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Comme perhaps, bastard no: i know who my father is and he was married to my mother at the time. Plato was not a believer in democracy, but in the virtues of a monarchical, aristrocratic, military-semi dictatorship. Liberals do not lack moral standards (even if their response to persons without moral standards is sometimes less harsh than it really should be. Liberals are not baby-killers. They simply believe that the rights of womens, and specifically mothers in relation to abortion, are equal to (a) men and (b) those of the child. Conservatives, on the other hand, refuse to take into account the moral dilemma of a woman who has been raped, or is in danger of dying if a baby is born, preferring to take their "moral" standards from a book and teachings written/deriving from 2000 years ago. Liberals morals concern giving everyone as fair a deal as is possible, rather than "whatever suits me at the time" - which is a rather conservative outlook. Again, blacks have as much right to live as whites. Indeed, if, as seems likely, Africans were the first humans, humans were *originally* black, evolving white skin _only_ when necessary to deal with a different climate - much as an Afro-American will, even now, look slightly different to a native African. Even if the US is taken as the most right-wing democracy, then the fact that the US provides income support to the jobless AND provided a minimum wage *before* the UK proves that it tolerates wastage; even if these were to be abolished, those who were strong enough to survive by leeching would find a way of doing so (witness criminals, who exist in spite of laws banning their actions). Those who re-write history (denial of the Holocaust, the Irish Potato Famine/Great Hunger, etc.) are frequently (fi not always) exposed as *conservatives*, with an agenda. *Time* has destroyed "the original intent" of the Founding Fathers. Neither the US nor the UK is the same as they were in 1787. The UK has changed for the better, I'll leave Americans to decide whether this applies to the US. Wars are frequently waged for religious reasons - are wars not carnage? Removing prayer from schools (a) moves it to the province of people's private lives, where no-one has a right to interfere unless one is doing something illegal/morally reprehensible (b) removes bias in school prayers, as modern multicultural societies include Buddhists, Muslims, and other religions; providing prayer services for all these religions in cross-denominational schools is prohibitively expensive and impractical. I do not deny that i detest conservatism, and would like to see a world free of it; however, any attempt on my part to suppress it would be met by an equal and oposite reaction, in the end, which i surely wouldn't like; therefore, it is impractical to attempt to suppress it. It is also unfair to those who vehemently disagree with me, which is undemocratic. "The SCUM that burns [your] flag" do it because of conservatives' burning desire to do whatever the hell suits them, as long as people who disagree with them don't get a piece of the action. Install democracies in the Middle East _with the prior consent of the people_, if you want to stop that. "A godly life"? You admit that liberals are virtuous? Or just recognise that anyone has the right to live as godly a life as they are able to procure for themselves, *without* imposing the _in_ability to do the same on anyone else? Most liberals would agree with that, i think. History (and GREX) will decide who is in the right.
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