Busch's grocery no longer sells 16 or 20 ounce bottles of soda pop. They said it was the distributor's choice. They started selling 24 ounce Pepsi's this summer. I switched to Coke. Now Coke has followed suit. The next lowest size in 12 ounces in cans--but not bottles. Does Kroger's or any other grocery store sell 16 ounce bottles? Is this just local to the Arbor/Ypsi area or statewide?58 responses total.
I have noticed that some distributers are carrying 8oz cans. I like that because that is about as much pop as I will drink these days. I found those at Target. 24oz is just too much. Sheesh.
I complained to kroger when they made the switch several months ago. It is the distributors decision. werent the orgiginal bottles 12 ozs?
I figured the 8 oz. cans were a Halloween thing.
They are. And it's annoying that the'y more expensive than the bigger size. I like less pop since I am trying to cut the habit waaaay down.
For a brief period of time the Meijer gas station was selling 20 oz. cans of Coke. They were the same diameter as a 12-oz. can, but taller.
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be nice, he's sad that his crap comes in a different format. A TRADEGY!!! :(~~~
Re #6: So will lemon juice! ;>
I've switched to plain carbonated water. Get the fizz without the sugar.
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(I have a seltzer bottle, so I make my own carbonated water. Not sure how that works for sodium, but it shouldn't be any more than the tap water I start with. May not be carbonated, just fizzy.)
Hospital offers all its patients 8 oz cans of soda at lunch and dinner. I was amazed at the number of sick people drinking soda. Juice was allowed only at breakfast.
I don't even drink it when I'm well. Vile stuff.
I wonder if it's mainly the sugar or the carbonic acid in soda that's bad for teeth? If it's the acid, I'd expect carbonated water to be just as bad.
I discussed this with my dentist just a couple of days ago (same time I asked him about the lemon juice; see the lemon juice item). He told me it's the sugar that's bad for your teeth. He also said he's read that the carbonation is bad for your bones. He said there are a lot of teenagers getting broken bones these days because they have weak bones from drinking too many carbonated beverages. A month or so ago, my son's dentist told my son, and his mother and I, that his current pet peeve is carbonated beverages because he's convinced they're bad for the teeth. We didn't discuss it in more detail at the time. I discussed all of this with my son a few days ago. We made a pact for the two of us to cut down on carbonated beverages. We're both going to miss them, but we will get by somehow.
Are carbonated beverages supposed to be bad for the bones, in his opinion, because of some inherent property or is it because they're likely to replace calcium-rich milk as the beverage of choice?
Carbonation alone shouldn't be bad for you. After all, you breath out CO2. However most carbonated beverages contain sugar, which can lead to tooth decay. The acidity of carbonated water is weak, and certainly much less acid than stomach fluids.
sugar - caffiene - water - flavor .. it;s all trash/junk - *NO* for EverOne!
Maybe, water is OK?
No, no water! If a kangaroo mouse can go dry, surely you can, too.. :-p
I think TS meant that the combination of all four is bad. I will confess to being a caffeine addict. Coffee, with minimal additives.
Re #16: Most experts seem to feel there's nothing inherent in carbonated beverages that hurts bones, it's just that they replace other beverages that *help*. Most people simply don't get enough calcium.
John, are you guys going to Dr. Rizzo?
My dentist didn't say why carbonated beverages were bad for bones, just that he'd read that teenagers are getting more broken bones and that this was attributed to carbonated beverages. When I see my son's pediatrician next, I may ask for more information on the topic. re resp:23: John goes to Dr. Rizzo, but he doesn't have evening hours and so it's not practical for me to go to him as well.
I love Dr. Rizzo. I wish I could find a dentist like him here.
according to this: http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/mld/sunnews/living/6874823.htm phosphoric acid may also be a problem...in addition to the ones already mentioned.
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re resp:25: Brooke, you recommended him to me, which is why John goes there. I like him too and wish I could go to him myself.
Re #26: "Men have different beverage consumption patterns," Tucker says. "They drink more alcohol, and alcohol can be protective of bone in some ways." In research awaiting publication, Tufts researchers found that beer appears to protect bone, possibly because of its silicone content. Woohoo! *belch*
I wouldn't think you'd want beer to contain silicone, nor would it naturally. Silicon, perhaps, as all natural waters and anything stored in glass contains some dissolved silicon as orthosilicic acid. There has been some recent publicity about a study suggesting silicon in the diet sometimes assists in bone formation, but there is no established RDA for silicon.
I observe that soda in glass containers is much harder to find than before.
I read a 19th century recipe for carbonated drinks - baking soda to which you add fruit juice (acidic) to produce carbon dioxide, same as when baking. I suspect it tastes a bit like baking soda.
Depends on the proportions. If it ends up acidic, it will be sour: if it ends up alkaline (excess sodium bicarbonate) it will be bitter. People generally prefer sour to bitter.
I've read that the problem with fragile bones may be a general lack of vitamin D; it's so bad that rickets is making a comeback in infants, who usually don't drink pop. Re #33: People like certain sour tastes because things like citric acid are indicative of nutrients like vitamin C.
Are infants no longer being wheeled around outside in prams?
only when my wife puts on her hoopskirt and i grow a handelbar moustache.
With the concern these days about skin cancer, more people are either covering up themselves and their children, or using sunscreen. Unfortunately the same ultraviolet light that causes skin cancer also is necessary for the skin to produce vitamin D.
yeh, well the combinatin of all 4 is horrid - close to child abuse (imo)- and genreally *bad* even if yo ar not a child. pop/soda is teh total bane of nutrition. aside from teh extrodinary cost, the deletarious effects, over time, ought to make yo sell your coke shares in protest.
/hands you a flat warm can of bapst
i prefer guiness .... but thank yo just teh same....
Pop is cheaper than any other beverage except tap water. Even bottled water is more expensive.
So what is the geographical extent of this? Have 16-20 ounce bottles of soda been discontiuned nationally? Is this only Ann Arbor/Ypsi? All of Michigan?
I still see 20-oz. bottles in gas stations.
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re #44: I saw it there all the time. Or did you mean "24 oz"?
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I seem to recall a decent number of people saying "pop" in Seattle, but maybe I'm just imagining that..
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Re #41: Distilled is still pretty cheap, if you get it in gallon containers.
Hmm. A friend of mine who has lived in Gig Harbor for almost all of his life insists it's "pop" there.
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RE#38 -- Get off your moral high horse....;-) soda/pop is fine in moderation, just like everything else.
Funny, as a Northwesterner, I thought we all said "pop" around here.
re #52 .. if that moderation is about 2 liters per 6 months, ok, no high horse.
i make it a point to say "soady-pop" around here.
Re #51: He's going to grad school in Pullman. And I mean his life to date, of course. Hopefully well over half of it has yet to happen. ;> I can't see him leaving Washington state, though, he likes it too much there.
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