Grex Agora46 Conference

Item 87: DVD burners and the RIAA

Entered by pvn on Sun Jul 13 09:46:40 2003:

Talk about locking the barn door after the horse has done run off and
gotten run over by a train...

On a spec I purchased a refurbished DVD writer for small change- plain
brown box on account it had been "refurbed".  So far it works like any
other CD burner and I am currently listening to a dup of a music CD that
I burned as a test.  Basically I put it in the box in the place of a
name brand CD writer and ran it through my paces.  Now I am not one to
bootleg software. I have not a spit of interest.  And its only because I
have a child that I make copys of CDs before I let the little hellion
get her hands on it to play with on her PC.  Likely as not she will use
the CD in her latest pottery project.

So, the next thing I do with the new to me DVD writer is to make a copy
of the SUSE distribution.  No problemo.  No DeCSS needed.  I dunno but I
think that the next thing to do is to make a copy of my daughter's
favorite DVD movie without ever having used DeCSS and see if it plays on
the DVD drive in the TV room.  I'll report on that later but I have no
reason to suspect any different results.
9 responses total.
#1 of 9 by mynxcat on Mon Jul 14 16:31:06 2003:

And your point is?

#2 of 9 by dcat on Mon Jul 14 17:28:18 2003:

Does he/she/it have one?  Do they ever?

#3 of 9 by krj on Mon Jul 14 18:24:30 2003:

It was never argued that CSS prevented disk cloning.  From the 
viewpoint of the MPAA, disk cloning is a much slower threat than 
distribution through the internet, and my understanding is that 
for that, you need DeCSS or its equivalent.
 
But the Internet distribution of new releases is not coming from 
consumer DVDs anyway, because they haven't been sold yet.

#4 of 9 by russ on Tue Jul 15 02:39:46 2003:

Re #3:  You could read and distribute the raw DVD data, which
you don't need DeCSS to do either; all DeCSS does for you is
to get the DVD drive to decrypt the data for you, in real time.
Where the data is decrypted, or by whom, matters not at all.

#5 of 9 by krj on Tue Jul 15 07:39:36 2003:

My assumption is that raw DVD video isn't being generally distributed
across the Internet because the files are too honking big.

#6 of 9 by krj on Tue Jul 15 07:40:42 2003:

/raw DVD video/raw DVD data/    whoops

#7 of 9 by pvn on Wed Jul 16 06:07:01 2003:

My experience is in watching network traffic.  Yes, it is more common 
to see ripped files in various formats of movies (ripped from DVDs) 
because not all that many folk have even DVD readers on their computer 
but still want to view them.  I know of one person who actually makes 
DVDs of multiple .avi files of movies because that is more convenient 
when traveling - he writes DVDs of DVDs that he owns not downloaded

#8 of 9 by tod on Mon Jul 28 18:00:48 2003:

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#9 of 9 by gregb on Thu Aug 21 18:12:03 2003:

That was cool.

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