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Item 160: Spammed by your own router!

Entered by scott on Fri Nov 7 16:29:25 2003:

We knew it would come to this...

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/69/33858.html

Apparently Belkin's wireless routers have a "feature" where every 8 hours a
randomly-chosen is redirected to Belkin's website, to a page which advertises
Belkin's parental control system.

"In response criticism, a Belkin product manager came forward this week to
confirm the behaviour was designed into the products as a way to make it
easier for consumers to sign up to a free trial of its parental control
software. Belkin's Eric Deming is keen to allay concerns about the technique
which have produced sharp criticism of the company on the
news.admin.net-abuse.email newsgroup. "
23 responses total.

#1 of 23 by remmers on Fri Nov 7 17:06:18 2003:

Yuck.  Hope LinkSys doesn't do this.


#2 of 23 by gull on Fri Nov 7 19:37:14 2003:

Bleh.  I've never been impressed with Belkin's hardware, but now I'm
unimpressed with their marketing department as well.


#3 of 23 by mcnally on Fri Nov 7 19:53:05 2003:

  It's mind-boggling to me that anyone could have thought that this
  was a good idea, let alone enough people to design it, code it,
  test it, and manage the whole process..


#4 of 23 by gull on Fri Nov 7 20:57:30 2003:

Really, you only have to have a manager be convinced it's a good idea. 
After that, everyone else will design, code, and test it because they'll
be fired if they don't.


#5 of 23 by mcnally on Fri Nov 7 21:50:59 2003:

  In my opinion you have to have a really dysfunctional organization
  for one manager to be able to insist on something like this against
  the recommendations of their engineering, q/a, and support staff.
  I'm not saying that it can't happen, but it's a little more complicated
  than "you only have to have a manager convinced."  You need to have
  someone with a huge amount of control and they have to be so convinced
  that they cling to that conviction against the recommendations of
  everyone around them, or things have to be so screwed up that their
  underlings are incapable of giving them good advice.


#6 of 23 by willcome on Fri Nov 7 23:09:09 2003:

Oh.  So, you were just as wrong as gull.  Glad to know you, good-bye.  
(Put on twit-list)


#7 of 23 by aruba on Sat Nov 8 03:46:44 2003:

Sonds like a pretty simple system to me.  Probably stuck in there at the
last minute.


#8 of 23 by scott on Sat Nov 8 04:32:48 2003:

I don't have any Belkin hardware... something always seemed creepy about that
company.


#9 of 23 by gull on Sat Nov 8 06:23:15 2003:

Their cables are okay, but I've never been impressed with their electronics. 
I have a Belkin KVM switch at work that's awfully flakey.


#10 of 23 by pvn on Sat Nov 8 09:21:28 2003:

Like the mouse goes wawa if you switch between different OS on the 
same hardware if one of them is Micro$oft?


#11 of 23 by pvn on Sat Nov 8 09:22:59 2003:

Come to think of it this happens on identical hardware using different
OS from Micro$oft - so much for 'interoperability'...


#12 of 23 by remmers on Sat Nov 8 14:41:58 2003:

(It's off-topic, but for what it's worth, I have Belkin KVM switches
both at home and at work, and they're quite reliable.  No mouse problems.
At home I switch between three OS's -- Linux, WinXP, and OpenBSD -- and
at work between Linux and WinXP.)


#13 of 23 by tod on Sat Nov 8 16:22:01 2003:

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#14 of 23 by sno on Mon Nov 10 01:27:57 2003:

#5 sounds like where I work.  It's why I'm getting out as soon as 
I can find someone to give me a chance elsewhere.



#15 of 23 by gull on Mon Nov 10 20:44:53 2003:

I have a Belkin KVM switch at work...an Omni View SE.  Often after switching
consoles the mouse doesn't work.  Sometimes the switch just locks up
entirely.  It also requires an external power brick, meaning yet one more
thing to plug in.

I also have a Cybex SwitchView that works great and has never given any
mouse problems.  It doesn't need external power, either.


#16 of 23 by tod on Mon Nov 10 22:31:17 2003:

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#17 of 23 by remmers on Tue Nov 11 17:22:06 2003:

Hm.  I shall keep Cybex in mind for my future KVM needs.


#18 of 23 by gull on Tue Nov 11 20:48:10 2003:

In our server rack we also have a rack-mount Apex switch that's very, 
very nice.  But it's also very, very expensive. ;>  The Cybex is a 
desktop piece.


#19 of 23 by tod on Tue Nov 11 21:38:22 2003:

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#20 of 23 by other on Wed Nov 12 00:22:53 2003:

In a follow-up, slashdot reports that Belkin posted a firmware 
update which fixes the broken functionality, and though it was 
originally posted with a tart note about the advert not being spam, 
the accomapnying message has since been toned down.


#21 of 23 by pvn on Fri Nov 14 08:21:34 2003:

Really.  Got a URL?


#22 of 23 by willcome on Thu Nov 27 09:32:05 2003:

DO I EVER:  http://www.buddys-pics.com/pictures9/young-whore.jpg


#23 of 23 by pvn on Sun Dec 21 08:28:25 2003:

I think I've met your mother before.


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