Grex Agora46 Conference

Item 6: If You're Happy and You Know it Write it Down!

Entered by mooncat on Sun Jun 22 22:20:48 2003:

This is the item to explain just why it is that you're happy today.

The standard accepted format is to say 'IHB...' That standing for I'm 
Happy Because.

So go to it!
673 responses total.

#1 of 673 by maryeliz on Sun Jun 22 22:32:05 2003:

IHB today is my birthday.


#2 of 673 by aruba on Sun Jun 22 22:44:33 2003:

Happy Birthday, Mary!


#3 of 673 by anderyn on Sun Jun 22 22:51:09 2003:

Happy birthday Mary! :-) IHB I finished the new Harry Potter novel today and
it was good.


#4 of 673 by mooncat on Sun Jun 22 23:01:52 2003:

Happy Birthday Mary!!

IHB- the roomie finished HER copy of HP #5 today, so now I can read 
it. :)


#5 of 673 by gelinas on Mon Jun 23 03:22:09 2003:

IAHB I've _almost_ finished _The_Order_of_the_Phoenix; I've about thirty pages
to go.


#6 of 673 by polytarp on Mon Jun 23 03:36:13 2003:

Wow.  That's quick.


#7 of 673 by tpryan on Mon Jun 23 12:35:31 2003:

        As Dave Atell would say, "Get some sleep".


#8 of 673 by gregb on Mon Jun 23 15:42:53 2003:

IHB I'm expected my Aunt and Unc from Indiana.  They're the coolest 
reletives.  Both are natural comedians and always have great stories to 
tell.  And the best part is, you never know if they're true...until the 
end!

IAHB Summer weather seems to be here to stay...YEAH!  And I got another 
week of vacation.


#9 of 673 by eskarina on Mon Jun 23 18:52:17 2003:

IHB I"m about to leave on a random road trip with a friend... yay!


#10 of 673 by orinoco on Mon Jun 23 20:29:27 2003:

I suspect it's warm enough for a trip to Pickerel Lake one of these evenings.


#11 of 673 by keesan on Mon Jun 23 20:53:22 2003:

I like spring weather.  Summer weather is too hot.  By 3 pm my living room
where I work is like a furnace, and by 5 the sun hits my chair, and when I
go anywhere I keep crossing the street to look for shade.  At least it is dry.


#12 of 673 by scott on Tue Jun 24 03:18:32 2003:

On the last possible day, a new home for my cat Dave turned up.  Friend of
a friend of a friend, apparently.


#13 of 673 by slynne on Tue Jun 24 03:32:55 2003:

thats good


#14 of 673 by edina on Tue Jun 24 12:04:36 2003:

My mom arrives today!


#15 of 673 by jmsaul on Tue Jun 24 12:14:19 2003:

I'm glad he found a home.


#16 of 673 by gull on Tue Jun 24 13:27:59 2003:

IHB I got a Handspring Treo 180G on eBay, and it's working out really
well for me.  Now I don't have to carry around both a Palm and a cell phone.


#17 of 673 by polytarp on Tue Jun 24 15:06:39 2003:

#14 of 16: by Brooke Edmunds (edina) on Tue, Jun 24, 2003 (08:04):
 My mom arrives today!
#15 of 16: by Joseph M Saul (jmsaul) on Tue, Jun 24, 2003 (08:14):
 I'm glad he found a home.


#18 of 673 by lynne on Tue Jun 24 15:50:05 2003:

ditto #15


#19 of 673 by scott on Tue Jun 24 16:30:18 2003:

The house does seem a bit empty with no cats, though.


#20 of 673 by lynne on Tue Jun 24 20:34:29 2003:

Wah, wah.  Why don't you just, like, go to Norway or something?  :)


#21 of 673 by orinoco on Tue Jun 24 22:09:56 2003:

I was going to make a snide remark about Norway being a dark and dreary place
to go to cheer up, but then I realized it's probably sunny and mild there
right now.  Dammit.


#22 of 673 by scott on Wed Jun 25 00:42:08 2003:

Yes, sunny, a bit cooler than here.  Although I won't be quite up to the
arctic circle, it will still be rather bright at night.


#23 of 673 by jaklumen on Wed Jun 25 04:15:42 2003:

resp:11 Spring is nice-- one reason why I miss Yakima (spring was a 
nice time to do picnics at the campsites and avoid the crowds).  But I 
like winter best for the snow and lack of allergens.


#24 of 673 by sj2 on Wed Jun 25 09:39:22 2003:

IHB, got the phone installed today after much running after the local 
phone company. :)

And scared shitless coz got a blood test done today. What if I am 
HIV+?????!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!


#25 of 673 by arianna on Wed Jun 25 13:16:38 2003:

IHB it's my burpday!


#26 of 673 by remmers on Wed Jun 25 13:33:11 2003:

Happy birthday, then.


#27 of 673 by lynne on Wed Jun 25 15:04:37 2003:

IHB I spent 2+ hours installing my air conditioner last night.  Works like
a charm--and just in time for predicted 90+ degree weather.  not to mention
whatshisname coming out to visit next week :)


#28 of 673 by kip on Wed Jun 25 17:32:52 2003:

IHB there's a beautiful piece of stained glass in my office.


#29 of 673 by keesan on Wed Jun 25 20:56:26 2003:

I just lent my air conditioner to a friend to take to Cleveland for 10 days.
He wants to work in an upstairs room of his mother's house while she recovers
for surgery.  I live downstairs and it rarely goes over 85 in here.

I am happy because for the first time since I posted my resume (as a
translator) someone has sent me a real translation job in the field I studied.
Usually it is young men who want to impress women they know by writing them
poetry in Albanian, or someone with a Russian gravestone, or a kid assigned
two words of Serbian to translate.


#30 of 673 by tod on Wed Jun 25 21:02:12 2003:

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#31 of 673 by keesan on Wed Jun 25 22:00:57 2003:

I 'certify' at the bank in front of a notary public that I am the one who did
the translation, and I also write up a paragraph to the effect that I am a
professional translator and did this to the best of my abilities.


#32 of 673 by tod on Wed Jun 25 22:07:27 2003:

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#33 of 673 by keesan on Thu Jun 26 01:53:01 2003:

I have no license.  I state that I have been a professional translator since
1972 and have studied the languages involved, and I give my name, address,
phone number, email address, and website.


#34 of 673 by scott on Thu Jun 26 14:52:01 2003:

Made it to Norway with minimal complications.  I got randomly upgraded to
business class on the long flight, but that was balanced by forgetting my
jacket in the Frankfurt airport.  Wasn't a favorite jacket, anyway.


#35 of 673 by anderyn on Thu Jun 26 17:06:14 2003:

Tell us cool stories, Scott! 


#36 of 673 by michaela on Thu Jun 26 17:12:12 2003:

IHB I'm so in love it's disgusting.
IAHB having a window air conditioner right above the bed is a 
beautiful thing.  I'm not going to enjoy leaving this place.  :-P


#37 of 673 by mynxcat on Thu Jun 26 17:57:30 2003:

Had my first impromptu speech, and it was a hit! I should be stand up 
comedien


#38 of 673 by mdw on Thu Jun 26 18:58:16 2003:

Sarah!  You should *not* fall in love with your air conditioner!  You
will only be disapointed when they pull the plug! (I think Sarah is
trying to preempt Scott's cool stories too.)


#39 of 673 by flem on Thu Jun 26 21:28:16 2003:

Robert Heinlein defined love as the condition in which someone else's
happiness is essential to one's own.  When my air conditioner isn't happy,
it stops working, and I'm not happy.  Apparently I'm in love with my air
conditioner.  


#40 of 673 by tod on Thu Jun 26 21:35:34 2003:

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#41 of 673 by flem on Thu Jun 26 22:09:15 2003:

A freak, perhaps, but based on his writings I'd say that Heinlein was about
as libertarian as you can get, which isn't what I'd describe as possessive,
really.  
   Do you have a better definition?


#42 of 673 by keesan on Thu Jun 26 22:18:24 2003:

I got my house down to 78 degrees by opening up last night.


#43 of 673 by tod on Thu Jun 26 22:28:24 2003:

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#44 of 673 by eskarina on Thu Jun 26 23:41:21 2003:

IHB I have managed to telnet to grex from a UIC library computer.

IAHB I am in Chicago, with many options for things to do tonight, and the
sunset is pretty from inside here.


#45 of 673 by keesan on Fri Jun 27 00:53:37 2003:

78 is much nicer than 83, and it is fairly dry.  The friend who borrowed my
air conditioner reports that the combination aluminum storm/screens in his
mothers house have immovable screens and only the storms move.  I told him
to push harder since they have probably never been moved before and corroded
in place.

78 is quite pleasant.  I find air conditioned buildings in the summer 
intolerably cold when I am adapted to the warm weather.  I bring pants, socks,
and a hooded sweatshirt to the library and don't stay long.  They keep it
around 72 in the summer and 76 in the winter.


#46 of 673 by mdw on Fri Jun 27 02:01:24 2003:

The brand new aluminum storm windows in my house have immovable screens.
I presume the idea is that if they don't move, it's easier to ensure
there are no cracks for bugs to crawl through.  Probably cheaper to make
too.


#47 of 673 by jaklumen on Fri Jun 27 02:02:58 2003:

resp:36 wax on, wax off?

Having an A/C nearby is nice, but I still like central A/C best.  I 
miss it; such is life when you move out and start a family.


#48 of 673 by orinoco on Fri Jun 27 02:57:18 2003:

Heinlein had his head screwed on straight about a lot of things.  Love, IMO,
was not one of them.

IHB I met up with another old friend who I haven't seen in ages.  She is doing
well, and dating _yet another_ old friend of mine, who I also got a chance
to catch up with.  I'm not sure why all these people are coming out of the
woodwork this summer, but I'm not complaining.


#49 of 673 by other on Fri Jun 27 04:33:32 2003:

re #41:  Libertarian?  Or Libertine?  ;)


#50 of 673 by aruba on Fri Jun 27 04:58:55 2003:

Well, both, clearly.


#51 of 673 by keesan on Fri Jun 27 06:22:10 2003:

Is it possible to remove, if not move, the screens?  How would you change the
screening?  Can't the bugs get around the storm windows anyway?


#52 of 673 by edina on Fri Jun 27 15:03:39 2003:

IHB me mum is here!!  We are having a grand time at the Smithsonian Folklife
Festival and have quality time in and around the Scotland area.  We have seen
Alasdair Fraser play 5 times, an amazing Shetland band called Fiddler's Bid
5 times, Dr. Ed MIller, Sheena Wellington, and lots of speaking from Fiona
Ritchie, host of "Thistle and Shamrock".  I'm getting lots of freckles and
having fun.


#53 of 673 by arianna on Fri Jun 27 15:40:48 2003:

IHB it's Friday and I'll be moved inot my new/old place soon (moving back in
with old roommates), at the end of this weekend.


#54 of 673 by eskarina on Fri Jun 27 22:30:43 2003:

IHB the UIC gym (which I joined for a month starting today) has ellipticals,
as well as a pool.  However, the pool has funny rules.  You aren't allowed
in without a swim cap and you aren't allowed to wear goggles.  i don't get
it.


#55 of 673 by dcat on Fri Jun 27 23:41:56 2003:

IHB after several years, I'm finally going to get to see Capitol Steps at the
Power Ctr at Summer Festival on the Fourth of July.


#56 of 673 by i on Sat Jun 28 01:16:07 2003:

Re: #54 - they've had accidents due to "goggle-vision" and they got sick
of cleaning hair out of things.


#57 of 673 by senna on Sat Jun 28 06:47:51 2003:

So now they're going to have accidents because people are blinking irregularly
or closing their eyes to avoid losing their contacts.  Great solution. ;)

My youngest sister unexpectedly came home late tonight, for her one free day
between the camp weeks she works.  The "middle" sister is already scheduled
to arrive home Saturday evening, so we have the whole family together.  It
is not a common occurrance this summer.  Tracy's available to visit, too.


#58 of 673 by mary on Sat Jun 28 15:02:58 2003:

Our son is home for a week, from school, out east.

This means some heated political debates, French toast 
breakfasts, my computer's preferences morphing into 
non-preferences, gallons of pulp-free orange juice
being purchased, some amazed moments when I have no
idea what he and John are talking about, dinners at
Shalimar, and my total amazement at how life moves
along.  

My advice to myself is - hold on, loosely. ;-)


#59 of 673 by orinoco on Sat Jun 28 16:11:16 2003:

I'm (in the long run) Happy Because my wisdom teeth are finally out.  

I was still so sedated after I got home that I watched the entirety of the
Truman Show and don't remember any of it.  So I guess I'm also happy that I
get two movies' worth of entertainment for the price of one -- I'll be
watching it again this afternoon.


#60 of 673 by polytarp on Sun Jun 29 01:47:50 2003:

Did you get nitrous to help you with them nsty teeth?


#61 of 673 by jep on Sun Jun 29 03:55:15 2003:

My son and I spent the day at Lake Michigan.  We were taking quite a 
chance, as wunderground.com was predicting rain and storms all day.  
However, we lucked out.  We got some light sprinkles, but no storms, 
and we had a fabulous time.  


#62 of 673 by michaela on Sun Jun 29 09:18:01 2003:

IHB I had a fabulous week with the boy, and the weather has cooled 
down a bit.  I return to K-Zoo tomorrow.  I can't believe I've been 
away for a month.  :-P


#63 of 673 by russ on Sun Jun 29 19:41:31 2003:

IHB the shelves appear to have come out nicely (or nicely
enough to not require another pass).  Up they go at the
next opportunity.


#64 of 673 by arabella on Sun Jun 29 20:25:28 2003:

I'm extremely happy because after being in Bulgaria for a week, I finally
figured out that I could buy an internet card and connect from my hotel
room for a very reasonable rate (40 plus hours for about $10).  I've been
doing email with my cell phone modem at $1.50/minute for only 9.6K, which is
painfully slow when you know how much it's costing you to download spam.

I'm also happy because I'm doing the best singing of my life, and people
here are effusive in their praise.  

On the downside, I'm a little tired of Bulgarian restaurant food.



#65 of 673 by keesan on Sun Jun 29 22:35:39 2003:

The Bulgarians have excellent white sheep's cheese, all sorts of fruit juices,
and good bread.  Maybe the tomatoes are ripe there now.  Why eat in
restaurants?


#66 of 673 by michaela on Mon Jun 30 08:22:02 2003:

I got the nicest, loving letter today.  I still can't believe I've finally
found someone who treats me so well.


#67 of 673 by edina on Mon Jun 30 15:20:09 2003:

OFGS.

Mom has left the area, after an incredibly successful trip here.  We didnt'
kill each other, and when things got a bit tense, we would just start
laughing.  Mary, you're right - hanging on loosely is the only way to travel.


#68 of 673 by tod on Mon Jun 30 17:59:00 2003:

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#69 of 673 by lynne on Mon Jun 30 18:36:03 2003:

IHB weekend at home went reasonably well and I got to see my puppy.  He's
getting old, poor guy, but he was *so* happy to see me!  Also, just three
more days before I get my boy for the weekend.  I thought I'd more or less
adjusted to long-distance once-a-month situation, but the past month has
been especially hard to take.


#70 of 673 by orinoco on Mon Jun 30 21:12:03 2003:

My jaw was hurting like nobody's business this morning.  Dr. Fear's office
told me to just come right in, and they saw me almost right away.  Sure
enough, it was dry socket ("it was dry sockets"?  "they were dry sockets"?
"them sockets were dry"?), but he applied some sort of magical poultice to
my gums and I feel almost normal again.  IHB this all took less than an hour,
and was pretty easy and painless.


#71 of 673 by michaela on Mon Jun 30 22:17:53 2003:

IHB the first day of my summer class went well, and I really like my teacher.
We're the same age.  :-P


#72 of 673 by maryeliz on Tue Jul 1 00:02:05 2003:

IHB i am going to my sisters place in westland for a few days tomorrow.


#73 of 673 by glenda on Tue Jul 1 00:08:49 2003:

Not fair, Sarah.  I am older than most of my instructors.


#74 of 673 by scott on Tue Jul 1 09:57:16 2003:

I'll be off GRex for about a week - about to go to Kongsberg to work the
Jazzfestival there!


#75 of 673 by goose on Tue Jul 1 14:09:49 2003:

Suure...rub it in ;-)


#76 of 673 by katie on Tue Jul 1 21:37:25 2003:

I found a home for two of my three rescued kittens, one of which is blind.
I still need a home for the third one, but he is the most 'adoptable,'so
I am hopeful.


#77 of 673 by michaela on Tue Jul 1 23:33:42 2003:

IHB I'm leaving for Caro after class tomorrow, and then it's four days at the
cabin up north with the boy and his friends.  Yay!!!  :)


#78 of 673 by jaklumen on Tue Jul 1 23:37:17 2003:

Found a new ISP that is MUCH cheaper and offers a little more.


#79 of 673 by russ on Wed Jul 2 02:08:03 2003:

All the grief I went through last night was worth the effort,
and I just got my wall marked for the first shelf to go up
(don't have the proper hardware yet or I'd be drilling away).

Also found a neat article which pointed me to an extremely
cool patent:  2,905,113.  I like it when I find something
new about Bucky Fuller.


#80 of 673 by goose on Wed Jul 2 02:42:43 2003:

A plywood dome?  I think I must be missing something.  What is innovative
about it?  


#81 of 673 by gelinas on Wed Jul 2 02:50:30 2003:

Ah.  That's the patent that led to the name buckminsterfullerene:
"buckyfalls".


#82 of 673 by russ on Wed Jul 2 04:27:27 2003:

I was just sitting there, talking on the phone to a friend and
staring out the window at the black sky, and an Iridium flare
happens right in front of my eyes.  Neato-keen.

Just happened to have everything I needed to get started with
this idea for a model.  Unusual when that happens.


#83 of 673 by other on Wed Jul 2 07:15:42 2003:

I finished my index page for the NOAA radar loop java applets, and it is 
fully functional.  It was a bit tricky getting the internal URLs to parse 
correctly so all the loops would work correctly no matter whether the 
page is on my local machine or served from a remote site.


#84 of 673 by gelinas on Wed Jul 2 10:47:05 2003:

(At the time, 'twas rather innovative.  Who would think that a plywood
structure could stand up to a hurricane as well as, or better, than a concrete
structure?  And yet, a plywood geodesic dome has, if I recall correctly.)


#85 of 673 by anderyn on Wed Jul 2 13:22:05 2003:

Even though I had to leave work yesterday (window replacements in our
building), I had a nummy lunch then and found a neat book on Chinese opera.
And the office is providing lunch today. 


#86 of 673 by goose on Wed Jul 2 13:53:06 2003:

RE#84 Thanks, I did a little more research and I understand better now.


#87 of 673 by gregb on Wed Jul 2 15:24:52 2003:

On the show, Extreme Homes (HGTV), there was a story about a house in 
Minnisota that uses a dome to fend off the winds of Winter.  Cool 
looking place.


#88 of 673 by cmcgee on Wed Jul 2 16:35:11 2003:

buckyBalls


#89 of 673 by edina on Wed Jul 2 18:04:21 2003:

It just occurred to me that everytime I saw the sound guys at the folklife
fest last week (which was a lot, as I probably saw about 30 shows), I thought
of Eric.


#90 of 673 by gelinas on Wed Jul 2 18:07:56 2003:

Thanks, cmcgee; I'd just noticed that typo.


#91 of 673 by gull on Wed Jul 2 18:15:34 2003:

Someone put up a plywood dome near where we used to live, in the
country.  I haven't looked at the patent to see if the design looks
familiar.

A friend of mine lives in a concrete "Key dome" in Georgia.


#92 of 673 by dcat on Wed Jul 2 19:16:48 2003:

 for an Ann Arbor dome, head over to the north side's Jones Dr.  (btwn
Broadway and Plymouth, about a quarter mile from the Broadway Shops and former
Kroger/Arbor Drugs.)  Built about five years ago, although it took several
years.  i think it's concrete, but i'm not sure.


#93 of 673 by other on Wed Jul 2 19:23:46 2003:

The dome itself isn't concrete.  I saw it periodically during 
construction, as I contract for an organization based almost across the 
street from that house.


#94 of 673 by dcat on Wed Jul 2 19:24:59 2003:

ok.  a lot of the rest of the house is, anyway.  i was out of town for much
of its construction, so i missed a lot of what went into/on it. . . 


#95 of 673 by orinoco on Wed Jul 2 19:56:50 2003:

An old friend of mine has an uncle who lives in a dome.  My friend helped
build it, actually.  If I remember right, it's 5/8 of an icosahedron, all
wood, two stories.  They filled some of the triangles with glass to make
windows; the other ones, they covered with siding on the outside and
insulation in the inside.  It was quite cozy.  Since visiting, I've been
thinking I'd like to live in one myself someday.


#96 of 673 by eskarina on Wed Jul 2 21:17:50 2003:

<fakes a scowl>  This is the happy item!  Shall we start a geometry item?

Oh wait, geometry does make me happy, never mind.  :)

IHB I'll be in Ann Arbor in 24 hours or so.

Let that imply to no one that Chicago makes me unhappy... I am _quite_ happy
to be in Chicago, but dcat is in Ann Arbor...

IAHB I basically got a job offer today... the teacher in my classroom at
Dunbar and I get along quite well and she is in charge of math teacher
recruiting for the school.  She wrote down my name/cellphone number/email
address today and promised to give them to somewhat important.  This after
only teaching for about 10 minutes at the end of a period in her classroom!

That said, I feel excited but so far somewhat clueless about working in my
school... its on the south side of Chicago, 98% African American, and quite
poor.  I don't yet feel like I understand/relate to the kids at the school.
I also know that this school, and many like it, has quite the difficult time
finding good math teachers.

Ms. Lemons (the head teacher in the classroom) has a button on her desk that
says "Highly qualified math teachers, a HOT commodity", and I suspect that
that is very much true in the place where I am at.


#97 of 673 by russ on Thu Jul 3 00:33:11 2003:

Re #80:  It has no hexa-pent strut frame to brace it; the "struts"
are created by bends in the flat shell panels themselves.  All of
the precise cutting and fancy brackets are eliminated, and the
remaining pieces are just rectangular 4x8 sheets.

Imagine an "efficiency house kit" that fits in the back of a
pickup truck, and you'll begin to see why it's so cool.


#98 of 673 by goose on Thu Jul 3 01:52:09 2003:

Yeah, I'm there now, thanks.  Lots of possibilities. :-)


#99 of 673 by other on Thu Jul 3 04:48:36 2003:

IHB this evening, after the screening of "Wayne's World" at Top of the 
Park, a digital projection system was tested for the first time at TOP.

IAHB the test was a grand success, with brightness and clarity exceeding 
expectations all around, and as a bonus, the cost of doing digital 
projection at TOP would be less than 16mm, and the selection of available 
films would likely be greater.

The decision has not yet been made, but it looks as if the necessary 
groundwork has been laid for TOP movies to go digital next year.

Extra bonus possibility:  stereo sound!


#100 of 673 by remmers on Thu Jul 3 13:41:03 2003:

(Cool.  What media would you digitally project -- standard DVD, or
something else?)


#101 of 673 by other on Thu Jul 3 15:13:45 2003:

Probably DVD, but due to legal restrictions they would have to come from 
a distributor rather than the video store, and they might not be standard 
in all senses.  I don't know about that end of things.


#102 of 673 by tod on Thu Jul 3 22:47:23 2003:

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#103 of 673 by russ on Fri Jul 4 00:48:38 2003:

Nice bike ride, nice sit by the pool, got the crossword almost
done.


#104 of 673 by russ on Fri Jul 4 03:22:14 2003:

The speakers in the computer room are now hovering 7 feet up.
Where'd all this floor come from?


#105 of 673 by other on Fri Jul 4 07:16:25 2003:

IHB krj was hovering near the stage and quickly responded to my shouted 
request to other hovering people to clear the path between me and the 
sound shed by passing the message on in a very effective way.



#106 of 673 by sabre on Fri Jul 4 13:19:36 2003:

I am happy because I'm mensa certified

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#107 of 673 by gelinas on Fri Jul 4 13:24:29 2003:

So you are good at taking tests?


#108 of 673 by goose on Fri Jul 4 13:59:22 2003:

And at telling others about it....


#109 of 673 by jor on Fri Jul 4 14:40:13 2003:

        I'm a lifetime member of DENSA

        


#110 of 673 by cmcgee on Fri Jul 4 15:08:47 2003:

One person in fifty (2% of the population) is Mensa-eligible.  If you know
50 people it's very likely that you know at least one person who is eligible
for Mensa.

Given the self-selection on this system, I suspect that the percentage of Grex
BBSers who are eligible for Mensa is greater than 50% of the active
participants.  


#111 of 673 by jmsaul on Fri Jul 4 15:16:31 2003:

Given how low Mensa's standards apparently are, it's probably higher than
that.


#112 of 673 by other on Sat Jul 5 07:14:04 2003:

Now, now, Joe.  Play nice.  Leave the sledgehammer for the REALLY dense.


#113 of 673 by remmers on Sat Jul 5 14:12:36 2003:

I'm over-qualified for Mensa.


#114 of 673 by orinoco on Sat Jul 5 14:17:26 2003:

I'm over-apathetic about whether or not I qualify.


#115 of 673 by jazz on Sat Jul 5 14:53:18 2003:

        Having been to a few of their "shindigs", I can share in your apathy.


#116 of 673 by russ on Sun Jul 6 04:27:35 2003:

I'm amazed how sturdy the model dome has become now that it is
more than half enclosed.  This concept has real possibilities.


#117 of 673 by tsty on Sun Jul 6 07:01:50 2003:

ihb  my brother and i took mom to greenfield village for her 35th birthday
(and 50th celebration of same). mom was a guide at the villag for over
a dozen years.
  
lots has changed, mostly for the better, but the eshibits and
the rides are the same or better.
  
expecially the rides. ford has started to re-manfacture the model A/T <??>
to the original specs with modern techniques.
  
they picked up with the next serial number from the last model (X) that
was built.
  
rode in surry (w/fringe) adn automobile and carousel and several
houses/exhibits.
  
mom had a blast! 
  
 the requisite roses were delivered just as we arrived back
at her place. the world is lloking up, sort of.
  
b-roll was shot also.


#118 of 673 by scott on Sun Jul 6 08:32:25 2003:

Grex (Agora, at least) seems to have a higher intelligence level than 
the 2-3 Mensa meetings I attended.


#119 of 673 by aruba on Sun Jul 6 11:33:10 2003:

IHB I'm Grexing from Japan!


#120 of 673 by scott on Sun Jul 6 12:33:58 2003:

IHB I'm finally back at my brother's house, having survived the Kongsberg
Jazzfestival.


#121 of 673 by slynne on Sun Jul 6 15:23:50 2003:

Wow. You folks are just hopping all over the world!


#122 of 673 by russ on Sun Jul 6 17:32:34 2003:

About to head off to a party.  Should be a fun afternoon.


#123 of 673 by eskarina on Sun Jul 6 19:46:17 2003:

re 119:  What are you dong in Japan?

re 118:  You're telling me that entire items of "I'm number 100!  Joy, wood,
log!" are more intelligent than mensa meetings?  oi.


#124 of 673 by jazz on Sun Jul 6 20:39:31 2003:

        I have to agree with Scott.  The MENSA groups I've attended were full
of bright and hardworking (to the point of being boring) people, but very few
true geniuses.


#125 of 673 by janc on Sun Jul 6 21:23:12 2003:

I've never done anything with Mensa, but I suppose Mensa favors people
who are good at taking tests and who want to meet other people like them.
Good, but not a formula for an exciting evening.  Grex also attracts
geeks, but on-line at least, it also selects for people who have a
certain ability to say something interesting, or at least type something
interesting.  This gives the Grex a bit of an edge up.  Not that big a
one.  Grex gatherings aren't exactly the nations most sought after social
venue either.  Probably the Mensa test should include an oral portion:

(1) You have three seconds to come up with a witty response to this
    question.

(2) You have three seconds to come up with a charming compliment for this
    member of the opposite sex.

(3) Go out in the street and engage a total stranger in conversation.

OK, I'd probably flunk that test too.  Still, it would select for a set
of people who were more fun at parties.  Maybe it could be an either/or
thing.  People could get in based either on traditional IQ, or on
social IQ.  Then at least you'd have a few people to lubricate gatherings.


#126 of 673 by jazz on Sun Jul 6 21:35:10 2003:

        (1)  Just three seconds?  This is MENSA, not sex.

        (2)  That's an incredibly attrctive IQ you have.  No, really.  It makes
me curious as to whether you're really intelligent as well.

        (3)  I hate it when that happens!  Oh, dear, no, go 'way ...

        While #1 is fairly well-covered, and I think that many GREXers would
be able to do it (it took me about ten, but then you'd have more than three
seconds in real life as it would take longer than three seconds just to say
you have three seconds to respond), I find it fascinating that #2 and #3 are
things that a lot of people know, but very, very few know consciously.  Try
to find a written example of either in literature or a portrayal in scripted
television or movies that isn't awkward or completely unrealistic.

        Fodder for another item if anyone else is interested in one of my
favourite rant topics.


#127 of 673 by mary on Sun Jul 6 22:06:42 2003:

People who show up to parties and leave feeling bored out
of their minds are usually people who brought nothing to 
the party but the expectation they'd be entertained.


#128 of 673 by mary on Sun Jul 6 22:17:35 2003:

I'm ever so happy the power was on and the skies cleared in time
for a gathering we had last night.  Lots of wine and little candles,
friends and family.  They all brought along a sense of humor, their
outrageous opinions, and thick skin.  How wonderful.



#129 of 673 by gregb on Sun Jul 6 23:47:17 2003:

Re. #125:

1) "Um, what was the question?"

2) "That's a very symetrical navel you have, my dear."

3) "'Scuse me, but you've got dog poop on your shoe."

How'd I do?


#130 of 673 by jazz on Mon Jul 7 00:00:30 2003:

        Re #127:
        
        While it's true that there are a lot of people out there who expect
to be entertained, and they usually have little to offer in the way of
entertainment themselves, you're more likely to run into them at a MENSA
"shindig" than at a non-MENSA party, in my experience.

        The whole equasion is more complex than the reduction that you are
amused in porportion to the amusement you give.  Even professional comics tire
of working to amuse others and give in to the urge to let someone else
entertain for part of the evening.  It's best when there are several people
entertaining, and no one really has to work at it.


#131 of 673 by jaklumen on Mon Jul 7 00:24:54 2003:

resp:125 #1: That seems to be a statement, not a question.

#2: I admire your sense of style in those snappy clothes you're 
wearing today, and I'll bet you have the conversation to match it.  
Care to test my theory over a quiet dinner somewhere?

#3: Good morning, wonderful weather we're having, aren't we?  Perfect 
for a swim.

I'm not sure what that was supposed to prove, but there you go.  It 
was fun.


#132 of 673 by slynne on Mon Jul 7 15:00:41 2003:

I dont know, you can be the most socially adept person in the world and 
still be bored at a party. Of couse a *really* socially skilled person 
would never let on that they were bored and would try to liven things 
up. 


#133 of 673 by tod on Mon Jul 7 16:38:45 2003:

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#134 of 673 by gregb on Mon Jul 7 18:25:54 2003:

What's "Dark Porter?"


#135 of 673 by tod on Mon Jul 7 18:39:13 2003:

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#136 of 673 by jiffer on Mon Jul 7 18:57:05 2003:

IHB I had a fantastic weekend with a few friends that I have no seen in 
7 or so years.  Wow.


#137 of 673 by gregb on Mon Jul 7 19:58:12 2003:

IHB I just found out I'll be going camping this weekend in the Northern 
LP with my best buds and a bunch of other con-goers.


#138 of 673 by tod on Mon Jul 7 21:24:33 2003:

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#139 of 673 by gregb on Mon Jul 7 21:30:03 2003:

Don't remember the name of the city.  The campsite will be on private 
property.  It's a yearly event the owners throw to celebrate their 
anniversary.  It's about 100 miles from the UP.


#140 of 673 by eskarina on Mon Jul 7 22:32:44 2003:

IHB they fixed the AC in my dorm room (but not in this library, apparently).


#141 of 673 by jep on Tue Jul 8 02:14:04 2003:

Had a wonderful evening swimming with my son this evening.


#142 of 673 by keesan on Tue Jul 8 08:22:23 2003:

When did dorm rooms start having air conditioners?
My elementary school used to let the boys take their ties off when it got
really hot.


#143 of 673 by michaela on Tue Jul 8 16:50:54 2003:

IHB I had a wonderful Fourth of July weekend with the boy and his friends.


#144 of 673 by mooncat on Tue Jul 8 19:23:39 2003:

IB_ had a fun 4th with the Beau, the Roomie and a couple of the 
Roomie's friends from college. had a great view of the Lansing 
fireworks from their 7th floor apartment- also got to see all the 
illegal fireworks the surrounding neighbors had. The official (and 
unofficial) shows filled the majority of the sky. Was cool. The next 
day the beau and I went to visit my parents- and much fun was had. My 
dad was telling the beau about someproperty he and my mom used to own 
near Interlochen- that I only had a vague memory of and was quite happy 
to learn more about it (though I really wish they had kept the 
property, two lots on a lake).

IAHB- I have the best roomie, yesterday was a rather bad day for me and 
she went all out to help make me feel better and take my mind off of 
what was worrying me.


#145 of 673 by eskarina on Tue Jul 8 22:58:31 2003:

re 142:  Probably when people with respiratory problems who would need one
in order to get ill started suing.  MSU has one dorm with AC, and all other
dorms you need special (usually health related) permission to bring in your
own air conditioner.

Chicago is strange that way.  Several of their schools have air conditioning,
even the poorer ones.  Mine does not, which was annoying for a few days last
week when it was actually 83 degrees at 7:45 am and only got hotter.

I don't mind the heat, but the students really do, and life gets rougher for
all of us if the students are cranky because its hot.

on another note, IHB my "supervisor" came to observe me teach today and was
impressed.  I'm also starting to think about how hard it will be to go back
and live in Michigan after having spent some time in a city as exciting as
Chicago.  Especially, living in Holt after having spent time in a city as
exciting as Chicago.  Just going back for the weekend felt strange in some
ways.  Ann Arbor just seemed so... small.  Bordering on rural.

Hey, Chicago even has neat grexers!  :)


#146 of 673 by scg on Wed Jul 9 01:54:38 2003:

Well, do you have to go back to Michigan?


#147 of 673 by coyote on Wed Jul 9 03:00:45 2003:

IHB I went to a lovely musical gathering tonight.  Featured performers were
Ever Will You Get There, Jacob Danziger, and Ben Bracken.  The first two
performances were outdoors, and when it started raining we all moved indoors.
Popsicles and blueberry cake and brownies and juice were enjoyed by all.


#148 of 673 by orinoco on Wed Jul 9 05:18:23 2003:

I went to school with Jake Danziger.  He was quite a good musician back in
high school.  Good to hear he's still at it.


#149 of 673 by gregb on Wed Jul 9 15:28:22 2003:

Mmmmmm...Brownies!  B-)


#150 of 673 by eskarina on Wed Jul 9 18:32:11 2003:

The name Jake Danziger sounds familiar... did he go to MYA or would I have
seen him at Pioneer?

Re 146:  Yes, I have to go back to Michigan (Holt, in fact) for student
teaching in the fall.  I'm actually really excited about student teaching in
Holt... they have a discussion based math program and only use the textbooks
as rescources...


#151 of 673 by orinoco on Wed Jul 9 21:19:11 2003:

He might have gone to MYA.  He went to Community, and he definitely hung out
with a bunch of the old MYA kids there.


#152 of 673 by michaela on Wed Jul 9 23:40:18 2003:

Mmmm... mostaccioli and a lovely letter from the boy.  It's a good night. 


#153 of 673 by ea on Thu Jul 10 03:27:37 2003:

I seem to remember Jake Danziger at Tappan ... but I could be wrong.  (I 
also could be thinking of a brother?)


#154 of 673 by scott on Thu Jul 10 07:24:00 2003:

Found the brewpub here - the Oslo Mikrobryggeri.  Great beer, especially the
Weissen.


#155 of 673 by jep on Thu Jul 10 12:29:11 2003:

re resp:150: Some Holt sports history for you... in 1972, Holt went 
through their entire football season without having another team score 
a point.


#156 of 673 by michaela on Thu Jul 10 14:40:47 2003:

We just found the perfect apartment, and it's unbelievably affordable.  We
still have a few more to look at, but we filled out an application before we
left.  :)


#157 of 673 by furs on Thu Jul 10 16:48:47 2003:

I'm happy cause I just got back from my awesome vacation. :)


#158 of 673 by fitz on Thu Jul 10 18:34:45 2003:

IHBB my ex-wife is loaning me a monitor whilst mine is in the shop, waiting
for exotic parts to arrive from China.  


#159 of 673 by mary on Thu Jul 10 18:46:03 2003:

"Ex-wife"??  Is this an earlier marriage or are you
suddenly single?


#160 of 673 by dcat on Thu Jul 10 20:06:05 2003:

resp:157 :  i'm not sure coming back from a vacation would make me happy,
but whatever floats your boat. . . .


#161 of 673 by scott on Thu Jul 10 20:23:06 2003:

Went for a nice run this evening - down to the fjord shore, through some hilly
woods much like Bird Hills.  


#162 of 673 by russ on Thu Jul 10 21:59:24 2003:

Got a data dump running, and I should have my new box fully loaded
with my old files shortly.


#163 of 673 by jules on Thu Jul 10 23:49:27 2003:

im happy cause i love my job at the health club. i get paid to work out
everyday. and i love being a swim team coach. and i love being back in school.
im gonna be a teacher. and i love my new house. 


#164 of 673 by dcat on Fri Jul 11 01:14:03 2003:

IHB after three weeks in California my parents are finally (probably) coming
home on Tuesday.


#165 of 673 by jep on Fri Jul 11 03:19:30 2003:

I'm happy because my t-ball team did pretty well at tonight's 
scrimmage, and also (by the way) seemed to really enjoy themselves.


#166 of 673 by michaela on Fri Jul 11 04:00:31 2003:

IHB my boy just said, "I love you," for the first time.  :)

(Attn: smartasses - not the first time EVER.  The first time to ME.  :-P )


#167 of 673 by jiffer on Fri Jul 11 04:13:35 2003:

IHB I may be going to see Radiohead in October if I can snatch up tickets...
of course half the office may be going as well. 


#168 of 673 by gelinas on Fri Jul 11 04:19:49 2003:

IAHB the lecture I really didn't want to give is in the past.  I survived,
and others seemed to learn something.


#169 of 673 by polytarp on Fri Jul 11 05:14:15 2003:

I know I did.


#170 of 673 by gelinas on Fri Jul 11 05:19:29 2003:

So, what is a snow, polytarp?


#171 of 673 by polytarp on Fri Jul 11 06:03:24 2003:

I didn't learn that part.


#172 of 673 by russ on Fri Jul 11 12:07:10 2003:

Now IHB Julie has graced us with her presence again.  WB, Jules!


#173 of 673 by lynne on Fri Jul 11 15:46:37 2003:

re 166: hmmm.  You've unintentionally given me some food for thought there.:)


#174 of 673 by jep on Fri Jul 11 19:41:54 2003:

My 7 year old passed level 4 swimming classes in Tecumseh.  This 
involves 25 yards of front crawl, 25 yards of back crawl, and a list of 
other tests.  He took the class a previous time and didn't quite pass 
it; he took it again and passed.

Way to go, Spud!


#175 of 673 by edina on Fri Jul 11 19:45:11 2003:

That's awesome!

I am both bummed yet happy because I had a bitch of a fight with my ex-husband
today, but we both calmed down enough to back off, let it lie for a while and
were able to tell each other to have a nice weekend.  Exhausting, but it's
nice that we can both rise above.


#176 of 673 by beeswing on Fri Jul 11 20:32:59 2003:

IHB I feel optimistic. Hmm. 


#177 of 673 by lynne on Fri Jul 11 21:09:00 2003:

IHB it's *finally* Friday...and revisions are complete, pending supervisor
approval.  <sigh>  I can't believe a simple communication--two pages inf
JACS--can possibly take this much work.


#178 of 673 by other on Fri Jul 11 23:14:07 2003:

tomorrow is my first full day off work since 6 or 7 june.  yay!


#179 of 673 by orinoco on Sat Jul 12 02:09:19 2003:

IHB I'll be spending the next two weeks at the summer retreat program at the
Zen temple.  This came together literally at the last minute; I was pretty
sure I'd gotten my application in too late, but they called this evening
asking if I'd be able to come and start tomorrow morning.  Time to go do
laundry...


#180 of 673 by other on Sat Jul 12 02:16:59 2003:

Today I got my hands on the forms I need to be included in the next 
edition of the Michigan Production Guide, a reference for filmmakers 
looking for crew in Michigan.


#181 of 673 by senna on Sat Jul 12 04:56:36 2003:

I had a very pleasant evening browsing cars downtown, eating dinner, and
sitting in Borders reading with Tracy.  It's nice just to sit and read with
good company.


#182 of 673 by other on Sat Jul 12 20:09:10 2003:

i just pulled out and pitched my tent for the first time in almost two 
years and it is happily unmoldy, weather-worthy and ready for use!  :):)


#183 of 673 by fitz on Sat Jul 12 21:19:26 2003:

>#159  I'm still in marriage number two.  My ex-wife and I are still friends,
but most of the email we exchange concerns our kids and a few odds and ends
on the personal end, present and past.  She told me to keep the loaner
monitor:  It was one of three orphans in her duplex and, she said, she was
looking to reduce some of the clutter.

Thus, IHBB my ex-wife is kind and generous and I have a spare monitor in my
house now that my regular monitor has come back from the shop.


#184 of 673 by mary on Sat Jul 12 21:53:06 2003:

I'm happy because of fitz's answer. ;-)


#185 of 673 by anderyn on Sun Jul 13 01:37:59 2003:

IHB we went to the Saline Celtic Festival today.


#186 of 673 by glenda on Sun Jul 13 01:41:14 2003:

IHB because STeve, Staci, and I worked communications for the Ann Arbor
Bicycle Touring Society's 27th annual One Helluva Ride.  This was Staci's
first public service event as a Ham Radio Operator.  Fun was had by all, at
least until...see the bummed item.


#187 of 673 by rcurl on Sun Jul 13 02:37:24 2003:

IHB, despite the Ann Arbor's News dire weather prediction for the day,
it turned out to be a lovely sunny, breezy day at the Nature Conservancy's
Erie Marsh Preserve, where we sounded the depth of the Great Sulphur Spring
to be 16.9 meters. 


#188 of 673 by russ on Sun Jul 13 04:02:54 2003:

Twit filters to the rescue...


#189 of 673 by eskarina on Sun Jul 13 06:01:34 2003:

IHB I had a fun night with Carson and Allida.... I was pleasantly suprised
by Pirates of the Carribean being quite a good movie.

McDonalds gave me a $6.50 off admission ticket to it for being an employee,
which is the reasons I was suprised.  This is the first time ever that
McDonalds has given me something that wasn't shit.  


#190 of 673 by scott on Sun Jul 13 06:18:33 2003:

Woke up somewhat early, made sourdough biscuits for the first time in many
years.  I'm still at my brother's and their daughter had gotten some sourdough
starter as some kind of project.


#191 of 673 by russ on Sun Jul 13 15:16:17 2003:

IHB the SRI anonymous FTP server is back up.


#192 of 673 by lynne on Sun Jul 13 17:57:06 2003:

Determined hunting at outlet malls paid off--I am now the proud owner of 
a lovely dinner service for four, in the dansk scandinavian clover pattern,
for under $50.  Conversing with boy later in evening, it was discovered that
between us, we now have 4 sets of china (in possession or promised) between
us.  And therefore 1. he needs to pray that the set his aunt has earmarked
for him doesn't have flowers on because the rest of them do and 2. when we
get around to getting married and registering and stuff, we can go straight
to registering for corvette tires--y'know, *useful* stuff. :)


#193 of 673 by gelinas on Mon Jul 14 15:46:15 2003:

IAHB the weekend at the sailing club was lovely, even though there was too
little wind to sail yesterday.

Pitched the tent Friday evening and came back yesterday.  Sailed once,
I think, after pitching the tent, taught a few lessons Saturday morning,
hung around Saturday afternoon, enjoyed a pick-up barbecue, got (mostly)
caught up on the club's books, played cards, made s'mores, sailed by the
light of the moon, sailed Sunday morning before the powerboats made it
impossible, and watched son-chan do some fiberglass work.

A fun weekend.


#194 of 673 by scott on Mon Jul 14 15:54:57 2003:

Yesterday took a little old ferry boat from Sandvika to a small island in
Oslofjord, hung out & swam for a couple hours with the family.  Hope those
photos turn out - beautiful day.


#195 of 673 by polygon on Mon Jul 14 16:25:32 2003:

I'm happy because I finally got the new version of my web site online.

       http://PoliticalGraveyard.com/

It's the first complete new version since August 2002.  I have added
more than twelve thousand politicians, for a new total of 119,675.


#196 of 673 by keesan on Mon Jul 14 16:39:32 2003:

Since Saturday I have been able to walk without my rib hurting (which it has
been doing for a couple of months) and I just managed to sleep an hour because
both upstairs neighbors are back to work.  I may celebrate by walking along
the river.  Not much chance of swimming this year as I have to gain back 10
pounds before I will have the energy to travel that far.  You get to
appreciate the little things after a while.


#197 of 673 by mooncat on Mon Jul 14 16:57:05 2003:

IHB- in about an hour I leave to go spend the evening and tomorrow with 
the Beau. This after having a wonderful 'roomie weekend' Things are 
good.


#198 of 673 by michaela on Mon Jul 14 17:56:38 2003:

IHB I've been spending more time in Caro than Kalamazoo.  This makes the
long-distance relationship tolerable.  Since I tend to spend 4-5 days
here and 2-3 in K-Zoo, it feels more like a weekend relationship with
K-Zoo than Ken.  :)

IVHB Jessica and I are signing the lease on our dream apartment
Wednesday.  I can't get over how cool this place is.  There's a long
description of it at http://www.livejournal.com/users/saltatoria


#199 of 673 by twenex on Mon Jul 14 19:03:47 2003:

IHB I got up on the right side of the bed today, I'm having a chinese for
dinner, and GREX is up again. Also, GREX will soon be moving to new hardware!
Yay! And yay!


#200 of 673 by remmers on Mon Jul 14 19:30:27 2003:

IHB I'll be spending a loooong weekend at the Rocky Mountain Ragtime
Festival in beautiful Boulder, Colorado.  Lotsa great music and mountain
scenery.  (Bummed that I'll have to miss the Grex birthday picnic,
though.)


#201 of 673 by gelinas on Mon Jul 14 19:38:07 2003:

(I hadn't realised you were a cannibal, twenex.  Or is #199 just TMI?)


#202 of 673 by jep on Mon Jul 14 20:00:48 2003:

My son and I visited my parents who are camping west of Alpena, MI 
(Avery Lake, between Lewiston and Atlanta).  While there, they took us 
on an "elk hunt".  The area has several herds of elk and we went 
looking to see them.  We spotted 9 elk; 3 females with 2 babies, then 
shortly later, 4 young males.  Male elk and female elk run in different 
herds.

An elk seems about 5 times bigger than a deer.  I don't very often see 
wild animals that large.

My son was fascinated by the elk, and refused to let his grandfather 
drive on until the elk had moved out of our range of vision.


#203 of 673 by anderyn on Mon Jul 14 20:12:25 2003:

IHB I got t go to the Saline Celtic Fest and we saw "Pirates of the Caribbean"
and I get to go to Art Fair. Life is okay.


#204 of 673 by russ on Mon Jul 14 22:12:16 2003:

The tar file size and md5sum checks all pass.  The Second Great Serial
File Move is a success.  Here's hoping it's the last.

And NO SPAM IN MY MAILBOX TODAY!


#205 of 673 by beeswing on Tue Jul 15 04:26:39 2003:

Oh happy day.

I had an interview with a school a month ago. Didn't get the job. 

So the principal of the school calls today and says the person they
picked flaked out on them. I was their second choice, so am I still
interested?

Yikes! Will be signing the contract in the next week or so.

I'm a teacher. Whoa.


#206 of 673 by eskarina on Tue Jul 15 04:40:08 2003:

Dude.  Congrats... where will you be teaching?


#207 of 673 by scott on Tue Jul 15 05:14:32 2003:

Congratulations, bees.


#208 of 673 by dcat on Tue Jul 15 07:05:12 2003:

Congratulations.


#209 of 673 by remmers on Tue Jul 15 12:56:35 2003:

Congrats from me as well.  Welcome to "the system".


#210 of 673 by lynne on Tue Jul 15 14:22:07 2003:

Congrats, bees!
IHB I managed to download a couple of Daria episodes that are not among the
batch currently being shown on cable.  They were everything I hoped they'd
be. :)


#211 of 673 by gelinas on Tue Jul 15 14:29:48 2003:

Yah, beeswing!  :)


#212 of 673 by beeswing on Tue Jul 15 15:15:44 2003:

Gracias!

I'll be teaching at a Catholic school. The classes will be coed. Maybe
they'll issue me a ruler too. While my beliefs aren't entirely in line
with Catholic teachings, I can check my politics at the door from 8 to
3. This school doesn't seem to be too hardcore.

I'll get to post a website on my classes too! Woot!


#213 of 673 by rcurl on Tue Jul 15 17:07:10 2003:

What subject(s) and ages will you be teaching?


#214 of 673 by michaela on Tue Jul 15 17:08:19 2003:

Congratulations, bees!  :)


#215 of 673 by tpryan on Tue Jul 15 18:00:58 2003:

        The nuns at my Catholic school didn't need rulers, they had
their Rosary beads to whack kids with.
        ....taught me everything I needed to learn here in the 12th century.


#216 of 673 by slynne on Tue Jul 15 19:02:53 2003:

IHB because I got a phone call last night from my friends Dermot and 
Angie. Other than the occasional email, I havent heard from them in 
years.  We are going to go swimming on Friday. That is going to be 
totally FUN!


#217 of 673 by russ on Tue Jul 15 21:47:06 2003:

Way to go, Trisha!  Hope this means everything starts looking up.


#218 of 673 by jaklumen on Wed Jul 16 01:05:41 2003:

cool beans, bees.


#219 of 673 by beeswing on Wed Jul 16 05:02:27 2003:

8th grade English, 7th grade History, and one section of 8th Intro to
Latin. 

The notion of a steady paycheck is very comforting, I must say.


#220 of 673 by polytarp on Wed Jul 16 05:07:59 2003:

I work at a Catholic school.  But there aren't any nuns there.


#221 of 673 by tsty on Wed Jul 16 07:55:02 2003:

oihb .. the atark raving madrigals are singing at fart aire' wednesday
starting at 7pm-ish on the library steps on the diag.
  
and . ... we will be sporting our new t-shrts (i had nothing t do with 
theese but they are kewl anyway -  tom petiet did the art).
  
oh, that is s/atark/stark .. from above.

y'all come & listen.


#222 of 673 by beeswing on Wed Jul 16 08:18:42 2003:

fart aire?


#223 of 673 by remmers on Wed Jul 16 13:22:17 2003:

Re #220:

  Question:  How many nuns teach at your school?
  Answer:    None.

(The devil made me post this...)


#224 of 673 by twenex on Wed Jul 16 14:21:52 2003:

Congratulations, beeswing.

Remmers - "The System"? Remmers, the Master Control Prof. I'm sure I've seen
"sark" login here sometime, too, or was that on The Other One?

resp. #223 sounds like my sense of humour is rubbing off on you, remmers. Be
afraid, ppl; be very, very afraid.



#225 of 673 by michaela on Wed Jul 16 16:44:09 2003:

IHB I got my Trogdor t-shirt in the mail, and I'm signing my lease tonight.
Yay.  :)


#226 of 673 by other on Wed Jul 16 16:45:01 2003:

re #224: Oh, no worries.  Remmers' sense of humour is a well established 
phenomenon.  All appropriate precautionary measures are already in place.


#227 of 673 by scott on Wed Jul 16 21:49:15 2003:

I'm back in Ann Arbor, after a very boring return trip from Norway.


#228 of 673 by beeswing on Wed Jul 16 22:17:08 2003:

snort.

No nuns, though there is a church connected to the school.


#229 of 673 by jaklumen on Wed Jul 16 22:50:09 2003:

resp:225  Trogdor?  Wow, www.homestarrunner.com is getting around.  
That game is sweet.  Burninate!


#230 of 673 by russ on Wed Jul 16 23:12:32 2003:

All kinds of stuff is falling together nicely.


#231 of 673 by keesan on Wed Jul 16 23:19:51 2003:

We spent a few hours at art fair.  Almost no smokers but the barbecue fumes
were pretty bad.  Nice and cool and breezy in the shade.  Jim found two pairs
of 'sandals' to wear outside instead of slippers, for $6 total.  He wanted
to look at baskets.  We found ceramic baskets, wood baskets, various other
turned wood products somewhat resembling baskets, and finally some ash baskets
from Maine selling for as much as I have earned this year before taxes.


#232 of 673 by rcurl on Wed Jul 16 23:23:35 2003:

That's because they are ART, not just baskets.


#233 of 673 by keesan on Wed Jul 16 23:26:01 2003:

This particular model used to be made by the native americans and sold for
use picking potatoes.


#234 of 673 by rcurl on Wed Jul 16 23:38:36 2003:

But they crossed the Ann Arbor border...that changed them to ART.


#235 of 673 by slynne on Thu Jul 17 00:46:40 2003:

IHB I just met a couple who are trying to buy the house next door. They 
seem really cool. They love dogs, dont mind barking, think creeping 
charlie is ok, and seem just like the mellow sort of people who will 
fit right into this neighborhood. They are grad students at UofM. They 
havent closed on the house yet and have some conditions that they need 
met before they do. Just little things like a furnace. Hopefully, the 
people who own it will get that stuff taken care of in time. If all 
goes well, they will be moving into it in 30 days. 


#236 of 673 by gelinas on Thu Jul 17 03:09:55 2003:

I've seen Mister Zeh's baskets, but I always missed the demonstration of his
labours.  Yeah, when you start with a tree, a basket can get expensive.

After a few hours at the Sailing Club booth on Liberty, I wandered the Art
Fair on North U/Thayer/Washington/Ingalls Mall, catching part of pot-throwing
demonstration.  Good stuff.


#237 of 673 by tsty on Thu Jul 17 05:49:25 2003:

the stark raving madrigal singers did their amazing performances
tonight in front of four different crowds - and raised a whole *dollar*
for the continuation of our scofflaw performances.
  
doubles the treasury!
  
had a real blast! then off to washtenaw dairy for ice cream repast.
  
gotta luv it
!


#238 of 673 by scott on Thu Jul 17 09:52:06 2003:

I'm still a bit jetlagged and therefore up before 6am, but I did discover that
I'd thoughtfully left myself a day or two worth of the good tea.  I was
dreading trying to get down to the coop during Art Fair.

And after about a month and a half I've actually got a place to myself for
a bit.  That's *really* nice.


#239 of 673 by gull on Thu Jul 17 13:44:16 2003:

Re #225:
o/~ Burninating the countryside / Burninating the peasants... o/~

Heeheehee.


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#241 of 673 by lynne on Thu Jul 17 17:13:37 2003:

Feeling much better after calling in sick yesterday.  While I was not
technically horking up my innards, I *was* asleep for about 26 of the past
30 hours, which leads me to conclude that there really was something 
wrong with me.  (beyond the usual, that is! :)
Oh--IHB my communication was accepted with no further do-si-doing :)


#242 of 673 by scott on Thu Jul 17 18:50:48 2003:

17" LCD monitor, yum.  

Plus we spent some time at the store trying to figure out whether it was
wall-mountable, concluded that it didn't seem to be officially supported but
physically possible.  Then I leafed through the instruction book after getting
home and found a couple pages of instructions for attaching the (optional)
wall bracket.  (The keyword, it turns out, is "VESA".  Some kind of mounting
standard)


#243 of 673 by gull on Thu Jul 17 20:11:28 2003:

VESA makes a lot of standards relating to monitors.  There are
VESA-standard video modes, as well.


#244 of 673 by michaela on Thu Jul 17 22:55:45 2003:

Re #241 - sometimes, even if you aren't technically sick, your body will force
mandatory rest so you DON'T get sick.  After all that school and work, I'm
sure your brain and body needed the rest.  :)

IHB I get to see my dad tomorrow, and we're going to pick up my new car. 
Shortly after he leaves, my boy will arrive for the weekend.  I can't get much
happier than this.  :)


#245 of 673 by other on Fri Jul 18 00:19:34 2003:

I've actually drawn rough plans for the major parts of the cargo carrier 
I'm designing for my bike.  It will allow two minimally modified .50 
caliber ammunition cans to be mounted securely (and locked at the same 
time) using only one small padlock.  

Now, I just need to design the additional module which will lock onto the 
back to secure my hiking pack and sleeping bag.


#246 of 673 by jaklumen on Fri Jul 18 04:03:01 2003:

resp:225, resp:239  Strong Bad: "Swished you, peasantie."

My only question:  The website said that t-shirt was "coming soon"-- 
so how'd you get it?


#247 of 673 by michaela on Fri Jul 18 04:21:23 2003:

Weird.  I ordered it just a week ago.  What size are you trying to get?


#248 of 673 by beeswing on Fri Jul 18 05:55:47 2003:

Met with the school president today. Was offered a higher salary than
I'd anticipated. They will mail my contract to me. I saw my classroom.
Small, but lots of windows. I can't wait to put in plants and posters
and such. There's a big crucifix above the (dry erase!!) board, but I
can handle that.

I'll be meeting with the other jr high teachers on Monday, which will be
cool. 

Now if I could stop being somewhat terrified....


#249 of 673 by rcurl on Fri Jul 18 13:50:34 2003:

Keeps you on your toes....


#250 of 673 by janc on Fri Jul 18 13:57:06 2003:

(Oh, yea, dry erase!  When I used chalkboards I used to get covered in dust.
I'd cut through the carpeted office on the way to my mail box after classes,
and leave a trail of white chalk footprints behind me.  With dry erase not
only is it easier to teach in technicolor, but you get to get high on the
fumes, which I think generally improved my teaching (there was generally
plentiful room for improvement).)

As a student I was always terrified to get in front of a class to talk, but
even from my first day of teaching, I just loved it.


#251 of 673 by mynxcat on Fri Jul 18 14:01:05 2003:

Chalk board is a lot more fun. You can't make those screeching noises 
with a dry-erase pen


#252 of 673 by michaela on Fri Jul 18 15:33:18 2003:

Bees - it sounds wonderful. Dry erase boards rock for those of us with
allergies and dark clothing.  :)


#253 of 673 by keesan on Fri Jul 18 17:49:16 2003:

There are some really smelly markers designed for these boards (the smell made
me sick) and some others that don't smell at all (water-based?).


#254 of 673 by jiffer on Fri Jul 18 22:37:49 2003:

IHB I get to see Radiohead in October!  Woohoo! RADIOHEAD! yeah!

IAHB two of the three people who are acting as my references let me see them
before they mailed them off, and I didn't ask.  Sweet! 


#255 of 673 by jor on Sat Jul 19 00:16:49 2003:

        But breathing chalk dust is terrible.

        


#256 of 673 by jaklumen on Sat Jul 19 02:49:15 2003:

resp:247 not ordering it yet-- on a budget.  But did you see if they 
had XXL or 3XL?  I'm also wary of white T-shirts...


#257 of 673 by jep on Sat Jul 19 15:02:10 2003:

I took the day off yesterday, intending to go to the Art Fair.  
However, when we talked about it, my son and I decided to go to 
Michigan's Adventure, an amusement park in Muskegon with roller 
coasters and a water park.  We got there at 11 (opening) and stayed 
until closing (9).  Oh, man!  We had a *great* time.

Michigan's Adventure is owned by the people who own Cedar Point.  It 
doesn't have as many or as large of roller coasters as Cedar Point, 
but that was fine with me.  I don't like them that much anyway.  It 
does have several, including one called the Corkscrew which we didn't 
go on.  It has a mile-long wooden coaster called Shivering Timbers; we 
didn't go on that one either.  We went on the rest of them.

We spent most of the day in the water park, playing in the several 
wave pools, riding on the many types of water slides, and generally 
having a great time.

One ride I have to mention... it's called Ripcord.  It's an extra cost 
item; $30 for one person, $20 each for two, $15 for three.  It's a 
bungee drop from an enormous metal tower.  It wasn't something I 
wanted to do, but each time someone else did it, I and everyone else 
stopped what they were doing to watch.  For $16 extra you can buy a 
video of your plunge.

Once we were inside Michigan's Adventure, I found my son is going to 
Cedar Point and Soak City with his mother for the weekend.  So he's 
going to have a pretty exciting weekend all together.


#258 of 673 by scott on Sat Jul 19 16:55:11 2003:

Got myself a nice little shortwave, and right now I'm listening to some cool
salsa-type music with Spanish announcements.  From a quick Google it looks
like I'm picking of Voice of America.


#259 of 673 by mooncat on Sat Jul 19 17:21:46 2003:

Congrats Trisha!

IHB- I'm spending the weekend with the Beau, and shortly we're heading 
north to attend a wedding- and I'll get to hang out some more with his 
way cool daughter.


#260 of 673 by michaela on Mon Jul 21 00:30:48 2003:

Jaklumen - go here - http://shop.store.yahoo.com/homestarrunner/trttrexla.h
tml


#261 of 673 by gelinas on Mon Jul 21 01:12:24 2003:

IAHB a traffic light is being installed at Liberty and Wagner, replacing a
four-way stop.  I walked around that intersection this evening; the new roads
look good.  I hope they are finished soon.


#262 of 673 by jaklumen on Mon Jul 21 03:04:41 2003:

Thanks, Sarah.  I could really use a black tee, so I'll look into it.


#263 of 673 by edina on Mon Jul 21 15:56:23 2003:

IHB I had a fun trip home - and speaking of Cedar Point, the pilot on Thursday
said, "We're passing over Sandusky, OH, to the left side of the plane".  I
was sitting on the left and started looking and was able to see Cedar Point
from the air.  Way cool!


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#265 of 673 by anderyn on Mon Jul 21 16:55:35 2003:

IHB I had lunch with my favorite boyfriend -- Griffin. He is such a joy to
see during the week. (I have him on one weekend day, so seeing him during the
week is a lovely extra.) He blew me a kiss while they were leaving. Such a
sweetie.


#266 of 673 by michaela on Mon Jul 21 21:55:32 2003:

IVHB they're re-designing one of the most dangerous intersections in
Kalamazoo.  Too bad it took 130 accidents and a car-train death to get around
to it.  :-P

IAHB I think I did fairly well on my American Lit midterm.


#267 of 673 by glenda on Mon Jul 21 23:36:07 2003:

IHB so far this semester I have an A in Earth Science and an A- in Calculus
I.  I will really have to blow it to lose A's in Composition and Interpersonal
Communications.  Now if I can just continue the roll when I get to EMU in
September...


#268 of 673 by scott on Tue Jul 22 15:28:53 2003:

Finally settled down to calling some contacts I'd been given before vacation,
and ended up spending about 20 minutes on the phone with one guy (another
sound company in Cleveland).  Got some pretty useful info on the state of the
business, etc, also sounds like somebody I'd want to work with.


#269 of 673 by scott on Tue Jul 22 19:29:51 2003:

Got the DVD burner!  Mandrake 9.1 installed very nicely, although I'm still
trying to get the Nvidea network controller to work (weird driver situation).
Going to try RedHat 9.0 first and see what that does.


#270 of 673 by lynne on Tue Jul 22 20:37:43 2003:

Hmmm.  Nothing like writing up a resume to give you a sense of
accomplishment.  


#271 of 673 by senna on Tue Jul 22 21:24:25 2003:

#261:  I'm happy they're putting a light in that intersection as well.  it
needs it, badly.  However, the traffic hangups it creates are a major pain
for me, since it directly affects my travel to and from my (current) house.


I'll get about a month or so with the new light until I leave town.  Figures,
everything improves as I leave. :)  

I had a great weekend in Toronto.  My dad's family threw a party for Tracy
and I, and we received all sorts of "slightly used" gifts we can use around
the house, including a surprisingly large number of items from my deceased
grandmother and great-grandmother.  I'm the first person in the family to get
married from my generation, and they're quite excited about it.  It was nice
for Tracy to get to know them a bit outside of the funeral setting, where she
met most of them for the first time.


#272 of 673 by russ on Tue Jul 22 21:24:34 2003:

Saturday morning, rescued a rataan sofa (Hudson's/Marshall Field label)
in pretty good shape that someone stuck by the dumpster, dropped it at
Salvation Army.  One less thing to wind up in the landfill.


#273 of 673 by scott on Tue Jul 22 22:13:44 2003:

Re 271:  Married!???!!  When did that come up?


#274 of 673 by beeswing on Wed Jul 23 02:38:27 2003:

IHB I have power and home phone service again. MAJOR storm this morning.
They aren't calling it a tornado but it did just as much damage. I had
no cell or land phone service OR power for 14 hours-- and I am lucky to
get power back. All the traffic lights are blown out. Trees are uprooted
everywhere.

re: way back there... Yeah, I LOVE dry-erase. I'd previously taught with
chalkboards. Was always covered in dust, but the worst part was how the
chalk dried out my hands. No matter how much lotion I'd use, I'd end up
with cracked, bloody cuticles. 

Ditto on the "I hated talking in front of class but loved it when I
became a teacher" thing. Not sure how my students feel about my
yammering in front of them, though.

Watched 'Dead Poets Society' tonight. God, I love that movie.



#275 of 673 by beeswing on Wed Jul 23 02:40:50 2003:

... and Senna would be interested to know that the FedEx Forum-- the new
Memphis Grizzlies arena that is under construction-- was heavily
damaged. Part of the arena may collapse. The three 500-ft cranes are
twisted and also may collapse, so Beale Street and downtown have been
evacuated. 


#276 of 673 by scott on Wed Jul 23 12:47:05 2003:

Yikes, glad you're OK.


#277 of 673 by beeswing on Wed Jul 23 13:17:15 2003:

Yep. I heard the storm rolling through but no tornado sirens, so I fell
back asleep. Was around 5:00 AM or so. When I woke up again three hours
later, the power was still gone. That's when I found out how bad it had
been.

The city is in a state of emergency. Driving sucks because most of the
traffic lights are blown out. Or blown off. There's trees split in half
or uprooted everywhere.


#278 of 673 by scott on Wed Jul 23 15:03:45 2003:

Got the binary-only NVidia network drivers to work on the new computer.  I'm
Grexing from it right now!


#279 of 673 by russ on Thu Jul 24 03:51:18 2003:

IHB I finally arrived at an answer to a nagging question:  68.8 degrees.


#280 of 673 by edina on Thu Jul 24 14:49:32 2003:

IHB the fundraiser I threw yesterday for the women's shelter that the
secretarial group supports went over really well.  Everyone liked the food,
people brought TONS of stuff and everyone seeme to have fun.


#281 of 673 by tod on Thu Jul 24 16:42:56 2003:

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#282 of 673 by mooncat on Thu Jul 24 18:12:12 2003:

IHB- I actually have a job interview. Wow.


#283 of 673 by lynne on Thu Jul 24 18:21:35 2003:

IHB I have cheap direct tickets to meet up with boy in Milwaukee in a couple
of weeks.  Plus, venue means a chance to see a friend I haven't seen in
nearly a year--not to mention going shoe shopping with her! :)


#284 of 673 by senna on Thu Jul 24 21:09:11 2003:

Scott, I mentioned something about it in announcements a couple of months ago,
I think.  We never saw that much action on our cranes, by the way...



#285 of 673 by gelinas on Thu Jul 24 22:13:10 2003:

IAHB I've submitted my entry to the Observer's Fake Ad contest.


#286 of 673 by other on Fri Jul 25 04:08:16 2003:

IHB today I got an auto-darkening welding helmet and a sleeping bag which 
compresses into a size small enough to fit comfortably into my saddlebag 
and still leave room for more stuff.


#287 of 673 by gelinas on Fri Jul 25 04:49:10 2003:

IAHB the pillar of smoke I saw from Maple Village was NOT the building grex
is housed in.


#288 of 673 by michaela on Fri Jul 25 05:51:05 2003:

IHB tomorrow is my last day in this house.


#289 of 673 by polytarp on Fri Jul 25 08:54:46 2003:

IHB it feels good.


#290 of 673 by russ on Fri Jul 25 11:27:22 2003:

Got a tedious job halfway done.


#291 of 673 by scott on Fri Jul 25 12:03:10 2003:

Went up to E. Lansing yesterday, hung out with a couple old college
housemates, met their 3 kids and three new cats, and ate dinner at El Azteco.


#292 of 673 by jep on Fri Jul 25 12:33:16 2003:

We had our last t-ball game yesterday.  My team was a great bunch of 
kids, with a great bunch of parents.  They all improved a lot through 
the season, and I had a great time being their coach.


#293 of 673 by fitz on Fri Jul 25 18:32:47 2003:

IHB my annual colony of sand wasps is up from last year.  Go Sandwasps!  Kill
dem earwigs!


#294 of 673 by keesan on Fri Jul 25 18:41:44 2003:

We got an email from someone we met in the Milan area last summer on a camping
trip.  Jim set her up with grex email which she is still using, but she says
the 1987 computer he set her up on is now taking 5 minutes to boot and can
he fix it?  It has a built-in 2400 bps modem.  Her brother also left her a
newer computer but no keyboard for it so Jim will bike out there with a
keyboard and lots of software and a camping mat and have a two-day summer
vacation without me.  Internal modem, external modem (2 each, 1400 bps),
procomm plus, kermit.  Maybe we can foist a printer on her.  She now has 9
sheep and lots of colored chickens.  A complete stranger who flagged us down
and gave us his yard to sleep in, use of his hose, towels, and a very nice
breakfast sent us to meet her.  She is 'alternative'.  We saw her neighbor's
vegetable stand made from a silo.


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#296 of 673 by keesan on Fri Jul 25 21:06:20 2003:

I don't know - probably at one time.  She used to run sort of a commune there
in some rather shoddily built structures, but her main interest now seems to
be returning farmland to trees.  Jim will have more to report in a week or
two.  (He is leaving the middle of next week open in case his daughter, who
will be in town from England, has time to spend with him.)


#297 of 673 by lynne on Fri Jul 25 22:51:03 2003:

Subgroup is over, marking end of hellish week.


#298 of 673 by gelinas on Sat Jul 26 04:26:14 2003:

IAHB I finally fixed a client's problem with Eudora hanging while opening
on Win98 machine.  It seems the problem was caused by an automatic update
feature of RealOne player.  I renamed the file "realsched", and Eudora
started working again.


#299 of 673 by keesan on Sat Jul 26 17:42:51 2003:

Jim made a nice batch of humus, with organic lemon rind.  He also bought me
an avocado.  He is trying to help me gain weight.


#300 of 673 by gelinas on Sun Jul 27 01:23:36 2003:

IAHB Anthony's makes good pizza.  More filling than I expected, too.


#301 of 673 by eskarina on Sun Jul 27 03:27:29 2003:

IHB a high school friend of mine made a day trip to Chicago to visit me today,
with his 3 year old daughter.  We had a really fun time walking around
downtown just hanging out, and we went to some places I hadn't gone yet.  I
found a book in Borders that I'm excited about reading... its called "Four
Colours Suffice", and its about the "proof" of the Four Colour Theorem, which
I've always found interesting.  

Other people see a 3 year old girl and say "Oh, how cute!".  I sit down at
the table in the restaurant, take several coffee creamers, and ask "How
many?", and after she counts, rearrange them and ask again.  In spite of all
the other fun stuff we did, I have to say that this game was the highlight
of my day.

We also took the orange line all the way until it ended and back, and had a
good conversation whilst Lily slept.  And we talked about both of our curious
fascinations with the movie "1776", which our history teacher showed us in
class many years ago and we now both own more than one copy of.  Its a bad
movie.  We still love it.  Thanks, Mrs. Dahl.  :)


#302 of 673 by jep on Sun Jul 27 04:14:14 2003:

My son and I had a nice time at my maternal-side family reunion today 
in Harrison.  The weather started out rainy but then turned 
beautiful.  The worst of the drunks and low-lifes stayed away, and the 
rest of us had a wonderful time.


#303 of 673 by russ on Sun Jul 27 08:43:53 2003:

Got a friend moved quite successfully and relatively smoothly yesterday.


#304 of 673 by michaela on Sun Jul 27 19:10:05 2003:

IHB we're all moved into our new apartment, and it already feels like home.
IVHB I'm getting Gomez back from my friend today. They were keeping him during
my month-long vacation and moving preparations.


#305 of 673 by katie on Sun Jul 27 21:43:13 2003:

Yikes, Sindi, please don't eat humus! Worms poop in there!


#306 of 673 by jep on Mon Jul 28 02:01:15 2003:

Hummus.  Heh.


#307 of 673 by jep on Mon Jul 28 02:45:25 2003:

I went swimming in Lake Erie for the first time ever today, at 
Sterling State Park.  Lake Ontario is now the only Great Lake in which 
I have not swam.

Sterling made Lake Erie seem different than the others.  For one 
thing, the bottom is covered with small shells and with an almost 
slimy sand.  For another, I could see what I took to be the Fermi II 
nuclear power plant to the north, and a Ford factory to the south.  I 
didn't like it nearly as much as I do the gorgeous sand beach found 
almost all the way around Lake Michigan.

I used the opportunity of the two factories to explain to my son why 
there are so many factories near lakes and rivers.  When I was a kid, 
I could watch factory waste being dumped into the Grand River several 
times per day, where it was assumed it would disappear without a trace 
and without harm.  Except by then, anyone who could read was well 
aware that the waste was causing *great* damage and didn't disappear 
at all.  Action to remedy this was a liberal triumph and I presented 
it to my son as one.

Anyway, it was nice to have been in my 4th Great Lake.  


#308 of 673 by keesan on Mon Jul 28 03:15:33 2003:

I washed my hair for the first time in two weeks after washing a week's worth
of dishes to empty the kitchen sink.  The bathroom is still around 60 (ground
temperature) and I did not want to heat it because the heat rises into the
apartment which is about 80.  It is really nice to have clean hair.  Last time
I showered I ran upstairs with teeth chattering to dry off.


#309 of 673 by happyboy on Mon Jul 28 08:09:26 2003:

/ducks as slynne and cyklone stampede


#310 of 673 by anderyn on Mon Jul 28 12:16:14 2003:

IHB my friend Linda had a birthday party yesterday, and we had three little
ones there -- Katie, at three and a half, Griffin at 16 months (this week),
and Miles at nearly five months (next week).  It was much fun, even though
it ended up segregating among gender lines after a while -- the men went to
play Munchkin and the women stayed in the living room and watched babies and
The Dark Crystal video. 


#311 of 673 by scott on Mon Jul 28 13:09:55 2003:

Finally got the Linux recording app compiled and running - I've got a new toy
to play with now!  Plus I documented the whole installation, so next time it
should be fairly straightforward.


#312 of 673 by edina on Mon Jul 28 16:02:45 2003:

Saw Bon Jovi in concert last night.  When did Jon get so hot?  It brought "Lay
Your Hands On Me" to a whole new level.


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#314 of 673 by happyboy on Mon Jul 28 16:50:31 2003:

ihb i'm leaving town friday for the mt baker area
to avoid nascar...er, i mean SEAFEST.


#315 of 673 by slynne on Mon Jul 28 16:52:56 2003:

Are you going camping? That sounds fun :)


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#317 of 673 by happyboy on Mon Jul 28 18:52:44 2003:

wife rented a cabin for the weekend up off of hiway 20
going hiking, drinking beer watching the sky.


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#319 of 673 by dcat on Mon Jul 28 19:17:09 2003:

ihb my parents discovered some savings bonds that my grandmother'd bought for
me when i was a kid, so we might actually be able to afford to send me to
college after all. . .


#320 of 673 by michaela on Mon Jul 28 20:47:08 2003:

Dcat - that's wonderful!  What do you plan to study?

IHB the furniture arranging is going better than planned, and when I woke up
I noticed that my roomie had unpacked and organized the entire kitchen. 
*boggle*


#321 of 673 by happyboy on Mon Jul 28 21:21:49 2003:

re318: have fun!  me and the family were up there a cupple
months ago...perty.  then we wend to leavenworth...ugly.  :)


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#323 of 673 by happyboy on Mon Jul 28 22:33:51 2003:

did you stick around for the rotisserie pork-hocks?


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#325 of 673 by lynne on Tue Jul 29 00:57:10 2003:

IHB I'm sneaky.  :)  While most of the rest of the lab is meeting at 7:30
am Wednesday to drive down to our advisor's house on the Vineyard, my 
carload and I will be happily still asleep at my friend Emily's place in
Woods Hole (just across from MV).  I think we may be the only ones that
are sort of looking forward to this party.  


#326 of 673 by jaklumen on Tue Jul 29 01:44:12 2003:

resp:312 Jon Bon Jovi looks much better with the cropped mane.


#327 of 673 by michaela on Tue Jul 29 04:42:11 2003:

IHB the boy called me tonight.  God I miss him...


#328 of 673 by gelinas on Tue Jul 29 05:24:39 2003:

IAHB sailing on Lake Erie was fun.  We took a friend's Catalina 27 from
Anchor Point to the Toledo Light and back.  Saw some herons and other birds
(including cormorants, possibly) on the light's island.  A nice afternoon
for a sail.


#329 of 673 by edina on Tue Jul 29 14:24:38 2003:

Re 326  I could not agree more on Jon Bon Jovi's hair.  


#330 of 673 by beeswing on Tue Jul 29 15:56:47 2003:

I just mysteriously found a whisker that belonged to my cat that passed
away. 

Sigh. Maybe one of those weird things that lets me know he's OK?


#331 of 673 by rcurl on Tue Jul 29 16:51:15 2003:

IAMH because I made minimum first bid on item on e-bay - and "won". Easy
when no one else wants what you do (at asking price, at least).



#332 of 673 by keesan on Tue Jul 29 18:29:08 2003:

What did you want?

I am happy because I got ten hours sleep (7 before the garbage trucks started
and three in the afternoon) despite messing up my rib again.  And Jim made
some really good ground-rice pudding.  And it was cool enough at night to get
my apartment down to 68.  The basics.


#333 of 673 by scott on Wed Jul 30 00:43:02 2003:

Drove up to Frankenmuth and had dinner with clees.


#334 of 673 by eskarina on Wed Jul 30 02:23:14 2003:

Clees is in the states?  Where and for how long?


#335 of 673 by gelinas on Wed Jul 30 04:28:45 2003:

Drove up to Frankenmuth and spent a couple of hours with clees before scott
showed up.

He's cycling across the USA (more or less: cutting across Canada from Michigan
to New York, with at least one and I think he said two ferry trips, one across
Lake Michigan and another across Lake Champlain).

He's leaving Frankenmuth in the morning and continuing east.


#336 of 673 by jaklumen on Wed Jul 30 04:43:46 2003:

resp:332 68 degrees would make me happy, too.  The landlady's husband 
and a buddy came over with the new AC unit.  Finally getting some 
relief...real relief...


#337 of 673 by krj on Wed Jul 30 05:43:37 2003:

The serpentine belt on my car broke.
 
An odd selection for the happy item, perhaps, but:  (1) Now I know what was 
causing the car's mysterious symptoms, and it's not likely to be an expensive
repair.  (2)  It broke on the drive to the car repair shop; it was an exciting 
few minutes trying to finish the last few miles as the temperature needle
crept upwards, and fighting with the power-less steering.


#338 of 673 by scott on Wed Jul 30 14:03:01 2003:

(handy car tip:  turn the heater on full blast in that situation)


#339 of 673 by other on Wed Jul 30 14:20:30 2003:

???


#340 of 673 by other on Wed Jul 30 14:21:46 2003:

Keeps the engine cooler by removing much of the heat to the passenger 
compartment while the radiator fan is not being driven by the broken 
belt?


#341 of 673 by jiffer on Wed Jul 30 14:29:13 2003:

Eric, yes!  And if you have the a/c on, the car has to work harder to 
cool the air to get to you.  


#342 of 673 by slynne on Wed Jul 30 14:29:41 2003:

IHB Yesterday was a Good Day

First I went to work and fixed some hard problems. I always like that. 
It makes me feel all smart and stuff. In this case, someone turned a 
computer off by accident and tons of files became corrupted. I have 
been hunting them down like a lion after a herd of zebras. RAWR!

Then I got to take off at 12:30 and head up to the lake. I had a blast 
even though no one could come with me since they all had to work *ha 
ha*. I swam for a while and threw the ball into the lake a hundred 
times just so I could watch my dog jump off the dock. I love doing 
that! Then, after the old dog got tired and went back to the house 
(where my mom let her in), I got out the kayak and took the young dog 
for a boat ride. There is a creek that goes off the lake and we went as 
far as we could before it got too shallow. It is nice because there are 
just woods on either side of the creek. I saw all kinds of wildlife. I 
almost caught a turtle! 


#343 of 673 by michaela on Wed Jul 30 16:21:30 2003:

Re #338 - I've performed that trick a few times. Unfortunately, my water pump
died in the summer, so I had to drive to the repair shop with the heat on full
blast during 90-degree weather.  :-P

IHB my roommate and I saw "Pirates of the Caribbean" last night. It was
wonderful, despite some of the cheesy lines.  :)
IAHB I'm going to surprise my boy with a visit tonight. He doesn't think I'm
coming until *next* weekend. 


#344 of 673 by rcurl on Wed Jul 30 16:23:15 2003:

If the water pump isn't working, how is the water circulated to the heater
to be cooled? I would think it would not do much good, then.


#345 of 673 by mynxcat on Wed Jul 30 16:50:34 2003:

Re 343> Sometimes surprise visits turn out BAD!


#346 of 673 by keesan on Wed Jul 30 17:10:05 2003:

I envy slynne.  I wish I had a lake nearby.


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#348 of 673 by slynne on Wed Jul 30 20:00:04 2003:

#346 - You live closer to the lake my parents live on than I do. I am 
just willing to drive my car up there. And isnt that the magic of the 
automobile? It changes ones perception of distance.


#349 of 673 by goose on Wed Jul 30 20:08:17 2003:

RE#346 -- I have never confirmed this, but in Michigan you're supposedly never
more than 6 miles from a lake.


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#351 of 673 by happyboy on Wed Jul 30 20:32:34 2003:

r348: *chuckles*


#352 of 673 by keesan on Thu Jul 31 01:53:22 2003:

I am 12 miles (at least) or 1 hour 45 minutes from the nearest swimming lake,
unless you count Horseshoe Lake which is private, muddy, and really full of
stinkboats.
There was supposed to be some new county park 9 miles east of here but a
couple of years ago we biked there and could not find anything.  It is a very
nice route.

There are lakes at Stinchfield Woods and Botanic Garden, not swimmable.


#353 of 673 by goose on Thu Jul 31 03:19:48 2003:

What's a stinkboat?   


#354 of 673 by other on Thu Jul 31 03:56:15 2003:

344: convection currents...


#355 of 673 by russ on Thu Jul 31 04:01:07 2003:

Re #338:  The "turn on the heat" trick works for an overheating
car because the water pump circulates hot coolant through the
heater core, from which the heater fan can extract heat and send
cooler fluid back to the engine.  This probably will not help if
the serpentine belt is broken and the water pump is not turning.

Click and Clack's rerun last weekend had a caller whose borrowed
minivan flashed the oil pressure light, leading to recriminations.
One of the things they said was that one CANNOT drive with the oil
pressure warning light on; one should shut off the engine immediately.
This is only slightly less applicable to a lack of water circulation
through the engine.  Ken may have toasted his engine.

I just dodged that bullet.  The bearings in my power steering pump
were worn out and the pulley was wobbling.  Had that gone to the
point where it chewed up the serpentine belt...

Re #340:  Not an issue; the Taurus fan is electric.  The issue of
the fan motor draining the battery while the broken belt cannot
turn the alternator is different. ;-)


#356 of 673 by gelinas on Thu Jul 31 04:17:46 2003:

(A fuel-to-noise converter, goose.)


#357 of 673 by other on Thu Jul 31 04:48:59 2003:

Discovery has asked me to come and work on the new hardware which 
replaces the stuff that was stolen.

I may have too much work to get out of town on schedule!  (I might wish 
for problems like this...)


#358 of 673 by charcat on Thu Jul 31 07:17:33 2003:

I'm happy because I picked up my first batch of michigan sweet corn today at
ruligs farm....mmmmmm


#359 of 673 by keesan on Thu Jul 31 07:28:02 2003:

A stinkboat is a water-borne noisemaker that smells like a power mower but
much more intense.  Sometimes they are known as jet skis.  Other boats also
stink but the ratio of stink to size is lower.  At Independence Lake they go
in endless large circles around the lake leaving the whole beach stinking and
the water covered with oil.  I hope the new park does not allow them.


#360 of 673 by happyboy on Thu Jul 31 08:21:22 2003:

i hate those things.


#361 of 673 by mynxcat on Thu Jul 31 12:39:05 2003:

I've never noticed a smell associated with jet-skis. I like those 
things


#362 of 673 by slynne on Thu Jul 31 14:22:42 2003:

I have ambivilent feelings for jet skis. On the one hand, they *are* 
fun. On the other hand, they are dangerous, make a lot of noise, 
pollute the lake and stink. 


#363 of 673 by other on Thu Jul 31 14:33:30 2003:

They now have four-stroke versions which are quieter, less stinky, and 
less polluting.  They're not yet predominant.


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#365 of 673 by michaela on Thu Jul 31 18:52:00 2003:

Mynx - he was happy I surprised him.


#366 of 673 by mynxcat on Thu Jul 31 19:36:09 2003:

That's good. It wouldn't have worked out that happy in all 
circumstances.


#367 of 673 by lynne on Thu Jul 31 23:17:20 2003:

IHB I had a great mini-roadtrip with labmates to advisor's house on Martha's
Vineyard yesterday.  


#368 of 673 by rcurl on Fri Aug 1 06:51:18 2003:

You drove to Martha's Vineyard? I didn't know they've built a bridge. 8^}
(I've only sailed there.)


#369 of 673 by lynne on Fri Aug 1 13:48:19 2003:

 ;P  We drove down Tuesday night to Woods Hole and stayed with my friend
there overnight, then took the ferry.  Steve wanted us there by around
noon, so most of the group met at MIT at 7:30 a.m.  I *don't* do mornings;
was most pleased to have an alternate plan that didn't involve getting up
that early.


#370 of 673 by edina on Fri Aug 1 14:49:09 2003:

IHB I had a great date last night and I'm off for Phoenix for the weekend.


#371 of 673 by mooncat on Fri Aug 1 18:02:25 2003:

IHB- I actually have a job! Starting Monday I'll be working QA for a 
mortgage company. 

IAHB- I'm going to celebrate my new employment with my fabulous roomie 
later this weekend and celebrating tonight with my beau (after Ispend 
time with the kitties at Zimmer). :)


#372 of 673 by gelinas on Fri Aug 1 20:30:57 2003:

Congratulations, mooncat!


#373 of 673 by russ on Fri Aug 1 20:54:07 2003:

Home early, got manifold ready to re-install, have an excuse to
buy a new tool to boot.


#374 of 673 by keesan on Fri Aug 1 21:50:26 2003:

Jim is happy that he will never again wait around his house just because his
daughter is in town and said she would visit.  A few times two weeks ago,
Tuesday evening and Wed. morning when she said she would be free ('free' meant
she had completely scheduled the day and wanted him to tour farmer's market
with her) and then 'Friday morning'.  She is leaving by plane some time this
evening and in three hours or so he will have proved to everyone that she does
not want to visit him.  She has not visited him (at his house) since she and
her mother moved out 20 years ago.  He will never again hang around waiting
for her to show up when she said she would.  She always calls and leaves
messages in mid-afternoon because she knows he is not there then.  She never
calls the two numbers on his answering machine (well, almost never, just once
she called here when she wanted her baby carriage fixed in a hurry).  Her
fiance said they would 'absolutely' visit to say goodbye.  Maybe it will be
a 5 minute goodbye.  In 3 hours Jim will be a liberated man.  Some people's
parents do not teach them manners (or honesty).  His son at least always
called ten minutes after he was due for supper to let us know his mother was
making frozen fish sticks so he could not come (or McDonalds).

Jim did at least get to see the kids at his sister's house in Warren (Detroit
area).  He was given half an hour notice about the trip.

He has been cleaning his house up all week for the visit.


#375 of 673 by jaklumen on Sat Aug 2 03:54:37 2003:

Well, I got my new insurance identification cards, and should be able 
to wave that portion of the ticket when I show it to the cashier at 
the courthouse.  Now, perhaps about going to court...


#376 of 673 by jaklumen on Sat Aug 2 03:56:31 2003:

Oh yes, almost forgot.  Attended my first practice with the Tri-
Cities, WA Guitar Society.  It was a mixed bag; a lot of the pieces 
were a little hard for me to sight read straight up.  But this will 
improve my playing.


#377 of 673 by beeswing on Sat Aug 2 04:00:39 2003:

Congrats Anne!

Picked up my contract and iBook today for work. Inservices begin next
week. Things are looking up.


#378 of 673 by mary on Sat Aug 2 13:22:58 2003:

Good news, Anne!


#379 of 673 by beeswing on Sat Aug 2 14:26:17 2003:

Oh yeah, and my birthday is Monday. Celebration began last night with
Chinese food. Today is my nephew's birthday (three already-- sigh-- I
remember announcing his birth on Grex) and his party is tonight. Cake
and Thomas the Train, oy.


#380 of 673 by jep on Sat Aug 2 16:41:24 2003:

resp:374 describes pretty well my greatest fear in life; losing 
contact with my kids.


#381 of 673 by michaela on Sat Aug 2 18:06:41 2003:

IHB the boy is at a LAN party, which means an entire day to sew my costume
for his birthday party.


#382 of 673 by naftee on Sat Aug 2 19:23:13 2003:

A LAN party? I hope they're doing some creative hacking.


#383 of 673 by keesan on Sat Aug 2 20:01:33 2003:

Jim is happy that he got to spend 5 whole days waiting around his house and
he got things a lot more organized (such as removing the thick layer of things
all over the floor and bed and putting them in their proper places, putting
flannel shirts in a box and getting out the short sleeved versions).  You
would not understand unless you saw Jim's house.  Usually I do this for him.
He is learning to put his own clothes away!  Now you can actually walk into
the room without stepping on a tent.


#384 of 673 by janc on Sat Aug 2 20:08:54 2003:

It's not "Thomas the Train", it's "Thomas the Tank Engine".  You gotta
get these things right, or every three or four year old in the country
will know you are a poser.

If you actually want to impress preschoolers, it helps to know what the
heck a "Tank Engine" is.  Or was.  Larger steam engines pulled tenders,
which contained the extra fuel (coal or wood or whatever) and water (to
boil in the boiler and make steam) that they need to travel long
distances.  But the smaller engines, used on shorter hauls didn't have
tenders.  This makes them easier to manuever when switching freight cars
around the yard. Instead, they'd have a small "bunker" at the back of
the engine to carry coal in and a "tank" to carry water in.  The water
tank usually straddles the boiler, so the considerable weight of the
water would be centered over the engine's wheels, giving it improved
traction.  So "Thomas the Tank Engine" has two box-like things on either
side of his boiler while Percy has a larger cylinder enveloping the rear
part of his boiler.  These are their water tanks, from which they get
the name "tank engine".


#385 of 673 by beeswing on Sun Aug 3 04:03:37 2003:

Yeah.




I know Thomas, Clarabell and Percy. I know there's many more. I do know
George Carlin narrates for the videos.

He had Percy on his cake (done in icing). He requested Percy. When we
started cutting the cake, he demanded that we "don't cut Percy!". So we
ate around him. Percy was for the most part left intact.


#386 of 673 by janc on Sun Aug 3 14:06:17 2003:

Some are narrated by George Carlin, other by Ringo Starr.


#387 of 673 by edina on Sun Aug 3 14:35:14 2003:

Phoenix is beautiful.  The sky is so *blue*.  The stars are so bright.  I've
gotten some sun, done some swimming, made a birthday cake for my friend (in
the shape and decor of his favorite Nascar driver's car, no less) and today
I am spending the day with one of my best friends, seeing the sights.


#388 of 673 by slynne on Sun Aug 3 15:10:18 2003:

My favorite "sight" in Phoenix is Camel Back Mt or whatever it is 
called. One time, when I was in Phoenix, some kids started a brush fire 
on it. We were at some place called 'The Phoenecian' so we were right 
by it. It looked cool. 


#389 of 673 by scott on Sun Aug 3 15:10:51 2003:

Philly is pretty cool - it's been hot, humid, and rainy, but it's actually
a pretty nice city.   Sort of a cross between Boston and San Fransisco, and
the people have been really nice.


#390 of 673 by russ on Sun Aug 3 20:13:08 2003:

Great music on The Listening Room this morning.


#391 of 673 by jiffer on Sun Aug 3 22:00:26 2003:

IHB I purchased a microbiology text book for $50 less, brand new, no taxes,
and only $5.00 for shipping from New Zealand. I love the internet.


#392 of 673 by gelinas on Mon Aug 4 03:41:43 2003:

IAHB the CD conversions charcat did for me as part of the grex auction came
out very well.  I've been listening to stuff I've not heard in decades.


#393 of 673 by jaklumen on Mon Aug 4 04:24:15 2003:

Happy Birthday in advance, Trisha... mine was today.  Julie made me a 
lemon cake with yellow frosting and red icing, complete with 29 
candles (plus one to 'shrink' on-- my wife's humor).  My maternal 
grandparents sent a card and a check.  (In case you wonder about my 
paternal ones, well, I'm sure they are wishing well from the other 
side.)  My parents gave me more stuff they needed to get rid of for 
the move-- suitcases, towels, and an apron that hooks on a dress shirt 
button; plus a bread machine and a new vacuum that we were needing 
badly.

Dinner was good; I asked for fajitas, so it was chicken fajitas.  
Chicken with red and green bell peppers, and a salad with red and 
yellow pear tomatoes, and red onions.  Before we ate, I commented how 
wonderful the yellow pear tomatoes were-- they gave us some from their 
neighbors, and my parents informed me that I could call the Joneses 
(their neighbors) for more banana peppers that I had been enjoying as 
well, which was good news.  They made for tasty salads and scrambled 
eggs, so I could always use more.  Banana peppers are mild, which is 
too bad, but they are still tasty.


#394 of 673 by michaela on Mon Aug 4 05:13:51 2003:

Re #382 - they played Urban Terror and Worms.  :-P

IHB I had a really nice weekend with the boy, his friends, and his family.
Now I'm giving my kitty much-deserved snuggles.


#395 of 673 by charcat on Mon Aug 4 06:29:54 2003:

I'm happy that gelinas is pleased with the cd =^o.o^=


#396 of 673 by beeswing on Mon Aug 4 15:21:01 2003:

re 393...Thanks! Birthday vibes to you too.

31 today. Oy. Low key day. I plan to eat whatever I want and in any
amount I want. 

Gifts have included candles, picture frames, a mini battery powered TV
and  cold hard cash.


#397 of 673 by tod on Mon Aug 4 16:28:04 2003:

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#398 of 673 by michaela on Mon Aug 4 16:41:47 2003:

Happy birthday, Trisha!


#399 of 673 by other on Mon Aug 4 17:33:47 2003:

The fortuitous delivery of some equipment for WUOM's new studio to my 
home resulted in the possibility of more work in the fall.


#400 of 673 by gelinas on Mon Aug 4 21:08:15 2003:

I'm curious why WUOM equipment would be delivered to you.  Care to share?


#401 of 673 by beeswing on Mon Aug 4 22:19:43 2003:

Merci, Sarah :)


#402 of 673 by jor on Mon Aug 4 23:37:03 2003:

        maybe it was delivered FOT.


#403 of 673 by other on Tue Aug 5 00:14:03 2003:

I reside in the apartment most recently formerly occupied by my friend 
Bob Skon, the chief engineer at WUOM.  For some unknown reason, when UPS 
was unable to deliver the equipment to Argus, they delivered it here...


#404 of 673 by scott on Tue Aug 5 00:31:36 2003:

Happy birthday, Bees.


#405 of 673 by gelinas on Tue Aug 5 01:15:13 2003:

"Fortuitous," indeed. :)


#406 of 673 by keesan on Tue Aug 5 01:40:33 2003:

I called for a doctor's appointment and was told there was a 3 week wait.  I
called back and asked if there was something sooner - yes, 2 weeks, in
Brighton.  There is not even a bus to Brighton.  I called a couple of hours
later and someone had just cancelled for tomorrow morning.


#407 of 673 by vidar on Tue Aug 5 02:07:00 2003:

IHB today's my birthday.

IAHB I now know that the ring the girl I have a crush on wears is not 
an engagement ring.


#408 of 673 by polytarp on Tue Aug 5 02:20:04 2003:

Just ask the girl if she wants to fuck.  Don't be coy; you're not Japanese.


#409 of 673 by beeswing on Tue Aug 5 03:47:49 2003:

Thanks Scott.

You say it's your birthday, vidar? It's my birthday too. 



#410 of 673 by jaklumen on Tue Aug 5 05:35:15 2003:

resp:396 What kind of candles?  Happy birthday, vidar.


#411 of 673 by anderyn on Tue Aug 5 14:24:07 2003:

It's Gareth's birthday. He's twenty today. 


#412 of 673 by other on Tue Aug 5 18:29:50 2003:

Thanks to a suggestion from mdw and a few days of muddling through 
manuals and tutorials, I'm now beginning to develop scripting skills in 
Tcl.

This is REALLY going to ease my transition to OS X.  :):)


#413 of 673 by vidar on Tue Aug 5 21:47:10 2003:

Re # 408: The ring's meaning is "You ain't putting that in there unless 
we're married."  It's not like I'm some teenager who sees women as sex 
toys.


#414 of 673 by jep on Wed Aug 6 02:00:40 2003:

I returned today from 3 days at Cub Scout camp with my son.  Among 
other things, he got his first pocket knife at camp.


#415 of 673 by gelinas on Wed Aug 6 02:02:45 2003:

The Whittling Chip! Yah.


#416 of 673 by scott on Wed Aug 6 02:55:50 2003:

(sudden flashback to the Simpsons "junior campers" episode)


#417 of 673 by jep on Wed Aug 6 17:26:55 2003:

re resp:415: I saw one kid (from another pack) throwing his knife at 
trees or the ground as he was walking along.  I stopped him and 
reminded him he wasn't supposed to throw his knife.

"But it's a lock blade knife," he told me.  "It's a throwing knife."  

I whipped out an extra Whittling Chip card I had, and showed him where 
it says he agreed never to throw a knife.  The rules allowed me to take 
a corner from his Whittling Chip card at that point, but I didn't.  He 
wasn't throwing it near anyone else.  He obviously didn't know he was 
doing anything wrong, and was surprised I'd spoken to him about it.

Anyway, anyone who knows boys or has been one knows darn well the kid 
is going to throw his knife.  You cannot be a boy with a knife and not 
throw it sometimes.  It'd be like logging into the UNIX command line, 
but never using the rm "-f" option.  It can't be done.  But as an adult 
Cub Scout leader, you have to uphold the rules of the Cub Scouts, so I 
did that by talking to the boy.  Probably after I talked to him, he at 
least hid his knife throwing a little better.


#418 of 673 by tod on Wed Aug 6 19:48:04 2003:

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#419 of 673 by bru on Wed Aug 6 21:18:22 2003:

what is the rm"-f" option?


#420 of 673 by gelinas on Wed Aug 6 21:18:55 2003:

<DRIFT>
The Boy Scouts of America (which includes the Cub Scouts) do not accept gay
leaders.  I don't think gay Cub Scouts are an issue; they've probably not
thought about it yet.


#421 of 673 by gelinas on Wed Aug 6 21:20:02 2003:

The "-f" option is 'force' and overrides the absence of 'write' permission
under certain circumstances.

</DRIFT>


#422 of 673 by dcat on Wed Aug 6 21:35:05 2003:

From !man rm:
     -f, --force
          Ignore nonexistent files and never prompt the user.


#423 of 673 by tod on Wed Aug 6 21:36:30 2003:

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#424 of 673 by michaela on Thu Aug 7 00:15:13 2003:

IHB today is my parents' 37th wedding anniversary.
IHB I need to get an 83% or better on my final to keep my "A" in American Lit.
I don't think it'll be a problem.  :)


#425 of 673 by gelinas on Thu Aug 7 00:42:45 2003:

Yes, the Cub Scouts now accept male den leaders.


#426 of 673 by jep on Thu Aug 7 01:30:02 2003:

John's den leader for next year is a guy.  I was a den leader for 
John's brother one year, but was awful at it.


#427 of 673 by tod on Thu Aug 7 04:10:56 2003:

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#428 of 673 by oval on Thu Aug 7 08:50:26 2003:

bruce, man pages are your friend.



#429 of 673 by jep on Thu Aug 7 15:55:17 2003:

No, man pages are a system of documentation installed on Unix machines 
to ensure that no one but those who understand it already learn 
anything about a particular Unix binary.  My understanding is that it 
was not easy to install bear traps in software, to keep users from 
familiarizing themselves with the operating system, and so man pages 
had to be developed instead.  With AIX (IBM Unix), they are part of the 
development kit like the C compiler, further establishing limits on who 
they are for.  


#430 of 673 by tod on Thu Aug 7 18:01:32 2003:

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#431 of 673 by goose on Thu Aug 7 21:21:48 2003:

NPL?


#432 of 673 by tod on Thu Aug 7 22:25:47 2003:

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#433 of 673 by jor on Fri Aug 8 01:25:44 2003:

        *way* too close to home


#434 of 673 by bru on Sat Aug 9 12:37:28 2003:

I just decanted my cherry whiskey, and it is good!  unfortunately, it only
made a fifth and a half.


#435 of 673 by novomit on Sat Aug 9 12:50:25 2003:

Cherry Whiskey? Give me bourbon anyday!


#436 of 673 by russ on Sat Aug 9 13:10:27 2003:

Dropped a couple more pounds, it appears.


#437 of 673 by bru on Sat Aug 9 17:57:22 2003:

what do you thnk I use to make my charry whiskey?  The cheapest bourbon I can
find.


#438 of 673 by scott on Sat Aug 9 18:53:41 2003:

Some wiring work at a local video company (filling in for other -thanks,
Eric!) went well, got asked if I was interested in rebuilding a mobile rack
in the near future.


#439 of 673 by jaklumen on Sat Aug 9 20:48:13 2003:

resp:436 Me too.  I have a nifty little scale that measures fat 
percentage as well as weight, and I've been losing fat, too =)


#440 of 673 by jor on Sat Aug 9 21:26:00 2003:

        which video company?


#441 of 673 by orinoco on Sat Aug 9 23:36:51 2003:

re #434: You mean three-tenths?


#442 of 673 by keesan on Sun Aug 10 23:24:39 2003:

I have some really nice neighbors.  While I was agonizingly making my way the
block between my apartment and the house we are building, sitting down every
50 feet, one of them came and asked if she should call the doctor.  I
explained it was a pulled muscle.  She got me a walker.  Two neighbors from
across the street came to see if they could make the walker taller.  I said
not to bother.  Another neighbor stopped to see if he could make it taller,
and showed me his poison ivy.  Another neighbor stopped to see why I was lying
on the ground.  And Jim made me a nice microwavable heat pad so I could get
more than 15 minutes sleep at a time.  There is one position I can sleep in.
Last time I pulled a similar muscle I had to sit up all night.  Boy am I
lucky.  Back to bed.


#443 of 673 by russ on Mon Aug 11 00:01:49 2003:

Re #439:  How do you get a scale to do that?  I'd love to be
able to distinguish water weight from fat.

Had a great time last night, watching the sky for Perseids.


#444 of 673 by rcurl on Mon Aug 11 00:48:43 2003:

Enjoyed a day at the San Francisco zoo with our 4-year-old granddaughter
today. We hadn't seen her since she was a few months old. 


#445 of 673 by gelinas on Mon Aug 11 02:53:37 2003:

Last night's sailing was fun.  We went out just after sunset.  The winds had
steadied down and were crossing the lake, so we could sail back and forth
along its length on easy reaches.  The wind was out of the north, and the moon
was in the south.  Quite beautiful and peaceful.  The few powerboats on the
lake were moving slowly, so even the wakes weren't bad.

Fun. Fun. Fun. :)


#446 of 673 by michaela on Mon Aug 11 06:53:11 2003:

The boy's birthday party was a wild success, and he got some nifty presents.


#447 of 673 by tod on Mon Aug 11 15:23:14 2003:

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#448 of 673 by lynne on Mon Aug 11 16:47:16 2003:

Just got back from wonderful weekend in Milwaukee with boy :)  Jet skiing,
rollerblading, swimming, going to the zoo with my friend Nicole that I
haven't seen in *forever*, and finished off laughing to tears at "american
wedding."  We have decided that we must acquire a jetski.  :)


#449 of 673 by jaklumen on Tue Aug 12 00:35:30 2003:

yes, Sindi, why were you lying on the ground?  (You didn't say more, 
so...)

resp:443 Tanita makes scales with electrodes on the platform that 
measure the body fat that way.  Unsure how accurate it is, but along 
with the weight reading and some tape measurements, I think you'd have 
a better indicator of real improvement (well, besides getting 
cholesterol and triglycerides checked)


#450 of 673 by polytarp on Tue Aug 12 00:42:17 2003:

R. 442:  Alcohol addiction.


#451 of 673 by scott on Tue Aug 12 02:31:26 2003:

Finally got some sort of fancy collar onto my fancy chainmail shirt.

Ren Fest starts this coming weekend - www.michrenfest.com for details.


#452 of 673 by polytarp on Tue Aug 12 03:11:59 2003:

I MADE CHAINMAIL ONE TIME!!!


#453 of 673 by michaela on Tue Aug 12 03:25:47 2003:

Re #451 - one of the boy's birthday presents was a chainmail cat-o-nine :)


#454 of 673 by polytarp on Tue Aug 12 03:27:49 2003:

DID YOU MAKE IT< SARAH Z?!


#455 of 673 by naftee on Tue Aug 12 05:12:23 2003:

polytarp's chain mail was quite good, actually.


#456 of 673 by krj on Tue Aug 12 05:29:49 2003:

Still floating on a happy cloud of memories after 16 hours at the Great 
Lakes Folk Festival this weekend.  Notes to be entered into the music
conference as soon as I have some time.


#457 of 673 by michaela on Tue Aug 12 06:53:01 2003:

Re #454 - No need to shout... No, I did not make it. His friend made it for
him after he saw us drooling over the chainmail cat-o-nines at Silver Leaf.


#458 of 673 by polytarp on Tue Aug 12 10:32:02 2003:

I wasn't shouting.


#459 of 673 by oval on Tue Aug 12 13:22:15 2003:

REALLY?



#460 of 673 by polytarp on Tue Aug 12 13:58:18 2003:

YES OVAl REally.


#461 of 673 by oval on Tue Aug 12 14:57:35 2003:

oKAY THEN.



#462 of 673 by lynne on Tue Aug 12 15:12:22 2003:

IHB I went to my first tryout (the second of three sessions for this 
organization's recruiting) and was pretty much guaranteed a spot on the
team I wanted.  :)  Tryout was fun too, and now I have that pleasantly
(e.g., very slightly!) sore feeling from a good workout.


#463 of 673 by edina on Tue Aug 12 16:25:51 2003:

Almost done with the medical tests . . .Woo hoo!!!


#464 of 673 by michaela on Tue Aug 12 18:29:08 2003:

Re #458 - Using all-caps is like shouting, and you used all-caps.


#465 of 673 by polytarp on Tue Aug 12 22:01:07 2003:

How is it like shouting?  Do you pronouce the first letter of every sentence,
and often some after, louder than you do the rest of the letters?  You know,
louder enough to be a shout?


#466 of 673 by jaklumen on Tue Aug 12 22:30:06 2003:

What a yutz.  It's a precedent.  When Pavel Xerox and what's-his-face 
were working on the DEFCON project, they decided that text in caps was 
an emote for shouting.  It's held true for the rest of the Internet 
ever since then.  You're pretending you didn't have an inkling of an 
idea, right?


#467 of 673 by polytarp on Tue Aug 12 22:55:25 2003:

Well, I think it's a dangerous precedent:  Just because some kerl said so,
everything in caps is shouting?  Kerl.


#468 of 673 by michaela on Wed Aug 13 00:44:50 2003:

IHB most of my bedroom is unpacked, and the apartment is starting to feel like
home.


#469 of 673 by polytarp on Wed Aug 13 00:55:25 2003:

I don't believe you.


#470 of 673 by other on Wed Aug 13 01:10:12 2003:

The friends I'm staying with in Maine got some good news shortly after I
arrived.  Their son's mother turned herself in to the police after the story
about her kidnapping him was covered on the local evening news, and his dad
should soon be home from going to pick him up.


#471 of 673 by edina on Wed Aug 13 12:13:23 2003:

That's awesome.

I'm happy because I'm getting organized.  I spent an hour and a half last
night winding yarn into balls to get things more cleared out.


#472 of 673 by eskarina on Wed Aug 13 17:56:08 2003:

IHB I just got an email from the office that someone signed for my spot in
the co-op!  Now I only have to pay rent on one house this fall!

IAHB I just had a nice lunch with a friend I've known since middle school.


#473 of 673 by russ on Wed Aug 13 22:14:00 2003:

Testing new modem that just got here today.  Seems to work great.


#474 of 673 by remmers on Thu Aug 14 02:11:59 2003:

IHB I got a root canal today.


#475 of 673 by jep on Thu Aug 14 03:39:26 2003:

I went to the Lenawee County Fair with my son this evening and we had 
a fabulous time.

My son's favorite ride was shaped like a flying saucer and spun the 
riders around the inside rapidly enough that you'd slide to the top of 
the flying saucer.  It also pulled pretty well on my cheeks.  I don't 
know what kind of force it came to, but we were told 34 mph and the 
ride was about 11 feet in radius.

All of the rides seemed pretty fast to me for rides at a county fair.  
I hoped they were properly assembled and not too rusty.  For their 
part, they did have very firmly enforced height requirements for all 
of the rides.  My son did not get to ride on a couple of rides 
requiring riders to be 52" tall.  I guess they were reasonably safe.


#476 of 673 by beeswing on Thu Aug 14 04:31:58 2003:

IHB I was able to buy a $50 bottle of perfume for $13 because all they
had left was the tester. 

IHB school is getting underway. Wish my life would calm down a bit.

IHB a cool band is coming back to town in October.


#477 of 673 by michaela on Thu Aug 14 05:29:37 2003:

IHB I'm staying in town this weekend. Yes, I'm extremely grateful that I get
to see the boy as often as I do, but it really really really really sucks
living out of a suitcase for two months and only spending about 2.5 days at
home before driving 400 miles. :-P  It'll be nice to rest and finish
unpacking.


#478 of 673 by goose on Thu Aug 14 12:18:50 2003:

IHB I'm going to see Iggy and The Stooges tonight.


#479 of 673 by remmers on Thu Aug 14 12:34:38 2003:

And *now* IHB I got a root canal yesterday.


#480 of 673 by lynne on Thu Aug 14 14:41:18 2003:

re 474: ???  Must've been some effective painkillers they gave you?
re 477:  Can he come visit you?
IHB work is going well and I have momentum and energy to get things done.
I'm cautiously optimistic about meeting timeline goals I set for myself--
which will be key to finishing my thesis in a timely fashion. 


#481 of 673 by remmers on Thu Aug 14 15:58:50 2003:

A root canal isn't the world's most pleasant experience, but it
was worth it, considering the monster toothache I had beforehand.
IHB I'm rid of it.

Procedure was almost painless thanks to the anesthetic, and there
have been no painful aftereffects.


#482 of 673 by goose on Thu Aug 14 17:36:28 2003:

Newfangled painkillers (as well as anti-swelling drugs) are great things.
I had all four of my wisdom teeth pulled last year and really felt no pain
or discomfort after the fact....or during since I was sleeping like a baby...a
baby on anethesia.

The painkiller the doctor gave me was Toradol, a NSAID that the doc told me
was many tines the painkilling of Morphine with none of the addictive or
'stoned/spaced-out' effects.  I got an IV loading dose while out and then took
it for a few days after surgery.  Cool stuff.


#483 of 673 by arabella on Thu Aug 14 18:52:01 2003:

I'm happy to be home in the USA.  Travel is great for expanding the 
mind, but 7 weeks is a long time to be away, and I was by myself for the 
last three weeks.


#484 of 673 by drew on Thu Aug 14 20:10:40 2003:

Re #475:
    If those numbers are correct, your kid did slightly over seven gravities.
If the ride lasted two minutes, he withstood it long enough to have reached
orbit.


#485 of 673 by scott on Sat Aug 16 01:49:03 2003:

I'm happy to have power back - almost exactly 24 hours after it went out.

I'm also happy Grex is back up.


#486 of 673 by russ on Sat Aug 16 13:45:46 2003:

Some kids appear to achieve orbit on little more than sugared cereal.


#487 of 673 by ea on Sat Aug 16 14:49:00 2003:

I'm happy to have not lost any food when the power went out.  Also happy 
to be moved into my new apartment.


#488 of 673 by jaklumen on Sat Aug 16 17:19:06 2003:

I am glad Grex is back up, and once I found out about the blackout, I 
figured the downtime was connected to it.


#489 of 673 by lynne on Sat Aug 16 17:22:01 2003:

IHB grex is back up, and because I got some interesting results yesterday.


#490 of 673 by michaela on Sat Aug 16 20:36:43 2003:

Lynne - he didn't have a reliable car until now, but he can't visit because
he's busy every weekend through the end of September.  :-P  So it's on me
until October.  

IHB I've had a nice weekend to myself. I've needed "me" time since May.


#491 of 673 by jep on Sun Aug 17 02:09:51 2003:

re resp:484: Thanks, Drew!  7 Gs for a ride at the fair?  That seems 
like a *lot*.  It didn't last any 2 minutes at that speed, but I'm 
sure either of us could easily have handled it for 2 minutes.


#492 of 673 by jep on Sun Aug 17 02:12:38 2003:

I had Friday off due to the energy emergency, and used it and my time 
this morning to do a lot of cleaning in my apartment.  Despite taking 
it easy (due to the heat) I've gotten a lot done, and it looks better 
than it has for quite some time.  If my enthusiasm (or call it boredom 
if you prefer) holds out through tomorrow, I'll be tackling my son's 
room and will have had one of my most productive weekends ever.


#493 of 673 by remmers on Mon Aug 18 00:02:01 2003:

IHB I spent a lovely weekend at the Classic Ragtime Festival in
Indianapolis.  This year I was conscripted to be lobby pianist
at the Saturday night concert.


#494 of 673 by lynne on Mon Aug 18 14:24:13 2003:

I have a suit!  :)  It's Ann Taylor, black, nice wool weave, single breasted
two-button pantsuit--and the pants are comfortable, which is difficult to
accomplish.  I think my waist is disproportionately large compared to the
model that most clothes designers use.


#495 of 673 by edina on Mon Aug 18 15:07:47 2003:

Well it is Ann Taylor.


#496 of 673 by omni on Mon Aug 18 15:55:32 2003:

  IHB

   I went to Detroit, and didnt get mugged/carjacked. Of course, with what
I drive, no one wants to.

   I had plans of going to the Woodward Dream Cruise. I went, of course, but
could find no place to park for less than $30 bucks. Being ever the cheapskate
I decided a day at Metro Beach was more in line. I hit Meijer for some ice,
and they were the only store with ice. Then I headed for the beach via my
nephews house. While I was there, it began raining very hard. So much for
the beach. I decided then and there that Canada was a better plan.
   On the way, I decided to help out with some weather spotting, so I pulled
over, and found that I was a litte too far over. I wound up stuck in a ditch.
My Canada plans seemed in jeopardy. I used my radio to rustle up some help,
and I found 2 people with SUV's that were willing to come pull my Toyota out
of the ditch. But before they could arrive, several passing motorists stopped
and helped. I was rescuse from the jaws of the ditch and when I offered
payment, they just said that they were there to help. No charge. I was
impressed.
   I then proceeded to the tunnel. Remembering the last encounter with the
Canada Customs, I had all my significant documentation ready, including 
birth cert, ham license, and note from my mommy. ;) Passing the border was
very easy, unlike last time. I ate dinner at a very nice Italian place, Went
to Wal Mart, and found some unusual canadian things, took some nice nite shots
of the Detroit Skyline and returned to the US without a hassle. When the 
guard asked what I had bought in Canada, I produced my reciepts, and my
docs. He complimented me for being efficient, and didnt mention that my 
car could use some tidying up. I'm almost up for another visit.

I had a very nice weekend.


#497 of 673 by rcurl on Mon Aug 18 18:06:42 2003:

It's great that while it rains in Michigan it doesn't rain in Canada.  8^}


#498 of 673 by scott on Mon Aug 18 23:18:41 2003:

Getting broadband Internet on Friday.

Hey, it's Comcast and it's cable - do I need to buy a cable modem?  Would I
save money if I bought my own?


#499 of 673 by gelinas on Tue Aug 19 03:46:59 2003:

Not really happy, but amused:  the real-estate channel uses a Windows
machine for the display.  We know this, because it is currently low on
virtual memory. :)


#500 of 673 by phaza7 on Tue Aug 19 03:55:33 2003:

IHB I've just finished reading Learning Perl and 
school starts next week. An I heared the IT classes
got all new equipment :))


#501 of 673 by dcat on Tue Aug 19 05:01:46 2003:

A high school friend whom I hadn't seen all summer returned from a two-week
vacation to find my email about leaving shortly, called me, & asked if i
wanted to go for a drive.  While I was waiting for her, got a call from Dan
about our plans changing to give us an extra day in Ann Arbor, so we were able
to really go all out -- we drove through Dixboro, then up past Whitmore Lake
and through Pinkney to Hell, then down through Dexter past Ann Arbor and
Saline almost to Bridgewater, then out almost to Manchester, then up 52 to
Scio Church and back to Ann Arbor, over two and a half hours of bugs popping
on the windshield.  Had a couple close calls, but managed to avoid killing
any mammals.


#502 of 673 by michaela on Tue Aug 19 05:13:30 2003:

Re #498 - most people just rent their modem through the cable company.
Kalamazoo falls under Charter's regime, and the modem rental is $5/month. I'm
pretty sure Comcast charges similar rates.

IHB my new dress is turning out beautifully. This vacation-at-home is doing
wonders for my well-being.  :)


#503 of 673 by remmers on Tue Aug 19 11:54:02 2003:

Re resp:499 - Heh.  I noticed that too.


#504 of 673 by scott on Tue Aug 19 13:15:56 2003:

Re 502:  Thanks, and the Comcast web page say $3/mo.  Seems about right given
my long-term plans to leave.

My dial-up account ran out yesterday, but after a bit of scraping around this
morning I found a copy of "cu" so I could Grex.


#505 of 673 by mynxcat on Tue Aug 19 14:48:54 2003:

Hmmm, my modem is free, however I hve to pay $5 a month for my cable 
box for my TV


#506 of 673 by gull on Tue Aug 19 15:07:44 2003:

I had to pay up front for my DSL modem.


#507 of 673 by goose on Tue Aug 19 15:21:03 2003:

YEah, when I had DSL I had to pay $299 for the DSL router/modem/whatever but
I got a $299 credit for it a month later, and now we rent a cable modem for
$3 or $3.95 a month, and I think that's a fair deal esp. since they've had
to replace it a couple times.


#508 of 673 by scott on Tue Aug 19 15:25:12 2003:

My "birdcage web japanese" weave for the next chainmail shirt will actually
work!  <evil laughter>


#509 of 673 by polytarp on Tue Aug 19 17:10:25 2003:

HEY SCOTT DRAW US AN ASCII DIAGRAM


#510 of 673 by mooncat on Tue Aug 19 19:07:47 2003:

IHB- after a couple weeks of agonizing pain- I have finally had all 
four of my wisdom teeth extracted (procedure was completed about an 
hour ago). Just a bit of local and some nitrous and I was rather 
entertained by the process. It doesn't hurt yet... but I'm prepared for 
when it does.

Also, IHB the beau is coming down later to take care of me, and my 
roomie and everyone is being really wonderful about this.


#511 of 673 by polytarp on Tue Aug 19 19:55:57 2003:

THER"S AN ITEM ABOUT NITROUS AT THE DENTIST.


#512 of 673 by michaela on Tue Aug 19 20:20:32 2003:

Anney - Ice cream. Lots of ice cream. :)


#513 of 673 by goose on Tue Aug 19 21:07:03 2003:

Vodka and Percodan.


#514 of 673 by slynne on Tue Aug 19 21:16:05 2003:

Hmmm. I just got some emails from a couple of guys I went to Germany 
with when I was 14. It was weird because I was just thinking about that 
trip recently. Anyhow, they are trying to get the whole group together 
which is pretty cool. 

Also, my friend Shannon called me last night to let me know she is 
going to be in town this weekend. What do you know!



#515 of 673 by scott on Wed Aug 20 02:05:31 2003:

Finally got to install some new jacks in the Ark's mixer, which should fix
the flaky-channel problem that's been going on for the last few months.


#516 of 673 by mooncat on Wed Aug 20 02:48:44 2003:

Will have to get some ice cream.. though I'm not sure how many stores 
have fully restockd after the blackout. In any case- pudding is good. :)


#517 of 673 by mcnally on Wed Aug 20 05:22:56 2003:

  I'm happy because my DSL has finally been hooked up.

  Also, had a fun day yesterday.  My 13-year-old nephew is in town, 
  along with his best friend, and my sister and I took the two of them
  out in the boat over to Bostwick Inlet on nearby Gravina Island.
  Along the way we came across a pod of whales, one of whom was bold
  enough to allow us to approach.  After watching the whales for a while
  we continued to the inlet, where we put down a couple of crab pots,
  then went back to the mouth of the inlet and started trolling.  
  Caught a nicely sized silver and had enough keepers in the crab pots
  that everyone had all the crab and salmon they could eat.

  I'm liking Alaska..


#518 of 673 by polytarp on Wed Aug 20 05:54:23 2003:

I DON"t THINK SCOTT WANTS TO TALK TO Me


#519 of 673 by jaklumen on Wed Aug 20 06:49:05 2003:

resp:510 Hmmm... I had my wisdom teeth out when I was 16 or so.  They 
gave me painkillers, but I skipped them.  I dunno if this would work 
for you, as you had them out so much later, but what I did was changed 
the gauze when needed, and remembered to ice my cheeks frequently and 
on a rotating basis.  Oh, you were just talking about food you could 
eat?  The vodka suggestion threw me.


#520 of 673 by michaela on Wed Aug 20 07:59:06 2003:

IHB I'm putting the final hand-stitching touches on my dress, and it fits
perfectly.
IAHB I'm excited about my classes this semester. I went and picked up the
books today.


#521 of 673 by scott on Wed Aug 20 13:47:46 2003:

Finally I understand the rather nonintuitive "profile" system in the Red Hat
Linux (as used in Yellow Dog Linux for Macintosh hardware) network stuff.
Turns out you make have to make many copies of each device and the profile
switching only chooses which ones are active.


#522 of 673 by lynne on Wed Aug 20 14:15:52 2003:

Nine more days till our cross-country roadtrip.  :)  


#523 of 673 by gull on Wed Aug 20 15:34:44 2003:

Re #521: Is that how it's supposed to work?  That seems kind of screwy.

I've had problems because I have both a wired network card and a
wireless card.  I don't (and physically can't) insert them both at once.
 RedHat wants to call them both eth0 and gets confused.


#524 of 673 by scott on Wed Aug 20 17:54:19 2003:

Hmm... on one of the device pages it kept putting the wireless card back to
eth0, when it should be eth1.  Still haven't figured out what the screen is
trying to accomplish, but anyway it works for me regardless.


#525 of 673 by russ on Thu Aug 21 01:43:20 2003:

Got some very important things done today, and found a major
error in stuff at work (not mine).


#526 of 673 by scott on Thu Aug 21 13:03:17 2003:

I've been taking reasonable long bike rides (maybe an hour, at fast speeds
and on hills) lately - maybe I need to find that old bike computer just to
see what kind of mileage I'm getting.  I'm definitely stronger than I was back
in the spring.


#527 of 673 by gull on Thu Aug 21 13:25:55 2003:

I used to have a bike computer, but it broke. These days I just throw my
GPS unit into my rack bag.


#528 of 673 by scott on Thu Aug 21 15:18:16 2003:

Bike computers are pretty cheap, though.  


#529 of 673 by gull on Thu Aug 21 16:37:21 2003:

They are, but I already had the GPS.  And I'm not so interested in my
speed while I'm riding as I am the distance I travelled and my average
speed when I'm done.


#530 of 673 by goose on Thu Aug 21 18:31:43 2003:

I want a bike computer that runs Linux...;-)


#531 of 673 by jiffer on Fri Aug 22 03:24:49 2003:

IHB I finally experimented with the new scanner/printer... and scanned, filed
and emailed some pictures to munkey.  May the fashion gods have pity on me...


#532 of 673 by lynne on Fri Aug 22 15:09:34 2003:

IHB I skipped out of work yesterday and hit the beach.  Mmmm.  Swimming. :)


#533 of 673 by scott on Fri Aug 22 18:07:13 2003:

I have broadband!  And I managed to get my wireless/router/firewall working,
too.


#534 of 673 by gelinas on Sat Aug 23 01:40:12 2003:

IAHB I drove State Street from Washington to South U this afternoon.  I wanted
to drive North U to State Street, but I didn't have the time to go that far
out of my way.


#535 of 673 by jules on Sat Aug 23 02:25:15 2003:

im the manager of a gym, and a bunch of my members brought me presents and
balloons for my birthday!!!! that was so nice!


#536 of 673 by russ on Sat Aug 23 03:49:33 2003:

Not happy so much as amused, but I got my first bounce message
from a SoBig today.  Gee, what would the Internet be without
Microsoft, to be the bad example for us all? ;-)


#537 of 673 by remmers on Sat Aug 23 11:11:52 2003:

Your first one?  How'd you get off so easily.  I've received
bunches of them.


#538 of 673 by gregb on Sat Aug 23 15:19:00 2003:

Re. #530:  Hey, why not?  Linux is getting embedded in all kinds of 
stuff.


#539 of 673 by russ on Sun Aug 24 01:43:38 2003:

Got a really nice workout on my bike tonight.


#540 of 673 by jaklumen on Sun Aug 24 04:58:46 2003:

Went to the in-laws fam reunion today-- went a little better than I 
thought.  No swimming after all (it was too cold for the beach and the 
heated pool cost about $4), food was marginal, but the people were 
pretty cool and easy to warm up to.  I'm rather reserved, and deep 
down, I'm still rather shy, so I wasn't looking forward to being 
introduced to a lot of strange people... especially as my wife has had 
a habit of abruptly doing so.  (She's not terribly shy.)


#541 of 673 by lynne on Sun Aug 24 17:21:14 2003:

I haven't gotten any bounced sobig messages yet.  I feel left out!
IHB I spent most of yesterday sleeping and feel *much* better.


#542 of 673 by fitz on Sun Aug 24 21:02:04 2003:

My kneecap got an affectionate hug from a very young, little girl who
recognized that I am Santa Claus.  Her father was grateful that I played the
part for her.

She's a good girl, of course, and she will get lots of presents.


#543 of 673 by russ on Mon Aug 25 03:01:18 2003:

Took the poor bike light apart, and found that all its little
spring contacts had been bent out of shape by the impact and
weren't letting juice flow.  Bent them back and it worked!
The dings add character. ;-)

Got some proper chain lube and it really made a difference too.

Was tossing out the trash tonight and found a nearly-new set of
off-road mountain bike tires in the dumpster.  The mold lines
were still visible!  I can't believe what my neighbors pitch.
They were the same type I used to have before, so I snagged 'em.

At least my neighbors are recycling.  Maybe it was the bottled
water everyone was drinking, but I see overflowing recycle bins
where they used to be empty.  This is a good thing.


#544 of 673 by gull on Mon Aug 25 13:06:59 2003:

Re #543: Good for you.  I've always been of the opinion that a broken
item that's been creatively patched has more class than a new one. ;>


#545 of 673 by michaela on Mon Aug 25 17:05:07 2003:

IHB I had a decent weekend watching the boy's band play at two shows, and I'm
here through Labor Day. Yay.


#546 of 673 by dcat on Mon Aug 25 23:13:35 2003:

Living in a frat house doesn't seem to be turning out as badly as I'd thought
it might.  There are about a dozen of us transfers that all got stuck on a
floor of a fraternity (Delta Sigma Delta, a pre-dentistry majors' frat)
together.  the few of the others i've met are pretty cool.  as far as i know,
i haven't seen any of the frat guys yet, but there aren't very many of them.

among the things we lack, however, are a lounge.  our hall meeting tonight
is on the plaza in front of the building, on the first day all week that it's
actually cooler *inside* the building (which isn't air-conditioned) than
outside.

happy nevertheless.


#547 of 673 by bru on Tue Aug 26 03:20:27 2003:

Got our phone and thus our internet back tonight.

Originally thought we were qa part of the general cable outage from the
Broadway bridge cable cut, but a tech showed upa nd checked the line tonight
and said it was fine, that it must be a brokeen wire in the house that would
cost$100 to fix.  But when we tried it it worked fine.


#548 of 673 by naftee on Tue Aug 26 14:50:30 2003:

It's called wireless internet, D00D


#549 of 673 by anderyn on Tue Aug 26 15:49:05 2003:

No  we do not have wireless. We're Luddites and still use a modem and a phone
line. If I could, I'd go back to the days of text-only internet browsing that
I did at home until maybe the year 2000. (I have never been a big fan of all
the bells and whistles.) Happy happy that I have home internet access back!
And that Dr. Krasnoff managed to fix my broken tooth w/out any major problems.


#550 of 673 by mynxcat on Tue Aug 26 15:54:18 2003:

You can go text only - just log on to grex and use lynx


#551 of 673 by tpryan on Tue Aug 26 17:00:15 2003:

re 546:
        There is a training video about frat house living out today
at most stores.  It even features a Delta house.


#552 of 673 by anderyn on Tue Aug 26 18:23:43 2003:

I do in fact do that half the time. But at work I need to see other stuff.
Grin.


#553 of 673 by gelinas on Wed Aug 27 02:37:17 2003:

(FWIW, our wireless access point went out with the power.  As did our ISDN
adapter.  Both came back, of course, after the power was restored, but not
as quickly as we would have liked; we had power for twelve to twenty-four
hours before the ISDN line came back up.)


#554 of 673 by richard on Wed Aug 27 08:54:08 2003:

IHB I attended a rally here in nyc tonight for presidential candidate 
Howard Dean, a physician who was formerly governor of Vermont.  I got 
to meet him afterwards and he comes across as a genuinely decent 
person.  Dean's candor is refreshing, and he is unapologetic in his 
bashing of Bush and vowing to repeal Bush's tax cuts to pay for 
universal health care.  The event, at Bryant Park behind the main 
branch of the New York public library, was well organized.  There were 
tables all around the park with laptop computers linked to the 
campaign's homepage, so people attending the rally could sign up 
online.  In fact, a fair number of people I talked to there said they 
found out about the rally via the homepage or email, not because of any 
local publicity.  The Dean campaign seems to have come a long way via 
online organizing.

There were several thousand people at the rally, and afterwards, when 
the event had ended, Dean hung around for a while and some of us got to 
talk to him before he left.  He mentioned that he's a native of New 
York City, born and raised on the upper east side, just up the road 
from the site of the rally.  

I was also impressed because he made a point of having a local college 
student introduce him, a girl from Vermont who proudly proclaimed as to 
how she was raised by two mothers, i.e. she has lesbian parents, and 
she supports Dean because as governor of her home state, he signed the 
bill legalizing civil unions of gay couples.  This gave formal sanction 
to her parents relationship, and Dean says he supports and will push 
for a national law conferring the legal benefits of marriage for gay 
couples.  

There was a lot of energy and enthusiasm evident for Dean.  I'm 
undecided between him and Kerry, but I like everything I've seen of Dr. 
Dean so far, and he was candid with his answers to questions, seems to 
be an excellent public speaker, and has a firm handshake which is 
always a good sign.  


#555 of 673 by gull on Wed Aug 27 12:49:59 2003:

I like Dean, but I think Kerry will be more likely to win if he's
nominated.  For one thing, he has a real military record that would
stand up well against Bush's questionable record and Cheney's
nonexistant one.  That takes away one of the Republicans' strong issues.


#556 of 673 by happyboy on Wed Aug 27 17:27:59 2003:

CLARK.


#557 of 673 by senna on Wed Aug 27 20:29:51 2003:

Uh, repealing Bush's tax cuts will PAY for national health care?  I don't
think that's really what Dean is proposing, is it?  It might help, but paying
for national health care is a whole lot more expensive than that.

Just a thought.  Every time I start getting annoyed at how the media will
overhype something like the DC sniper, Kobe Bryant, or the New York side of
the blackout, I am reminded that almost anything is better than the incessant
politics available as an alternative.


#558 of 673 by jmsaul on Wed Aug 27 22:14:13 2003:

Re #556:  Yeah, that'd be interesting.


#559 of 673 by slynne on Thu Aug 28 01:21:25 2003:

I have said it once, I will say it a thousand times: Kerry can win 
because has the THE HAIR(tm) ;)

Seriously though, I havent yet formed an opinion about which Dem I 
like. I think I prefer Dean over Kerry though. 


#560 of 673 by eskarina on Thu Aug 28 01:35:35 2003:

IHB I'm back in love with the math deparment at Holt High School, where I am
student teaching.  Almost every high school math department has one or two
really good teachers... smart teachers with strong content knowledge who
really care about students and the way they teach them... this math department
has several.  My cooperating teacher is one of them.  We line up
philosophically much more than I did with my mentor teacher in Chicago,
although she was certainly one of the better ones in the program.

Today I had an interesting first.  I put my last name up in bubble letters
in a window next to the door of our new classroom.  It was strange and
invigorating.

We get kids on Tuesday.  Aieee!


#561 of 673 by russ on Thu Aug 28 03:16:13 2003:

I have to do some research on firewalling and such to be secure,
but I should have real ISP service in use pretty soon.


#562 of 673 by michaela on Thu Aug 28 14:30:11 2003:

Re #560 - good luck. That sounds exciting. I can't wait to teach. :)

IHB the boy and I had something of a fight right before bed last night, but
it was resolved this morning. Yay.


#563 of 673 by tod on Thu Aug 28 16:16:04 2003:

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#564 of 673 by lynne on Thu Aug 28 17:55:37 2003:

Only 25.5 hours of Hell left before I get my vacation.


#565 of 673 by richard on Fri Aug 29 04:54:22 2003:

latest poll in new hampshire (zogby) released yesterday:

Howard Dean 38%
John Kerry 17%
Dick Gephardt 6%
Joe Lieberman 6%

Dean is clearly the front runner now.  Dark horse candidate may be
entering though.   Today's New York Times says four star general Wesley
Clark is likely to enter in a couple of weeks.   General Clark is an
outspoken critic of Bush's foreign policy.  It can't hurt the Democratic
party to have a four star general in the debate bashing Bush  
'.


#566 of 673 by happyboy on Fri Aug 29 05:35:38 2003:

*crosses fingers*


#567 of 673 by scott on Fri Aug 29 16:22:33 2003:

In California, visiting my sister.  And it's nice and cool here, at least in
Berkely this morning.


#568 of 673 by tod on Fri Aug 29 17:18:45 2003:

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#569 of 673 by jor on Fri Aug 29 22:48:33 2003:

        there are 3 e's in Berkeley


#570 of 673 by tod on Fri Aug 29 23:18:20 2003:

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#571 of 673 by michaela on Sat Aug 30 02:40:32 2003:

IHB I spent the evening dying my friend's hair, grilling with her and 
other friends, and playing Soul Calibur II with the boy.

IAHB I got to do laundry for free. This is a big deal to me. :) I HATE 
going to the laundromat.


#572 of 673 by russ on Sat Aug 30 13:28:40 2003:

I'm about halfway through the Halloween 9 paper, and I am finding
the deconstruction of SCO's legalese very amusing.


#573 of 673 by vidar on Sun Aug 31 11:13:39 2003:

IHB I will be taking a fair maiden to the Renassaince Faire later today.


#574 of 673 by gelinas on Mon Sep 1 01:01:35 2003:

Fair?  For some reason, I'd guess a brunette.


#575 of 673 by happyboy on Mon Sep 1 01:07:42 2003:

with hirsute quality


#576 of 673 by richard on Mon Sep 1 02:59:41 2003:

IHB I had a quality Saturday night last night.  Spent it across the 
river on the Jersey side, at Giants Stadium, watching Bruce Springsteen 
and the E Street Band perform live.  Bruce is of course New Jersey's 
favorite son, he lives right near the Meadowlands, so this was 
literally a home field show for him.  Stadium shows are becoming a 
rarity in this day and age.  These days you have acts who have to co-
headline just to sell 12,000 seat arenas.  Stadium shows are fast 
becoming something reserved for multi-act festivals.  This was the 9th 
of 10 shows Bruce has done at Giants Stadium, a facility that seats 
80,000, and all are sellouts.  And not only was this not a co-headline 
tour, or a festival, but Bruce was as usual his own opening act.  A 
three hour plus show, with no smoke or pyrotechnics, or video montages, 
or performers disappearing for long periods of time for costume 
changes.  Just a good old fashioned rock and roll show, where the band 
comes to play, and do nothing BUT play.  Pretty refreshing!  

Bruce played a lot of songs, both old and new, and showed the special 
chemistry he has with the E Street Band.  Rare it is to see a band 
playing that knows each other so well.  These days bands are too often 
artificially created, put together by PR flacks and talent agents 
sorting through head shots, with the songs written by professional 
pop "songwriters" hired by the studios.  When Bruce was 
doing "Rosalita", with this big grin on his face, and jamming to 
Clarence Clemmons' sax solo, you see the affection they have for each 
other and can sense the fact that they were flashing back to days when 
they were playing in nearby Jersey bars years ago and nobody had ever 
heard of them.  When you see Bruce and his band, you are seeing 
something real, and authentic, and sadly, you don't see that much 
anymore.  The whole music business is corrupted now, and the artists 
are corrupted, and most of what you get is packaged and processed, and 
decidely IMO *not* real.

This was a great concert.  I have never seen a bad Bruce show, he is a 
hell of a live performer.  He did great old hits like Glory Days (with 
Bruce and Little Steven VanZandt doing an extended guitar jam), Dancing 
in the Dark, Badlands, Rosalita, Candy's Room, and great new songs like 
The Rising, Waiting on a Sunny Day, Mary's Place, and others.  A 
special thrill was when one of my favorite singers, Emmylou Harris, 
came on stage and a beautiful duet of Bruce's song "Across the Border" 
(which she also sings on her new album btw)  Bruce also doesn't hide 
his political feelings, such as making pretty pointed negative comments 
about the Iraq war and our troops continued presence there. which he 
made to lead into the terrific song, "Land of Hope and Dreams"  Also, 
as I've seen at virtually all Bruce's shows that I've been to, he had 
reprentatives of his favorite causes, the local homeless organizations 
and foodbanks, as well as Amnesty International, in and around the 
building collecting money, and he made pitches for them.

A wonderful show, but when you left the building, you couldn't help but 
feel a little sadness mixed with the adrenalin high.  Because, as I 
said, IMO rock and roll is losing its authenticity, the new performers 
are packaged and processed, and the music is given to them as opposed 
to being the product of authentic struggle and life experience.  Bruce 
and his bandmates are in their fifties now.  When they stop performing, 
and they will at some point probably not too far off, they won't be 
replaced.  Acts don't grow that naturally anymore.  Its all artificial 
now.  So you think, ten or twenty years from now, will you or your kids 
be able to go to a rock and roll show and have the experience be as 
real as this was?  Answer-- probably not.  Bruce is a dinosaur now in 
the industry, the consummate rock performer.  A dying breed, nearing 
extinction.  So when you see him, or others like him, performing live, 
you have to savor the moment-- as I did-- knowing those moments are 
soon not to come again.






#577 of 673 by jor on Mon Sep 1 10:09:48 2003:

        "authentic struggle and life experience"

        Oh yea. Like learning to play the guitar.
        You've got to give Bruce credit, he keeps
        trying anyway.



#578 of 673 by slynne on Mon Sep 1 12:49:53 2003:

Richard, sometimes I wonder if you missed your calling to work in PR. 
Half the time you write something, it comes off sounding like a press 
release or advertising copy. :)


#579 of 673 by goose on Mon Sep 1 13:37:00 2003:

RE#577 -- I've always had a dim view of Bruce's guitar playing, but
on the recent VH1 special about Warren Zevon it showed him playing a guitar
solo on the record and I have to say I was surprised and impressed.  He really
can play something interesting.  I don't know if he could always do that, but
se can now.
^^he


#580 of 673 by tod on Mon Sep 1 14:39:48 2003:

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#581 of 673 by vidar on Mon Sep 1 18:08:37 2003:

Although it may seem odd, IHB I got rejected yesterday.


#582 of 673 by richard on Tue Sep 2 02:08:51 2003:

#577...Bruce is a terrific guitar player, he did some good solos at the
concert.  Granted he is not as good as Nils Lofgren, but who is.  In fact
Bruce first came to prominence in New Jersey clubs as a guitarist,
not as a singer.  He often sat in on club gigs backing up Southside Johnny
and the Asbury Jukes, the one time house band  at the now famous Stone
Pony club, and Bruce was before being "discovered", lead guitarist for
several long forgotten Jersey bar bands...


#583 of 673 by anderyn on Tue Sep 2 13:51:38 2003:

Richard, that is sad. Of course, that's why I still dig folk music, where the
performers/performances haven't yet gotten corrupted by being popular. :-)
And I am glad to hear that you enjoyed the show.


#584 of 673 by scott on Tue Sep 2 15:38:20 2003:

Huh.  I've never really heard a good Springsteen guitar solo - great arranged
parts, but leads generally sucked.  


#585 of 673 by tpryan on Tue Sep 2 17:00:21 2003:

re 576,
        Hey ricard, how about re-entering that as an item in the music.cf?


#586 of 673 by jaklumen on Tue Sep 2 22:48:18 2003:

Music could use a little something different.  Not a bad idea.


#587 of 673 by mooncat on Thu Sep 4 01:51:01 2003:

re #519- actually, after the first day I was told not to use ice packs 
but to use heated things (my solution, putting a damp washcloth in the 
microwave for a few, then putting it in a Ziplock bag and putting that 
on my cheeks). This worked out really well.

IHB- the beau and I have been together for almost a year (a year as of 
Oct 11)- and not only have we never had anything even resembling a 
fight (debates on ideas don't count) everything just keeps getting 
better and better. :)

IAHB- while I'm a temp- I am employed. I like the people I work with 
and the work itself isn't bad. Not my dream job- but it will do until I 
figure out what my dream job is.


#588 of 673 by scott on Thu Sep 4 14:12:38 2003:

Wow, nice cool weather finally, although I missed a few cool days by being
in California.

Got a cool pair of comfortable shoes at an outlet mall, too.


#589 of 673 by russ on Sat Sep 6 12:23:47 2003:

IHB there is now a meeting of the electric sports car and the
lithium-ion battery:  http://www.acpropulsion.com/ has details.
("Improvements in acceleration" in a car that already out-ran
a Ferrari!  And upwards of 270 miles range!)


#590 of 673 by gull on Sat Sep 6 23:51:50 2003:

From the FAQ: "It will be priced between a Porsche and a Ferrari."  Heh.

It doesn't really matter; I'm not going to be in the market for an
electric car until someone invents a wireless extension cord.  I think
my apartment complex would frown on me running a power wire off my
balcony and across the parking lot.


#591 of 673 by anderyn on Sun Sep 7 02:13:00 2003:

I had a good birthday on Wed, and people are still doing birthday things. This
is nice.


#592 of 673 by scg on Sun Sep 7 03:31:11 2003:

You could always buy a gasoline or diesel generator to park next to it. ;)


#593 of 673 by gelinas on Sun Sep 7 04:52:44 2003:

IAHB night sailing was (mostly) fun.  Trying to beat to the dock wasn't so
much fun, because the wind kept shifting and dying, but other than that 'twas
quite nice.


#594 of 673 by rcurl on Sun Sep 7 05:08:02 2003:

IAH because it took me ONLY all day Saturday to upgrade an iMac from
OS 8.6 to 9.2.2. 


#595 of 673 by tod on Sun Sep 7 15:01:40 2003:

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#596 of 673 by drew on Sun Sep 7 20:34:13 2003:

Re #590:
    Tesla was working on something of the sort...

    In the apartment I was living in before I moved into a house, it would
have been possible to accommodate an electric car. The building was a
single-floor four unit type built on a corner in a neighborhood of mostly
single-family houses. A driveway ran from one street, behind the building,
to the other street, with four parallel parking spots marked one outside each
apartment's kitchen window. (And the other three tenants almost never used
that parking, preferring to park in the street so as to be right outside the
door.) It would be easy in that building to run an extension cord from a
vehicle into the kitchen window (might have to loosen a screen, maybe) to
whatever plug would be convenient, without the cord even being visible let
alone interfering with anything.

    When I moved recently, I looked for such a place. But they seem not to
exist in the location I was after. About the only thing listed were apartments
in complexes of multi-story building with parking spaces some distance from
their respective apartments. I do have a docking port (and am satisifed with
its location after all), and they run power to it as at the middle of each
pair of spaces there is a lightbulb which comes on at night. I doubt one could
get away with tapping power, though. Maybe some day apartment carports will
feature electric car charging hookups...

    Anyway I plan to start the next search a few months early.


#597 of 673 by scott on Mon Sep 8 01:14:57 2003:

Last time I lived in an apartment complex, one guy had an extension cable
running out his window, off his 2nd story porch, and over to the nearest
parking spot.  

It powered the trickle charger on his bass boat.


#598 of 673 by dah on Mon Sep 8 02:28:13 2003:

Montreal is the coolest city ever.


#599 of 673 by slynne on Mon Sep 8 19:33:52 2003:

I got to see my friend Michael Black marry a really awesome woman named 
Raina on Saturday. It is really nice when someone you love marries 
someone who is wonderful. 


#600 of 673 by edina on Mon Sep 8 19:57:26 2003:

I'm happy because I am nearly 3 weeks post-op from gastric bypass surgery and
I'm feeling awesome.  I haven't been sick, I haven't had any bad side-effects,
and I'm starting to notice some significant weight loss.  

Now we really see just how like m-net grex is.


#601 of 673 by tod on Mon Sep 8 20:05:44 2003:

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#602 of 673 by dah on Mon Sep 8 22:12:37 2003:

I'm not going to say anything.


#603 of 673 by other on Tue Sep 9 00:55:57 2003:

I'm home.  Daily showers, choice of footwear, clean laundry, internet 
access whenever I feel like it.  It's like a vacation from my vacation.


#604 of 673 by jaklumen on Tue Sep 9 02:45:38 2003:

resp:600 that is good news.

I had my sleep study scheduled, finally.  I can't wait.


#605 of 673 by lynne on Tue Sep 9 14:36:59 2003:

Speaking of sleep...got 14 hours last night.  And only woke up because the
phone ringer was set on "high" at 9 this morning.


#606 of 673 by michaela on Tue Sep 9 17:09:02 2003:

IHB I really like my new doctor. He came into the room ten minutes before my
scheduled appointment time, and he answered my questions in detail without
patronizing me or talking down to me. He was really friendly, as well. I'm
pleased.


#607 of 673 by katie on Tue Sep 9 23:01:39 2003:

Matt Watroba is going to open for me at Green Wood this Friday, and emcee.


#608 of 673 by happyboy on Tue Sep 9 23:36:11 2003:

re606:   back in the old days you could have paid him with some
food...like cat sausage or something.


#609 of 673 by anderyn on Wed Sep 10 00:42:48 2003:

Cool about Matt! Maybe I'll be able to come.


#610 of 673 by michaela on Wed Sep 10 02:01:11 2003:

Re #608 - wow... that's so cool... you'd think that insult/joke would be
getting old by now.

Guess not.


#611 of 673 by happyboy on Wed Sep 10 08:20:30 2003:

nope!

:P


#612 of 673 by gelinas on Wed Sep 10 13:16:28 2003:

IAHB Zingerman's Roadhouse will be opening RSN.


#613 of 673 by scott on Wed Sep 10 17:02:42 2003:

Started rebuilding my old reliable computer yesterday, and found a nice big
hard disk inside.  Old stuff, and I'd forgotten I had it.  Still big enough
for modern OS installs!  


#614 of 673 by i on Thu Sep 11 00:22:53 2003:

5.25" or 8"?


#615 of 673 by scott on Thu Sep 11 01:20:36 2003:

14Gb!  Forgot I'd stashed that puppy in there in case I wanted to boot Win98
or Caldera 2.4, my previous main operating systems.


#616 of 673 by jep on Thu Sep 11 01:34:05 2003:

Katie, what time is your concert this Friday?


#617 of 673 by beeswing on Thu Sep 11 03:19:54 2003:

A love interest... though I'm not totally certain how I feel about him yet.


#618 of 673 by jep on Thu Sep 11 13:04:21 2003:

I found it on the Internet; Katie's concert is this Friday, September 
12, 8:00 at Green Wood Coffee House.


#619 of 673 by edina on Thu Sep 11 16:14:11 2003:

IHB I'm feeling great, I am down 30lbs. from 3 weeks ago, my doctor is happy
with my progress and the fatigue is starting to lessen.  I'm extremely happy
because I'm seeing the new man in two weeks.


#620 of 673 by michaela on Thu Sep 11 17:08:48 2003:

Wow... that's great, Brooke!  :)

IHB I've been eating a lot better (read: the way I was raised), and I already
have lots more energy, and the depression is lifting. This is way cool. I'm
hoping to lose weight since I've also increased my activity, but right now
I'm just happy to get rid of the lethargy and depression. :)


#621 of 673 by other on Thu Sep 11 20:10:47 2003:

IHB I'm apparently not dead.  (Comcast disconnected me briefly today due 
to "death of subscriber.")  I have since been reconnected [resurrected?].


#622 of 673 by jep on Thu Sep 11 21:15:47 2003:

Eric, congratulations on your recovery.  (-:


#623 of 673 by mooncat on Thu Sep 11 22:07:41 2003:

IHB- the Beau, Roomie and I are planning to go see Once Upon a Time in 
Mexico tomorrow (along with some other people possibly.)

IAHB- the job is going well. Not much of a brain challenge, but it's 
all right, and I like my co-workers.


#624 of 673 by void on Thu Sep 11 23:20:35 2003:

   IHB I have a new hunny.


#625 of 673 by slynne on Thu Sep 11 23:27:45 2003:

That's awesome, void!


#626 of 673 by other on Fri Sep 12 00:48:58 2003:

I have a new client.  :)  More gig potential.


#627 of 673 by other on Fri Sep 12 01:36:25 2003:

I just finished a letter to the American Civil Liberties Union chastising 
them.  I included a nice check.

(I told them to quit filling up my mailbox, they're preaching to the 
choir.)


#628 of 673 by senna on Fri Sep 12 02:35:33 2003:

Things are pretty much together, except that whole moving part.  I have eight
days to get that under some kind of control.

I can tell it's going to be last minute. ;)


#629 of 673 by jiffer on Fri Sep 12 02:54:15 2003:

IHB I get a weekend of almost relaxation, a Wine Expo to enjoy on Thursday,
and a Test the day after.  

IAHB I have rediscovered that 1. I still like to swim, 2. I still can swim,
3. swimming caps help prevent that shitzo dog look with the hair while you
are performing the front crawl.


#630 of 673 by mynxcat on Fri Sep 12 13:44:40 2003:

I got my touchpad disabled. Now my typing is faster and I don't have to keep
moving my mouse around, and deleting stuff from where it's not supposed to
be.


#631 of 673 by michaela on Fri Sep 12 19:17:52 2003:

IHB after only a week of eating better and exercising thirty minutes 
per day, I feel exponentially better, and 75% of my depression is 
lifting. I talked to my psychiatrist about it, and she said that quite 
a few people who suffer from clinical depression can avoid mood drugs 
if they change their eating and exercise habits. :)

IAHB at this rate, I'll be my old size (12) by Christmas. :)


#632 of 673 by lynne on Fri Sep 12 20:45:31 2003:

IHB subgroup went smoothly and is now *over*.  A couple good suggestions, new
ideas, and the right to spend the evening at a bookstore with a large frothy
coffee-based drink--all mine!  :)


#633 of 673 by oval on Fri Sep 12 23:19:45 2003:

IHB today wasn't as shitty as yesterday was.



#634 of 673 by happyboy on Sat Sep 13 00:24:03 2003:

did you buy a plongeur?


#635 of 673 by oval on Sat Sep 13 00:58:21 2003:

maiwee



#636 of 673 by jep on Sat Sep 13 03:06:30 2003:

I'm happy because I am now on vacation.  We leave for Washington DC 
tomorrow morning.


#637 of 673 by gelinas on Sun Sep 14 04:06:31 2003:

IAHB Michigan played well today.  However, I do think Mr. Carr could have sent
in the second team a bit earlier than he did.


#638 of 673 by albaugh on Sun Sep 14 04:50:16 2003:

Oh puh-leeze.  Poor little ole ND got its butt whipped because they stank up
the place, totally disgracefully, not because UM ran up the score.


#639 of 673 by gelinas on Sun Sep 14 13:52:28 2003:

Didn't say UM did run up the score.  Had they wanted to, the score would
have been MUCH higher.  Still, the second team could have come out at least
a series earlier than they did.  


#640 of 673 by senna on Sun Sep 14 17:11:04 2003:

Actually, they couldn't.  Notre Dame just came back from a 19-point shutout
deficit in the second half last week, and the last series the major starters
played started with Michigan up 24-0 in the third quarter.  Northing wrong
with making sure.  Nothing wrong at all.  I've seen comebacks a lot more
shocking than that.

Michigan goes to Oregon next week, and I won't be watching.  I'll be busy.
In fact, I'll be busy all week.  It's nice, though.


#641 of 673 by gelinas on Sun Sep 14 19:57:21 2003:

That was the series I was thinking of, too.  The excuse I made at the time
was that that series started deep in UM territory.  Glad ot know there was
a better reason.  Thanks, senna. :)


#642 of 673 by senna on Mon Sep 15 02:38:46 2003:

It was also only halfway through the third quarter at the time.  Fortunately,
the drive took more than a sixth of the entire game. :)

I actually am quite happy that I've been able to make arrangements for a nice
evening in Denver two weeks from yesterday.  I'm really looking forward to
being able to relax.  


#643 of 673 by michaela on Mon Sep 15 05:23:03 2003:

IHB I had a nice weekend, and I spent most of today watching football.


#644 of 673 by lynne on Mon Sep 15 15:08:47 2003:

Happy, but a little shellshocked--one of my friends is expecting.  In my
ueber-career-oriented circles, this will be the first baby--assuming all
goes well <fingers crossed>


#645 of 673 by mynxcat on Mon Sep 15 15:14:52 2003:

I'm happy that I got my recording of my piano playing to work. Here's the
first piece I recorded (and the only piece
) - http://www.themynx.com/morningmood.mid


#646 of 673 by mooncat on Tue Sep 16 02:47:36 2003:

IHB- the weekend was good, very hectic, but good. Didn't get to see the 
movie, but that's okay. Had much fun bumming around Barnes & Noble with 
the beau looking at all kinds of books and getting good ideas for 
future presents. Also, watched both U of M and MSU football, and was 
pleased by both results. <grins> I didn't know about U of M player 
Chris Perry, but I'm more than willing to adopt him as my cousin. :)


#647 of 673 by mynxcat on Tue Sep 16 14:34:34 2003:

IHB I finally got the guestbook on my site up and running. Coded it in php
after having to learn the language from scratch (The flow is not too different
from ASP, so it wasn't too hard. A little more php programming, and I can put
it on my resume ;)


#648 of 673 by gull on Tue Sep 16 20:23:46 2003:

FYI, if you already know PHP, Perl is easy to learn, and vice versa. 
The two languages are more alike than they are different.


#649 of 673 by mynxcat on Tue Sep 16 20:29:22 2003:

I have been meaning to pick up Perl someday, maybe my next project.


#650 of 673 by sno on Thu Sep 18 22:25:30 2003:

If you do, put the extra work into understanding how hashes work, 
and make every effort to learn to use regex's.  Those two features as
implemented in Perl are well done and easy to use once you understand
them.  Well, perhaps I exaggerate how easy regexs are, but if you can
figure it out it offers some amazing shortcuts.


#651 of 673 by michaela on Thu Sep 18 22:29:14 2003:

IHB the jeans that were formerly tight enough to eviscerate me when attempting
to tie my shoes are now much comfier. I don't even have to inhale to button
them. :)

Four sizes to go... heh...


#652 of 673 by mynxcat on Thu Sep 18 22:30:23 2003:

In my continuing effort to learn php, i have coded the gallery pages of my
site in php. Now I just have two pages irrespective of the number of pictures
i have, unlike with plain html where I had already run up to 100+ pages for
my pictures alone.


#653 of 673 by bhelliom on Fri Sep 19 17:08:16 2003:

IHB my mother and I made it through another year.  Yesterday was her 
57th birthday, and today's my 27th.  Not bad for a couple of feisty 
women.

NOw, I have to jump on the slimming bandwagon and trim a few pounds.  
My size 10-12 clothing is feeling lonely.


#654 of 673 by flem on Fri Sep 19 17:28:05 2003:

Many happy returns!  :)


#655 of 673 by bhelliom on Fri Sep 19 17:35:16 2003:

AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRR, Matey!


#656 of 673 by scott on Fri Sep 19 19:55:25 2003:

Happy birthday!


#657 of 673 by lynne on Fri Sep 19 21:56:56 2003:

Happy birthday, syl!


#658 of 673 by eskarina on Fri Sep 19 22:03:11 2003:

re 655:  shoot, that was today!


#659 of 673 by senna on Sat Sep 20 07:03:34 2003:

It's after midnight (actually, well after midnight).  Thus, I'm getting
married today.

I'll be out of touch for a while.  Things have gone smoothly, though.


#660 of 673 by other on Sat Sep 20 10:59:49 2003:

<boggle>


#661 of 673 by other on Sat Sep 20 11:00:19 2003:

So, who's going to be the wedding feast?  ;)


#662 of 673 by vidar on Sat Sep 20 13:14:45 2003:

IHB There are many attractive single females taking tango lessons with 
the Michigan Argentine Tango Club.  Just wish I knew whom I wanted to 
get to know better.


#663 of 673 by remmers on Sat Sep 20 15:33:54 2003:

You have to get to know somebody better to know if you want to
get to know them better.


#664 of 673 by slynne on Sat Sep 20 16:43:31 2003:

Or you can just base the decision on boob size


#665 of 673 by jaklumen on Sat Sep 20 22:10:24 2003:

okay then.


#666 of 673 by tod on Sun Sep 21 14:01:57 2003:

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#667 of 673 by beeswing on Sun Sep 21 14:44:12 2003:

Congrats, Senna. :)

Sarah, what are you doing to be shrinking like you say (not that I don't
believe you; I just can't see you!).

IHB things are going all right with the new guy, though there's some
issues that may bar him from being a permanent thing. We'll see.

IHB I got these cool new glasses. Very retro looking. So retro that they
are almost like the ones my mom wore when she married my dad... in 1963.

IHB I have a steady paycheck now and can pay my bills.



#668 of 673 by beeswing on Sun Sep 21 14:45:35 2003:

Oh, and IHB I got NEW Old Navy jeans at a thrift store for $5. And some
shirts for $3 each. I love thrift stores!


#669 of 673 by tod on Sun Sep 21 15:16:59 2003:

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#670 of 673 by tsty on Sun Sep 21 16:50:48 2003:

agreed - me too.


#671 of 673 by vidar on Sun Sep 21 18:20:18 2003:

Re # 664: I'm well past that overabundant testosterone phase of life.

Re # 666: Lose 1d% XP for grammatical error.  :-)


#672 of 673 by michaela on Mon Sep 22 09:25:31 2003:

Trish - I stopped eating like a pig 24 hours a day and started excersizing
again.


#673 of 673 by flem on Tue Sep 23 18:37:59 2003:

re #666:  I like tango more than salsa at the moment, mainly because I'm not
that good a latin dancer.  I do well enough at the slower-paced ones like
rhumba and chacha where I have time to think and plan ahead, but I don't have
the steps internalized enough to do them at salsa tempos.  Tango and other
smooth dances like waltz present a different kind of challenge, especially
argentine tango styles, that I find more interesting.  


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