Grex Agora46 Conference

Item 56: This is getting to be a habit (nun today thankyou). Read and enjoy

Entered by twenex on Fri Jul 4 04:11:14 2003:

To all ye who loggeth in today: HAPPY FOURTH OF JULY
27 responses total.

#1 of 27 by pvn on Sat Jul 5 08:43:54 2003:

Did the BBQ thing today with a new grill - the old one was stolen (who
steals used grills?).  20 pounds of beef chunks marianated in a sauce of
soyu, sesame oil, red hungarian paprika, white chinese pepper, rice wine
vinegar, sugar, and fresh chopped ginger root stuck on bamboo stick.  20
pounds of ground beef hamburgers with special spices - cellery salt for
one. Brauts and beef franks (it was all kosher).  Large gaggle, mostly
chinese - free food I quess.


#2 of 27 by jaklumen on Sat Jul 5 10:25:48 2003:

BBQ with the folks- hot dogs, baked beans, chips, spinach salad with 
mandarin oranges in a vinagrette dressing.  Then we went to see their 
new house, well, how it's coming along, and then returned for some 
cake Julie baked.  Watched fireworks on TV since our daughter wasn't 
up to it and I had a sinus headache.


#3 of 27 by jmsaul on Sat Jul 5 14:43:44 2003:

Re #1:  Roughly what proportions are you using in the marinade?  I've never
        used paprika in anything like that.


#4 of 27 by twenex on Sat Jul 5 20:04:32 2003:

Looks like 4th of July was a wash-out on GREX. oh well.


#5 of 27 by pvn on Sun Jul 6 06:03:35 2003:

re#3re#1:  Uh, I'd be hard pressed to answer that precisely.  Generally
I figure out how much meat I am cooking and choose an appropriate sized
bowl.  THen I pour in soyu.  Then I add sesame oil until the consistancy
seems right when wisked.  Then I shake the tin of red hungarian paprika
(not the yellow) until there is a good coating on the surface and then I
shake the tin of chinese white pepper similarly (much more paprika than
pepper).  THen I mix it up with the wisk again.   Then add sugar - not
too much as you are simply trying to cut the salty of the soyu -maybe a
table spoon or two.  Then add about a thumb of chopped fresh ginger and
a little rice wine vinegar.  You should have enough so that when you add
the chunked meat there is some above the surface.  Mix it and let it sit
in the fridge overnight.  In my opinion the critical ratio is that of
paprika to ginger.  It is too easy to add too much ginger.  Also the cut
of meat is somewhat important.  The cubed stew beef will be fine but
will be chewy but a heck of a lot easier to work with.  Flanksteak will
require more preparation - cut the meat into two by one inch strips and 
marinade them for at least two days - double them over when put on the
skewers.
"Breakfast steaks" cut into small strips and again doubled over are ok
too.  Generally I try to see what is on sale and buy accordingly.  You
don't need the best cut of meat but something that is lean is important
as you have anough oil from the sesame, melting fat will flame up and
you end up with charcoaled meat.  Oh, you soak the meat, then you put it
on the bamboo skewers right before cooking.  I don't really know why
this is important other than its much easier, and the bamboo skewers
don't catch on fire if they aren't soaked in sesame oil making it a
little easier to deal with.


#6 of 27 by scott on Sun Jul 6 15:25:28 2003:

Norwegian breakfast, coffee & juice and open-faced sandwiches.  Lunch, I think
a bag of bogus "goldfish" crackers (no cheese flavor, but actually pretty
tasty) and some other snacky foods.  Dinner was a marginal pepper beef dish
at the local Chinese restaurant.


#7 of 27 by gregb on Mon Jul 7 00:51:46 2003:

Nothing special here.  Went out to din-din with me mum, which was an 
adventure:  First we hit our fav eatery, Pete's, but it was closed.  
Then went to Long John Silver, but left because there wasn't a smoking 
section for my Ma (we found out /after/ ordering our food, of course).  
We finally ended up at Big Boy, which is the last place I'd eat at.  Oh 
well.


#8 of 27 by jep on Mon Jul 7 02:38:33 2003:

My son and I went to Eaton Rapids and watched the fireworks with my 
parents.  They have a really nice fireworks display in Eaton Rapids.


#9 of 27 by albaugh on Mon Jul 7 04:04:19 2003:

July 4th went by here in the Philippines pretty much unnoticed.  I thought
that at some point Filipinos "observed" July 4 as "Filipino-American
Friendship Day", but there was nothing like that here in 2003.  Visited
Corregidor island yesterday, so I got my summer dose of American patriotism
and appreciation from another nation.


#10 of 27 by michaela on Tue Jul 8 16:54:19 2003:

My boy and I joined his friends at their cabin near Atlanta, MI.  We decided
to sleep in a tent.  :)  We did lots of stargazing and drank Woodchucks and
Guinness around the bonfire.  Saturday featured a trip to Gaylord (and showers
at my parents' house!) and then fireworks.  The weekend ended way too soon.


#11 of 27 by edina on Tue Jul 8 17:21:12 2003:

Tell me this is not Guinness from a bottle . . .


#12 of 27 by gelinas on Tue Jul 8 17:24:34 2003:

(You would prefer to hear "Guinnes from a can"?)


#13 of 27 by tod on Tue Jul 8 18:15:00 2003:

This response has been erased.



#14 of 27 by edina on Tue Jul 8 19:31:54 2003:

In truth, yes.  Guinness from a draugh can is much better than Guinness from
a bottle - though I've not had the new draught bottle yet.  Preferably, I'd
like my Guinness from a tap that has been set by Guinness, poured by someone
who actually knows how to pour it.  Ideally, I'd like to be at St. James Gate
having it . . .


#15 of 27 by tod on Tue Jul 8 19:40:52 2003:

This response has been erased.



#16 of 27 by gelinas on Tue Jul 8 19:56:00 2003:

(I've pretty much stopped drinking Guiness, since the only version I can get
realiably is "product of Canada."  I'll find other stouts to drink.)


#17 of 27 by bru on Tue Jul 8 20:32:48 2003:

so you ran out of Guinness and switched to woodchucks?   Woodchucks must have
been real happy.


#18 of 27 by edina on Tue Jul 8 21:39:14 2003:

HUH???  How do you go from Irish Stout to cider?

Jesus Todd - I am so jealous of you - I had no clue Seattle was hosting
Manchester United and Glasgow Celtic United!!!!!  That would be a game and
a half!


#19 of 27 by tod on Tue Jul 8 21:44:02 2003:

This response has been erased.



#20 of 27 by edina on Tue Jul 8 21:45:08 2003:

Hey now - don't diss Arsenal - Seaman has to play somewhere.


#21 of 27 by michaela on Tue Jul 8 22:15:27 2003:

Edina - it was Guinness from a draught can poured into the proper glass.  The
Woodchucks were for people who didn't want Guinness.

Although, we discovered that Black and Tans made from Guinness and Woodchucks
are quite tasty.  :)


#22 of 27 by scott on Wed Jul 9 06:17:10 2003:

I make my *own* stout - much much better than bogus Canadian "Guinness".


#23 of 27 by tod on Wed Jul 9 22:18:08 2003:

This response has been erased.



#24 of 27 by michaela on Wed Jul 9 23:41:54 2003:

Re #22 - send me some and prove it.  :)


#25 of 27 by scott on Thu Jul 10 07:12:44 2003:

Sorry, I don't distribute outside of my region.  ;)

Todd, pick up some Arrogant Bastard on your way here and I'll fix you up.


#26 of 27 by tod on Thu Jul 10 15:55:04 2003:

This response has been erased.



#27 of 27 by mynxcat on Thu Jul 10 16:43:24 2003:

Haha! Good comeback.


There are no more items selected.

You have several choices: