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Item 75: Ann Arbor Art Fairs, they're baack!

Entered by mrmat on Thu Jul 10 13:39:18 2003:

The annual Ann Arbor Art Fairs start next week (July 16-19). Does anyone 
plan to check them out or do you plan to leave town during that time?
82 responses total.

#1 of 82 by mrmat on Thu Jul 10 13:42:06 2003:

I may visit the Art Fair to check out a friend's band. I'll be playing 
with the Mr. Largebeat band on Sat. July 19 at 3:00 pm at Liberty Plaza.


#2 of 82 by gull on Thu Jul 10 14:01:02 2003:

I won't be leaving the area, but I don't have any specific plans to attend.


#3 of 82 by mary on Thu Jul 10 14:14:04 2003:

I'm on vacation, for two weeks, starting this weekend.  I'll be
at the Fair each day.  I love it.  Great fun.


#4 of 82 by polygon on Thu Jul 10 14:29:17 2003:

My office is in the midst of the Art Fairs, and I will be working that
week.


#5 of 82 by scott on Thu Jul 10 14:32:15 2003:

I'll be getting back from vacation on Wednesday evening, and I'll end up
biking down at least once or twice.  Mostly for the people-watching.


#6 of 82 by glenda on Thu Jul 10 14:35:36 2003:

I hide inside my house except for when I am at school.  The car gets parked
in front of the house on Tuesday night and doesn't get moved until it is all
over.  We live on South U near Washtenaw and have no driveway.  I may walk
down with STeve for a couple of hours for one day.  Other than some of the
music and the fun of the food court, the Art Fairs hold little interest for
me.  And I am uncomfortable in crowds.


#7 of 82 by edina on Thu Jul 10 15:17:45 2003:

I'm going for the first day!!  Woo hoo - my first in like 10 years!  Mary,
if you'd like a lunch companion, please say so.


#8 of 82 by janc on Thu Jul 10 15:42:29 2003:

We'll certainly go.


#9 of 82 by jep on Thu Jul 10 15:50:09 2003:

My son would like to go.  We'll be there at least one evening during 
the week.

I just asked for the day off next Friday.  We'll be there then.


#10 of 82 by anderyn on Thu Jul 10 16:08:10 2003:

I'll go. The bus lets me off right in the middle of it all. :-) And my
favorite (one, the only one left) vendor is close by, so I'll have to check
her out.


#11 of 82 by keesan on Thu Jul 10 16:08:31 2003:

We go for a little while to look at people but I can't take the smoke for
long.


#12 of 82 by mary on Thu Jul 10 16:25:17 2003:

Should we have the traditional Tuesday night Grex dinner
gathering at a downtown restaurant?


#13 of 82 by rcurl on Thu Jul 10 16:37:50 2003:

We once bought a ceramic lamp at an Art Fair - years ago. Still works, too
(if supplied with bulbs). Now we have a daughter that is an art major, and
have no lack of art. Wouldn't dare buy any art at a Fair. 



#14 of 82 by remmers on Thu Jul 10 16:59:37 2003:

Re #12:  Sure!


#15 of 82 by slynne on Thu Jul 10 17:58:35 2003:

I might go on Friday but if the weather is really nice, I'll probably 
go to the lake instead. 


#16 of 82 by furs on Thu Jul 10 18:43:36 2003:

Mr. Largebeat?  Is that Largebeat Existance?

I can't go. :(


#17 of 82 by gelinas on Thu Jul 10 19:28:14 2003:

I'll probably be working one of the non-profit booths at least one day.  So
I should be able to visit the new location.  I may see other stuff, too.

Jeremy Kittel will be fiddling on Wednesday, Thursday and Friday, I hear.


#18 of 82 by edina on Thu Jul 10 19:35:32 2003:

Is there a schedule somewhere for the live music?


#19 of 82 by gelinas on Thu Jul 10 19:40:46 2003:

I found it in a brochure that was delivered in the mail a few days back.
I've not looked for on line, though.


#20 of 82 by carson on Thu Jul 10 20:32:34 2003:

Ann Arbor Street Art Fair ( www.artfair.org 734-994-5260)
Art Fair Village ( www.a2southu.com/artfair.php 734-663-5300)
State Street Area Art Fair ( www.a2state.com 734-663-6511)
Ann Arbor Summer Art Fair ( www.michiganguild.org 734-662-3382)

(information from http://www.arborweb.com/seasonal_events_index.html )


#21 of 82 by dcat on Thu Jul 10 21:46:09 2003:

I'll be right in the thick of it.  In addition to my 'regular' job at the UGLi
right on campus, i'm volunteering at information booths in the State Street
and Street ('Original', formerly 'South U', now North U/Washington area)
Fairs.

I'd be up for dinner Tuesday except I'm not exactly swimming in cash at the
moment.   <suddenly remembers the largish check coming from SummerFest shortly
(hey, it's more money than *i've* ever made in two days before. . . .)>
yeah, i should be able to be there.



#22 of 82 by sabre on Thu Jul 10 22:31:02 2003:

I'll come if there's plenty of corn pone pussy around


#23 of 82 by furs on Thu Jul 10 22:43:25 2003:

You won't just take regular pussy?


#24 of 82 by dcat on Thu Jul 10 22:44:53 2003:

probably can't *get* regular pussy. . .


#25 of 82 by sabre on Thu Jul 10 22:51:03 2003:

no I want CORN PONE PUSSY. Bitches with corn pone upbringing like it at least
5 times a day. Dcat regular pussy just gets worn out by my manhood


#26 of 82 by other on Fri Jul 11 00:32:23 2003:

Ahh the joys of twit-filtration.


#27 of 82 by ea on Fri Jul 11 03:18:18 2003:

the Tuesday night dinner was enjoyable last year.  I'd be up for doing 
it again.

As for during the fairs: Most of my day will be spent working the 
parking lot at Angell Elementary School.  I will be at the CTN booth 
(somewhere in front of Burton Tower ... no longer in front of the 
Liberty St. Post Office) for a few hours on Thursday afternoon.

Music: If I can find out when/where/if George Bedard is playing, I'll 
try to show up there.  I'm also going to try and catch Psychaetropia. 
(haven't heard them, but I've got a friend in the band ... not sure of 
times, but I believe they'll be playing from the front porch of a local 
business)


#28 of 82 by scott on Fri Jul 11 06:42:27 2003:

Hey, this is the first year with the extra art fair, isn't it?


#29 of 82 by mrmat on Fri Jul 11 10:58:14 2003:

Re:#16,  These days it's just Mr. Largebeat, with mostly a new line-up.
Just started playing again this year after a four-year hiatus.


#30 of 82 by sabre on Fri Jul 11 11:52:06 2003:

hey "other" I wish the fuck you would ignore.You shitdick drama queen.
Then I wouldn't have to listen to your crybaby bullshit.


#31 of 82 by russ on Fri Jul 11 12:07:26 2003:

Tuesday sounds great.  I'll see if I can get there with my latest
inspirational playthings.  Any suggestions for the restaurant?


#32 of 82 by furs on Fri Jul 11 12:48:42 2003:

What does an "extra art fair" mean?  Are they expanding?  (I'm a bit 
out of the loop, you see.


#33 of 82 by slynne on Fri Jul 11 13:11:33 2003:

I think the one on S University is moving and another one is going to 
be on South U


#34 of 82 by scott on Fri Jul 11 13:50:42 2003:

There has been some drama between the South University fair and the local
merchants, such that thisyear the original South U fair is moving and the
local merchants are putting on their own fair.  In recent years there has been
a smaller merchant-sponsored fair on one of the side streets.  


#35 of 82 by jules on Fri Jul 11 15:20:08 2003:

i hate the art fair crowds.


#36 of 82 by dcat on Fri Jul 11 16:17:57 2003:

this is the third or fourth year for the new fair, though it's greatly
expanded this year. In past years, it's just been the portion of Church St
below South U and was called "Art Fair Village".  This year, the Original
Street Art Fair moves to the other side of campus, so the new one is expanding
to the whole of the South U fair area, and changing it's name to (i think)
"Ann Arbor's South University Art Fair" or something, although I still think
of The Original as the south U fair.


#37 of 82 by sabre on Fri Jul 11 20:00:09 2003:

Who gives a shit?,,,except maybe a few artsie fartsie faggots.


#38 of 82 by russ on Fri Jul 11 22:28:44 2003:

                        >plonk!<


#39 of 82 by jmsaul on Fri Jul 11 22:29:31 2003:

Local merchants do, which is why I know a bit about the South U one.  The
problem is that the fair on South U didn't bring in any money for the South
U merchants association, unlike the State St and Main St ones and their
associations.  That's why South U doesn't get extra police patrols, and thus
has the gang banger problem the other areas lack -- they couldn't pay for
extra coverage.  So the South U merchants ousted the existing fair and decided
to start their own.


#40 of 82 by senna on Sat Jul 12 05:29:48 2003:

The distinctions between Art Fairs are pretty much irrelevant, even for the
interested patron.  That doesn't stop the Ann Arbor News from following the
soap opera like the Paparazzi chasing after Princess Diana, though.  



#41 of 82 by sabre on Sat Jul 12 11:42:19 2003:

I wish you would do a real >plonk< on me. I shall do the same to you.
You say nothing of merit anyway. 

So >PLONK!<  I also "!shit" you biotch.
When I come to MI ..I'm gonna whip that ass.


#42 of 82 by senna on Sun Jul 13 01:51:13 2003:

In fairness, while I have long enjoyed sniping at the art fair hype, it's not
at all a bad event, and it's not like local media don't hype other local
events that I actually like.  I still think Ann Arbor gets a bit too much of
an inflated view about itself, but things like Art Fair just don't happen
everywhere.  

And downtown is easy to avoid.  Traffic hangups aren't as bad as football exit
traffic, either, and I don't exactly complain about that. :)  

So what was I saying?  Oh, yeah, all my whining about art fair was unfair.


#43 of 82 by mary on Sun Jul 13 17:22:21 2003:

I've made a reservation for 8ish, for the Parthenon, 5:30 p.m., this
coming Tuesday, the eve of Art Fair.  If you know you're joining let me
know, here or in mail, so we end up not too over (or under) the
reservation.  Thanks. 



#44 of 82 by remmers on Mon Jul 14 19:16:33 2003:

I'll be there.  (But you knew that.)


#45 of 82 by remmers on Mon Jul 14 19:22:24 2003:

(I've also put an announcement of this august event in the motd.)


#46 of 82 by janc on Tue Jul 15 00:32:32 2003:

Jan, Valerie, Arlo, and Kendra expect to come.  That's 4ish right there.


#47 of 82 by mary on Tue Jul 15 00:39:30 2003:

Cool.  I'll up the number tomorrow as I know a few more
are planning to attend.


#48 of 82 by dcat on Tue Jul 15 01:26:56 2003:

I'll come for a bit, but I'm going to 7 Samurai at the MT at 630.


#49 of 82 by mary on Tue Jul 15 14:36:38 2003:

I think we're up to 13 people who've said they are coming to 
dinner.  So I'll increase the reservation to 16.  Oompah!
And see you there.


#50 of 82 by krj on Tue Jul 15 18:25:27 2003:

Rats, I missed the warning about this, and it's too late for me 
this year.


#51 of 82 by gelinas on Wed Jul 16 05:48:16 2003:

The company and the food were good.  Nice to put a face to the dcat loginid.


#52 of 82 by mary on Wed Jul 16 11:26:46 2003:

I agree.  It was nice to meet your wife too.

Everyone's food looked good.  Even Arlo's grilled cheese.

I was hungry. ;-)


#53 of 82 by other on Wed Jul 16 16:54:40 2003:

No complaints about the fried calamari, but Grizzly Peak does it better.


#54 of 82 by dcat on Thu Jul 17 03:11:17 2003:

Chicken/lamb meatballs were good.  Good also to put a few more faces to names,
although (kip) is another grexer whom i believe i've met before (didn't you
do the OS X lecture for LUGWash last year?).


#55 of 82 by ea on Thu Jul 17 03:37:34 2003:

Sounds like i should have tried to leave work early to be there ... 
maybe next year.


#56 of 82 by dcat on Thu Jul 17 04:54:03 2003:

(other) & I had to leave early to make the Seven Samurai showing at 630 at
the MT.  Good movie, if a (eensy) bit long. :)


#57 of 82 by jaklumen on Fri Jul 18 04:26:37 2003:

I'd love to see it sometime-- supposedly, Liam Niesen studied it for 
his role in "Phantom Menace".


#58 of 82 by krj on Fri Jul 18 06:07:37 2003:

Today I was touring Art Fair with STeve from about 2 until closing.
Grexers sighted:  ea bicycling up behind us on South U, and Rob Argy
over by the spinning cube sculpture while we were having dinner.
 
We mostly concentrated on the Original Street Art Fair in its new
digs around Burton Tower.  My initial reactions to the new site 
are very positive.  It's *spacious* with lots of shady spots, and 
the location should handle Saturday's crowds well.  The absence of 
the merchants -- the new location is entirely? on the UM Campus --
makes it feel more open and less pressured, and I was having flashes
on the Carbondale Mountain Fair in Colorado, held in a city park.  
There is the Neptune Fountain for a new centerpiece; there is the 
Michigan League for air-conditioned retreat; we heard a carillon
concert. 

What did everyone else think?


#59 of 82 by scott on Fri Jul 18 10:18:47 2003:

I just biked around the periphery, or at least tried to.  I got onto the Diag
through the east side somewhere, then realized I was sort of trapped by Art
Fairs on almost every side.  I finally managed to escape through the corner
of State & South U, taking the long way around to Ashley.


#60 of 82 by mary on Fri Jul 18 11:41:55 2003:

I agree with you, Ken, the new location is better.  It reminds me
of my favorite fair held in State College, PA, home of Penn State.
Their fair is much smaller than ours but with some incredible art.
It's held on a long wide pedestrian way lined  with huge old oak
trees.  Lots of shade, no firepits with sausages or violinists
playing muzak at the limits of their speaker's volume.

Maybe it's age, maybe it's the new larger size, but our fair 
looks tacky to me this year.


#61 of 82 by janc on Fri Jul 18 14:17:42 2003:

Yeah, I like the new location of the Original Fair - I just don't like it's
contents so much.  It has the lowest density of stuff I like of all the fairs
I've visited.  (Which isn't that many of them, actually, since seeing a lot
of the fair while totting two kids is not so easy).


#62 of 82 by keesan on Fri Jul 18 14:47:02 2003:

We liked the new location because there was a place to sit in the shade of
the bell tower in the afternoon.  We sat down next to someone that Jim had
worked with 20 years ago.  It took 20 minutes before they recognized each
other.  Jim pointed out that you can distinguish the tourists from the townies
because the former had perfectly white shoes.  This guy had shoes even dirtier
than Jim's, and a carillon concert program.


#63 of 82 by dcat on Fri Jul 18 15:39:03 2003:

The artists like the new location, too --- no merchants everywhere, it's not
as crowded, bigger walking areas, and no parking meters in/right behind their
booths.

Handful of fairgoer complaints about it being too spread out, but it's kinda
hard to get 1400 artists (not to mention half to three quarters of a million
tourists) into a smaller space. . . .


#64 of 82 by furs on Fri Jul 18 17:39:51 2003:

I wish I could be there. :(


#65 of 82 by scott on Fri Jul 18 19:01:13 2003:

I'm finding myself to be totally uninterested in checking out the Art Fair
this year, aside from bicycling around a bit yesterday (as a rule, don't get
tangled up in the crowds, so I didn't see much).  

Seems like a lot of the usual stages are gone, though - I didn't see the State
& Washington stage, the Liberty & Ashly stage either.


#66 of 82 by dcat on Fri Jul 18 20:17:08 2003:

They're still working on the building at State & Washington during the day,
so they couldn't ask someone to try playing music there.  They moved the AA
Art Center info booth up there, and *we've* been having trouble being heard.
Thursday they were pumping concrete up to the sixth floor or something; it
was *quite* loud.

Also, the Free Press's "official" guide to the Art Fair is absolutely
trash; they left out a bunch of information booths from the map (and left *in*
the old tram round the Fairs that hasn't run in several years), so I wouldn't
be surprised if you're looking on that and not finding stages that do, in
fact, exist.


#67 of 82 by tod on Fri Jul 18 20:19:21 2003:

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#68 of 82 by dcat on Fri Jul 18 21:45:40 2003:

resp:67 - No.

The *good* guide to the Art Fairs is produced by the local monthly magazine
Ann Arbor Observer.  Don't think the Ann Arbor News does much more than a map
in one section.


#69 of 82 by other on Fri Jul 18 22:42:09 2003:

Jon, you work for the AAAC?


#70 of 82 by dcat on Fri Jul 18 23:04:52 2003:

I've been volunteering for AAAC and the Street Art Fair ("the Original") at
information booths this week, but I don't otherwise work for either group.


#71 of 82 by gelinas on Sat Jul 19 04:51:09 2003:

I usually visit only the one fair.  I like it's new location.  Unfortunately,
other committments left me time for only one relatively quick circuit on
Wednesday.  I liked what I saw, but nothing specific, other than Stephen Zeh's
baskets, comes to mind right now.


#72 of 82 by janc on Sat Jul 19 04:51:37 2003:

In previous years the Observer Guide has been the "Official" guide.  I gather
some of the Observer people were annoyed that that designation had been given
to the Free Press without even consulting the Observer.  The Observer went
ahead and did a nice guide anyway, but I wonder if the long article in the
front about the aging of the Art Fairs and the decline in attendence isn't
a small indication of annoyance.  Hey, if they aren't official, they don't
have to be nice.


#73 of 82 by krj on Sat Jul 19 15:24:10 2003:

Concur with Scott in resp:65 :: it seems like the main official stages
are all gone, or at least moved somewhere I haven't found them.  
Haven't found any music more ambitious than Mr. B's boogie-woogie piano.


#74 of 82 by scott on Sat Jul 19 16:51:19 2003:

I found myself more interested this morning, so I spent a couple hours between
Main & State streets.  Aside from the usual Ecuadoran guys at Liberty &
Division there was almost nothing - a couple random guys with electronic
pianos in a couple of spots.  Never did see anything which looked like a
stage.


#75 of 82 by dcat on Sat Jul 19 19:57:54 2003:

resp:73 - as far as I'm aware, there are only four performance areas
besides Mr B & a "barefoot violinist" at South U & Forest: WEMU Stage, @ Church
& Willard; South U & Tappan; South U & East U; and Ingalls Mall a bit below
Washington.  Not sure if there was anything at Liberty Plaza as well.  Also not
sure by how much that's less than previously --- has there ever been a stage
downtown?  I remember a clown, but that's it.


#76 of 82 by scott on Sat Jul 19 21:35:11 2003:

Used to be a big stage at Liberty Plaza, another at State & Washington, and
yet another at Liberty (or maybe Washington) & Ashley.  An actual stage, a
PA system, bands, etc.  And that's only what we had recently.  Back around
1980 there was a really cool stage on the diag too.  Oh, and within 5 years
ago there was music at State & Thompson, too.


#77 of 82 by dcat on Sat Jul 19 22:15:44 2003:

Would've been Liberty at Ashley, as this is the first year there's anything
anywhere on Washington.  Was that beyond the food court, or replaced by it?
I didn't make it that far down Liberty this year.

Not sure what you mean by State & Thompson, but those streets don't intersect.
Liberty & Thompson?  That'd be too close to Liberty Plaza. . .

Did notice that only WEMU seemed to have a real stage.  Not sure what the deal
is.  Someone suggested the amount of construction in the area, but I'm curious
if the combination of the sluggish economy & the cost of the lawsuits btwn
Street Art Fair & South U Area Assoc. had anything to do with it . . . .
(i.e., cutting down on their ability to pay artists to perform, to rent
equipment, etc.)


#78 of 82 by scott on Sun Jul 20 00:05:38 2003:

Oops, Liberty & Thompson.  Usually just a tent with a steel band.

The Liberty & Ashley stage was down by Ashley, sort of capping off the food
court.  

Used to be you'd always hear music, sometimes from a couple different
directions at once.


#79 of 82 by gelinas on Sun Jul 20 00:54:07 2003:

Kleefeld was playing his piano, or his CDs, behind the Sailing Club booth on
Liberty.  A harpist was three booths east of the Pioneer Water Polo drink
booth.  I heard music from the sunken garden at Liberty and Division, but I
didn't investigate closely when walking that area.

Jeremy Kittel was fiddling on Ingalls Mall while I was in that area on
Wednesday.


#80 of 82 by dcat on Sun Jul 20 01:02:40 2003:

Al Hill was playing an electric piano keyboard thing at South & East U at 5ish
this afternoon.  Don't know if he'd been there all week.


#81 of 82 by mrmat on Sun Jul 20 02:33:27 2003:

There was music at Liberty Plaza, but neither the Art Fair or Herb 
David promoted the site as an entertainment venue. Our band had to put 
up flyers to advertise our appearance. The entertainment areas really 
got little attention in the Art Fair Guide or in the paper.

I know that this is supposed to be an Art Fair, but there should be 
complete information for all activities associated with it.


#82 of 82 by dcat on Sun Jul 20 20:16:33 2003:

resp:81 - I think the Free Press spent so much money to become "Official
Guide" to the Art Fairs, they forgot to spend any on producing the guide
itself.  One of the many things they left out was the entertainment listings.
Not sure what the Observer's excuse is for their puny entertainment section,
though.


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