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Item 78: Iowa seeks dismissal of lawsuit filed by people taught to stutter

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8 responses total.

#1 of 8 by rcurl on Fri Jul 11 17:42:53 2003:

Did the project succeed? The article doesn't say. In any case, at worst,
it appears to be an ethical lapse by Johnson, not by the State. Now-a-days
there are protocols and review boards for human research, and it is the
researcher that is held responsible for ethical errors. 



#2 of 8 by sabre on Fri Jul 11 19:46:36 2003:

scott won the stuttering contest in his special education class.


#3 of 8 by scott on Fri Jul 11 19:47:32 2003:

Ooohhhh, a personal insult from "I pleasure myself daily" sabre.


#4 of 8 by sabre on Fri Jul 11 19:51:23 2003:

like you never play with yourself....NIGGA PLEZ!!!


#5 of 8 by jmsaul on Fri Jul 11 22:42:21 2003:

Re #1:  It might have been a state-operated home that provided the subjects.


#6 of 8 by pvn on Sat Jul 12 04:10:02 2003:

re#5re#1:  Yes but did they know or have reason to believe that such a
six month experiment would cause lifelong damage?


#7 of 8 by jaklumen on Sat Jul 12 04:29:42 2003:

resp:3 Not only that, but from a confessed korn pone pussy lover.


#8 of 8 by jmsaul on Sat Jul 12 06:40:21 2003:

Re #6:  Well, they knew it was *supposed* to induce stuttering.  And they
        knew (or should have known) that the methodology was to inflict
        serious psychological abuse.  So I'd say they should be liable on
        moral grounds.  That's not the basis on which they're seeking
        dismissal, anyway -- it's because states were immune to suit at the
        time.


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