  That'll change, but not right away.


#32 of 34 by gull on Fri Dec 12 15:21:43 2003:

If you want to work in IT, your best career move right now might be to
move to India. :P


#33 of 34 by sholmes on Fri Dec 12 16:27:12 2003:

heh I am not sure , but pretty soon it may start to move out of India to
countries like Phillipines .. better be there ahead of others :)


#34 of 34 by tpryan on Fri Dec 12 23:01:33 2003:

        Before Y2K, IT employers had not qualms about not having
a degree, but experience.  Now, you need the degree.  Can that be
defacto age discrimination?  In that an older worker did not have
to complete college (or IT classes) to be hired by the likes of
Ford.


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