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Item 74: Plattsburgh

Entered by naftee on Thu Jul 10 01:43:01 2003:

So I'm going to be in Plattsburgh, New York, September 12,13 and 14 this fall
again with the band. It's the anniversary of the Battle of Plattsburgh. Anyone
going to be there?
19 responses total.

#1 of 19 by spock on Thu Jul 10 16:19:33 2003:

ill be in virginia


#2 of 19 by tod on Thu Jul 10 16:22:19 2003:

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#3 of 19 by sabre on Thu Jul 10 16:52:35 2003:

What diffrence does it make? The far left liberals have twisted and perverted
everything the founding fathers said anyway.


#4 of 19 by rcurl on Thu Jul 10 17:10:17 2003:

The founding fathers WERE the original far left liberals. How else could a
republic with freedom of the press and separation of church and state been
created? 



#5 of 19 by tod on Thu Jul 10 17:13:56 2003:

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#6 of 19 by scott on Thu Jul 10 18:14:01 2003:

The "founding fathers" were a bunch of hard-core radicals.  No king?!?  No
royalty?  A representative government?????  For those days that was about as
far left as you could even imagine.


#7 of 19 by flem on Thu Jul 10 19:21:50 2003:

Hmm, not sure I'd go that far.  The British government was certainly pretty
far down the path of stripping power from the King and giving it to the
various assemblies.  Certainly by 1800 it wouldn't be stretching to call
Britain a representative government.  


#8 of 19 by gelinas on Thu Jul 10 19:24:15 2003:

Yeah, but that was a quarter-century after the American declaration of
independence, and more than a decade after the constitution of the United
States.


#9 of 19 by flem on Thu Jul 10 19:26:57 2003:

Well, my British history is weak, but I would assume that there weren't huge,
sweeping changes in British governance in the last quarter century of the
1800s.  I could be wrong, tho.  


#10 of 19 by tod on Thu Jul 10 19:38:32 2003:

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#11 of 19 by naftee on Fri Jul 11 02:22:49 2003:

SO NOBODY LIVES IN PLATTSBUIRGHI


#12 of 19 by johnnie on Fri Jul 11 17:07:17 2003:

On the contrary, approximately 18000 people live in Plattsburgh.


#13 of 19 by md on Sat Jul 12 14:45:13 2003:

There was quite a controversy in Plattsburgh last year over the 
discontinuance, by Bouyea-Fassetts bakery, of a style of hot dog bun 
used locally in the preparation of a "coney"-like hot dog item -- an 
oversized roll with a hotdog inside it covered by a generous layer of 
meat sauce.  This was called a "michigan," believe it or not, and was 
much beloved of local college kids and others.  

The "michigan roll," as the discontinued bun was called, was said to 
resemble a New England style hot dog bun, only bigger.  New England 
style hot dog buns, in case you've never seen one, are slightly 
oversized hot dog buns with flat crustless sides.  You grill or pan-
toast them on each side, and use them for lobster rolls, clam rolls and 
shrimp rolls, which you can buy almost anywhere in New England, 
including MacDonalds.  

I have yet to see New England style hot dog buns in any supermarket or 
ordinary bakery hereabouts, so we have to schlep to bakery outlets over 
in Clinton or down in Taylor in order to buy them for the lobster rolls 
our kids -- and now all our kids' friends -- can't live without in the 
summer.  I can *walk* to the nearest store that sells Italian truffles, 
but I have to drive 45 minutes each way to buy a fucking hot dog bun.

Anyway, it was during the course of a Google search for "new england 
style hot dog buns michigan" in the hope of finding something nearby 
that I came across some articles about the Plattsburgh "michigan roll" 
riots.


#14 of 19 by polytarp on Sat Jul 12 14:50:51 2003:

Why don't you just bake your own buns?!


#15 of 19 by md on Sat Jul 12 14:54:08 2003:

As a matter of fact, I did download a recipe for them.  It rivals 
Leviticus in length and complexity.


#16 of 19 by jmsaul on Sat Jul 12 18:39:04 2003:

How do you prepare the lobster for a lobster roll?  Got a recipe?


#17 of 19 by md on Sat Jul 12 20:23:21 2003:

You prepare the lobsters by boiling them and cutting them up into 
smallish pieces.  On the Connecticut coast the rolls contain lobster 
chunks and butter.  I've never liked them.  Elsewhere in New England, 
it's a lobster salad in a toasted New England style bun.  The basic 
ingredients are lobster chunks and mayo, with various optional extras 
such as chopped celery and onion.  Purists prefer lobster and mayo 
only.  You "toast" the bun by buttering each side and frying it in a 
pan until golden brown and crisp.  


#18 of 19 by gull on Mon Jul 14 15:41:45 2003:

That does sound awfully good.


#19 of 19 by twenex on Thu Jul 24 20:09:23 2003:

Re #9. Last quarter of the 18th century, no. but the reform acts of 183[56]
extended the franchise by several million. men.

Incredibly (and something i only found out about three months back),
poorhouses were not abolished until the 1920s. eergh.


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