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Item 15: The MSN UK Pornography Item.

Entered by twenex on Wed Sep 24 15:34:25 2003:

The Microsoft Network UK has now closed all its chatrooms, to avoid child
pornography and meetings with paedophiles, etc.

Sensible Precaution or mad, Fascist nanny-State censorship?
26 responses total.

#1 of 26 by twenex on Wed Sep 24 15:53:15 2003:

Lito news stories on the above can be found at the following URLs:

(The above line should say "Links to". lag.)

http://media.guardian.co.uk/newmedia/story/0,7496,1048627,00.html - The
Guardian, left-wing UK newspaper.

http://news.independent.co.uk/digital/news/story.jsp?story=446426 - The
Independent, centrist UK newspaper.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3133192.stm - The BBC. You don't know
who the BBC is? ;-P

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-828868,00.html - The Times (of
London) - right-wing.

PS. For the uniniated, leftwing=Democrats=Labour,
rightwing=Republicans=Tories/Conservatives, centrist=LibDems (no major US
equivalent).

PPS. I tried to find some American links to this story. I couldn't find any.


#2 of 26 by flem on Wed Sep 24 17:30:12 2003:

I believe slashdot has a story on this. 


#3 of 26 by twenex on Wed Sep 24 17:43:40 2003:

Thanks for that: The link to the Slashdot story itself is:
http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/03/09/24/062218.shtml?tid=109&tid=126&tid=187&t
id=
95.


#4 of 26 by twenex on Wed Sep 24 17:44:43 2003:

Corrigendum: It's not just MSN UK; according to Slashdot, MSN is shutting down
*all* its unmonitored chatrooms worldwide.


#5 of 26 by anderyn on Wed Sep 24 18:33:24 2003:

That's what I heard on the radio this am too. 


#6 of 26 by dah on Wed Sep 24 19:31:54 2003:

No, it's not shutting down the ones you pay for, but I still don't understand
what the big deal is.  What's the big deal.


#7 of 26 by krokus on Wed Sep 24 21:15:02 2003:

What are they defining as a monitored chat room?  This really is
stupid, especially since there are plenty of other places to chat.


#8 of 26 by flem on Wed Sep 24 21:16:33 2003:

Not much of a big deal.  Microsoft is doing its embrace and extend thing
again, in the instant messenger market, again.  Probably won't work.  


#9 of 26 by butiki on Thu Sep 25 06:55:01 2003:

if i remember right (from watching some news items about it), Microsoft wants
to somehow control its liability on the issue. I.e., they keep the paid areas
open, so if someone tries to pull a pedo stunt they have the authority to get
that user's name, etc. in other words, they want to remove the pedophiles'
anonymity. however, i think that even if they shut out peodphiles from their
service in this manner, the pedophiles will still have other avenues.


#10 of 26 by twenex on Thu Sep 25 11:14:57 2003:

Indeed, and the spin I got on it from the MSN UK repon BBC News yesterday
morning was that they just did it to protect children, totally altruistic.
Forgive me if I don't buy that line, considering who it's coming from.


#11 of 26 by scott on Thu Sep 25 12:30:29 2003:

The view over on The Register is that it's part of a plan to seize control
of instant messaging and such.


#12 of 26 by sj2 on Thu Sep 25 12:34:23 2003:

I don't think this has anything to do with their concern for children. 
The reason has to be commercial. Either they wanted to close them 
because they weren't making money on them or something similar.

Just think if google shut down google groups??? *Shudder*!!



#13 of 26 by happyboy on Thu Sep 25 19:15:21 2003:

oh god!  what would we all do then?!


GO FOR A BRISK WALK?


#14 of 26 by asddsa on Thu Sep 25 19:47:27 2003:

SMACK YOURSELF 


#15 of 26 by happyboy on Thu Sep 25 20:32:57 2003:

DOES BEATING OFF COUNT?


#16 of 26 by asddsa on Thu Sep 25 20:41:38 2003:

BEATING OFF CUNT


#17 of 26 by vipla on Thu Sep 25 23:24:32 2003:

Helo!Do you now how do I changes web pages?


#18 of 26 by dah on Fri Sep 26 00:50:16 2003:

Beat off, cunt.


#19 of 26 by gull on Fri Sep 26 02:39:36 2003:

I think they did it for monetary reasons.  MSN is a money-losing 
enterprise for Microsoft, and it hasn't succeeded in its original goal 
of killing AOL.  I can't see how this will really protect children -- 
there's no shortage of chatrooms other places, and most of them are less 
well monitored than MSN's.


#20 of 26 by slash on Mon Oct 6 02:02:26 2003:

Everyone has to remeber that Microsoft is a control freak company
all they want to do is create a large monopoly, and dominate the computer
industry.  They feel that they need to force people to pay, just so they can
talk to other people.  What they don't realize, is that as long as people are
meeting people online, there are gonna be scary Pedophiles.  And why do people
Care about the MSN network, I mean, we should jsut skip it all together and
go back to using the grex "party". :-P nobody is using it anymore!!!


#21 of 26 by mdw on Mon Oct 6 05:21:34 2003:

Microsoft has lawyers.  What a surprise.  I don't think this means
anything past that.


#22 of 26 by reggae on Sun Nov 23 22:25:46 2003:

What the hell is this account do?


#23 of 26 by naftee on Mon Nov 24 01:22:38 2003:

It JIVES


#24 of 26 by willcome on Thu Nov 27 07:28:48 2003:

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#26 of 26 by furs on Sat Nov 29 14:35:55 2003:

We all scream for ice cream!


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