I am wondering if anyone here can help me. I badly need the descriptions of these species. They are Lispocephala atrimaculata, Lispocephala flavibasis,Lispocephala unicolor, Lispocephala vernalis. Maybe in some books they are called Caricea atrimaculata, Caricea flavibasis, Caricea unicolor, Caricea vernalis. Could anyone please help me to find the information about them? And from where do you find this information? If someone could tell me some websites of these species or books to look in, I would be very grateful.44 responses total.
This sounds suspiciously like a class assignment. ;>
Just for fun I did a little web searching - and am astonished at how many species of flies there are. Aren't there more of beetles? "When J. B. S. Haldane, remowned British physiologist and philosopher, was asked what his studies of nature revealed about God, he replied, "An inordinate fondness for beetles."
<laugh> I like that.
No, it's not a class assignment. Got a mail from a friend in China that needs info on this (she's working on a Ph.D. in Education, so can't think of why she needs fly info), but just thought I would post it here in case there are any entymologists here.
That was a long shot - but not impossible.
Well, yes, but it couldn't hurt to ask, right?
My experience is that it is hard to get any answers here to questions on obscure or specialist topics, except about computers. I said hard, not impossible, for there are some fonts of knowledge on some obscure topics - like, say, Rag Time music, or taxi driving.....
There are also a lot of people here who are better at googling than I am. And more than a few who are willing to give their detailed opinion, whether they know what they're talking about or not. :)
Hey, I resemble that remark!
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I tried googling, but didn't get anywhere. Guess I'll have to try to hit a university library for this one. Thanks anyway, people.
It is too specialized and also usually explained with diagrams since species separations involve minute details of many different body organs. Also, structural taxonomy is fading as DNA based technology grows.
Maybe so, but that doesn't answer the question. It was a long shot, but like I said, it didn't hurt much. I have seen a number of people here seem to be quite specialized in one area or another so I thought I'd take the chance. Now, if I can find some old books on this . . .
I wasn't answering a question, but just discussing likely reasons for a low probability of an expert on that specific topic to be a grex participant. Low, but not impossible, as I said. I'm familiar with taxonomic articles in other areas (concerning troglobytes and stygobytes) and they appear mostly in journals, since journal publication is necessary for the description of new species. Eventually they get gathered into books (I have some on the diatoms). So there must be such compilations on the flies. How about "TAXONOMY OF THE MUSCOIDEAN FLIES" (1908). You can find this and another several dozen such books at http://www.abebooks.c om/ if you search on <flies taxonomy>.
If she's working on a Ph. D, she should do her own fucking research. Don't contribute to the degredation of degrees.
We aren't talking about her sex life, where I agree she *should* do her own research, but getting "hints" to point ways to learn are considered legitimate in education. Teachers are supposed to be mentors, not just critics.
dolgr isn't a teacher, and surely by Ph. D time, she should be able to look up the names of some flies.
I'd say you should be right if this were a finishing PhD students, but you may not understand how callow and ignorant are beginning PhD students (my apologies to anyone to whom those descriptors applied).
I could look up the names of those flies and I'm never even been an undergraduate. It's trivial, and you are, sir, contributing to the degredation of degrees. (degrade-ation of degrees. how clever.)
OK. Go ahead, if it is so trivial.
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Rane, I couldn't do that and prove it without contributing to the degredation of degrees.
I think you are just stalling. Go ahead, "degrade" all of our degrees. I'd love to see your attempt to do it. The essence of the scientific method is open discourse, which includes showing others are wrong.
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Of course - but that doesn't mean that any of them are *wrong*.
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By comparing hypotheses with observations. dah has been touting a hypothesis. I am pressing him for supporting observations.
If her dregree was in entymology, I might be "degrading" it, but her thesis is in education. I doubt it the question is related to her studies as I see no direct relation of the taxonomy of flies to elementary education. Ask a simple question at grex, will you! Thanks, rcurl, I'll look for some old books at ABE. Have used the service several times before. .
If she's going to be a teacher, she should surely learn how to do her own research. You are degrading her degree; it's feeble.
One way to "do your own research" is to ask other people for leads.
It seems to me that dah's argument, taken to the extreme, would suggest that students aren't supposed to be taught at all; they're supposed to find out everything on their own, with no help.
30: she's asking dolgr to do it for her, not just give her a lead. 31: you're saying it's acceptable to be working on a Ph. D and not have the ability to look up things in reference books? I, for one, think Ph. Ds should be able to do at least that.
Sure - in education, since that was her discipline. It seems eminently sensible to ask for help in fields outside her expertise.
Reading isn't taught in elementary schools these days?
It is difficult to find the specialist literature in many topics - but I presume you have never tried? I'll give you a challenge, if you'd like to prove me wrong.
OKAY<GIVE ME THE CHALLENGE!
Describe Lispocephala atrimaculata, Lispocephala flavibasis,Lispocephala unicolor, Lispocephala vernalis. Maybe in some books they are called Caricea atrimaculata, Caricea flavibasis, Caricea unicolor, Caricea vernalis.
Circular arguments. how borign. But at least it shows dah is capable of saying something other than "AH HA HA HA!". Yippee. Something intelligent and coherent (if also controversial) too. wow.
rcurl: you know I can't do that without degrading degrees. Why would you ask me to do something against my principles?
Copout....
Do you do things against your principles merely because you're asked to do them?
(Someone with principles wouldn't be acting like a troll, here or anywhere.)
I guess you don't have principles, here or anywhere.
YEAH
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