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Item 205: The rich are finding ways to steal from YOUR mutual fund!

Entered by russ on Tue Sep 9 03:35:41 2003:

Sept. 7, 2003, 7:28PM
Fund scandal threatens very foundation of investing
By SHANNON BUGGS
Copyright 2003 Houston Chronicle

BUY and hold. Own shares for the long haul. Only fools time the
market. All orders received after 4 p.m. pay the next day's price.

These are the mantras the mutual fund industry has taught investors
to say and believe.

Last week, investors learned some fund families have been living by a
very different rule: "Do as I say, not as I do."

Eliot Spitzer, New York's attorney general, revealed the hypocrisy
when he announced a settlement with a hedge fund that received
privileges not given to most other shareholders from four prominent
fund companies in exchange for investing money in the funds, which
generated fees for the companies.

The funds -- Bank of America, Janus Capital Group, Bank One Corp. and
Strong Capital Management -- gave Canary Capital Partners access to:

· Closing-bell prices on share purchases made hours after the market
closed, despite federal laws prohibiting such look-back pricing.

· Up-to-date information on the stocks the fund owned and in what
proportion, information that most funds steadfastly refuse to share
with their shareholders or the public.

· Fee exemptions, continued trading access or other privileges in
violation of the companies' own stated rules discouraging or banning
frequent traders from investing in their funds.

Canary agreed to pay $40 million to settle the charges without
admitting or denying wrongdoing. And Spitzer has not charged any of
the fund families with a crime.

But what he has uncovered so far raises the concern that the level
playing field most Americans seek in education, employment and
economic opportunities may just be a myth -- an ideal this country
will never attain.

Mutual funds are supposed to be the no-nonsense, safe and easy way to
achieve your financial dreams.

Want to send a child to college? Invest money each month in mutual
funds held in a state-sponsored college savings plan.

Want to retire early? Live on a smaller sum each month and put the
rest of your paycheck into mutual funds held in your
employer-sponsored retirement plan.

The mutual-fund industry convinced 95 million Americans to entrust it
with their savings and economic security because it promised we were
all playing the same game with the same rules.

The fund manager gave us the expertise and experience that we did not
have the time to gain on our own. The other shareholders gave us the
financial clout to buy large positions in stocks and bonds.

That gave the children and grandchildren of survivors of the
Depression the confidence to stop saving money in a mattress and start
investing their way to prosperity.

That's why it's a gut punch to middle-income America's stomach to
find out the companies that fashion themselves as the small-investor's
champions on Wall Street may be selling them out.

"A mutual fund that sets up two sets of rules is a travesty," says
George Ball, chairman of president of Sanders Morris Harris, a
Houston-based private investment bank. "That violates the whole spirit
of the industry."

If Spitzer's scrutiny digs up more hypocrisy, the ensuing scandal
could undermine investor confidence in the markets more than Enron's
collapse, Arthur Andersen's accounting shenanigans and the Wall Street
brokerage firms disingenuous stock research.

If that happens, Congress would be forced to take drastic steps to
rebuild investors' trust.

One step might be to revive and bulk up the Mutual Funds Integrity
and Fee Transparency Act, which passed the House Financial Services
Committee this year but wasn't introduced in the Senate.

The mutual fund industry lobbied hard against a provision that was
removed from the bill that would have required fund companies to
reveal how a fund's costs compare to index funds and the rest of its
peers.

Fees are a particularly contentious issue in the mutual fund
industry. It's common practice for some funds to pay higher commission
fees to brokerage firms that execute their trades in exchange for
research and other services.

Shareholders pay those higher costs, known as soft-dollar
arrangements, even though shareholders pay management fees with the
expectation that the fund managers research for themselves the stocks
and bonds they buy for the portfolios they manage.

Questions also have also been raised about why funds closed to
newcomers continue to charge fees that are supposed to be collected to
recoup some of the costs of attracting new investors. These 12b-1 fees
no longer just pay for advertising but have evolved into profit
generators for some funds.

Lawmakers also may consider adding provisions that ban market timers
from mutual funds not specifically set up to attract that kind of
investor. This practice lowers long-term investors' returns by forcing
fund managers to pay commission costs on the quick sales and to keep
cash on hand for redemptions, which means that money cannot be used in
other, more-profitable ways.

We all have too much at stake to let the ideal of a level playing
field remain a fantasy.

Shannon Buggs has completed the personal finance planning certificate
program at the University of Houston. While she invites comments and
column ideas, she cannot offer specific advice about individual
situations. E-mail her at shannon.buggs@chron.com or call
713-220-6834.

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/business/2085334
36 responses total.

#1 of 36 by mary on Tue Sep 9 12:04:51 2003:

Have they stoned Martha yet?


#2 of 36 by gull on Tue Sep 9 13:45:00 2003:

I suspect there won't be as much public outcry over this as there was
over Enron.  It's a bit more abstract, and there's no group of people to
interview that has been completely wiped out.


#3 of 36 by other on Tue Sep 9 13:50:48 2003:

It just not a "sexy" story.


#4 of 36 by eprom on Tue Sep 9 22:00:47 2003:

If you want a diverse portfolio stick to ETF's (QQQ, SPY, DIA, IWM, etc..)
you also don't have to worry about MF managers churning the fund.


#5 of 36 by aaron on Wed Sep 10 00:24:30 2003:

The bigger scandal is perhaps how excessive executive compensation packages
are looting corporations of investors' funds. But nobody wants to think about
that right now, it seem, or its consequences for self-funded retirement plans.


#6 of 36 by gull on Thu Sep 11 03:47:13 2003:

I remember hearing on the radio today that in the 1970s, CEOs made on
average 100 times what the average worker made.  Today it's either 500 times
or 1000 times, depending on which study you look at.  Studies have also
found that corporate performance and executive salaries are not correlated
in any way.


#7 of 36 by klg on Thu Sep 11 17:02:35 2003:

Yes.  CEOs appear to be stealing from the stockholders.


#8 of 36 by gull on Thu Sep 11 19:38:25 2003:

Absolutely.  The question is, what can be done about it?


#9 of 36 by other on Thu Sep 11 20:52:21 2003:

The problem is somewhat compounded by the increasing rate at which 
smaller investors are using funds rather than direct investment.  That 
means they are less likely to be fully informed about annual shareholder 
meetings and the issues presented at them, and to actually make their 
voices count.

This means that power primarily devolves to massive stockholders in 
individual companies, and boards of directors, most of whom are already 
quite wealthy and perfectly willing to sacrifice the interests of those 
who voices thay'd have to strain to hear anyway.


#10 of 36 by klg on Fri Sep 12 00:08:22 2003:

Au contraire.  Does not the increasing concentration of individual 
stockholder interests into mutual funds and pension funds put more power 
into the hands of the professional managers whose full-time jobs are 
handling investements?  For example, just look at the pressure that 
CALPERS has brought to bear on companies in which it holds major 
interests.


#11 of 36 by other on Fri Sep 12 01:02:10 2003:

Isn't CALPERS a private fund with its own agenda?  Mutual funds that are 
open to anyone isolate investors from the drudgery of individual company 
balance sheets, quarterly reports and shareholder meetings.


#12 of 36 by gull on Fri Sep 12 13:58:20 2003:

Some statistics I saw today about the widening gap between the rich and
the middle class and working poor.  These are based on Congressional
Budget Office statistics:

From 1979 to 2000...
the poorest 20% of the population increased their after-tax income by 9%.
the middle 20% increased their after-tax income by 15%.
the top 20% increased their after-tax income by 68%.
the top 1% increased their after-tax income by 201%.

In 1997 the top 1% of households had more wealth than the bottom 95%
combined.


#13 of 36 by klg on Fri Sep 12 16:22:51 2003:

So?  What is your point?


#14 of 36 by other on Fri Sep 12 17:18:05 2003:

13:  You're not that stupid.  


#15 of 36 by klg on Fri Sep 12 19:49:30 2003:

Perhaps.  You explain it, then.


#16 of 36 by carson on Fri Sep 12 21:04:13 2003:

(those who have money are better at making/earning/investing/managing it?)


#17 of 36 by remmers on Sat Sep 13 12:39:42 2003:

(How do you explain their remarkable increase in skill between 1979
and 2000?  Improved nutrition?)


#18 of 36 by carson on Sun Sep 14 17:44:53 2003:

(more money?  widening global market?  improvements in technology?)


#19 of 36 by remmers on Mon Sep 15 17:00:14 2003:

(that wouldn't be "skill")


#20 of 36 by carson on Mon Sep 15 18:20:16 2003:

(this is true, John, but you're not that stupid.  you simply made a 
quite-likely-false assumption that the increases in income between 1979
and 2000 were due to some intangible increase in skill, whereas I'm
suggesting that other factors were involved that account for the 
disparity.  I suppose we could settle our disagreement over this point
by comparing numbers from, say, 1960 to 1980, or even by looking at two
10-year spreads instead of a single 21-year spread.)


#21 of 36 by gelinas on Mon Sep 15 20:28:51 2003:

(Reading from #12, I get the impression that you are talking out of context,
carson.)


#22 of 36 by remmers on Mon Sep 15 23:36:48 2003:

(re #20: you first brought up skill (in #16), not me.)


#23 of 36 by dah on Tue Sep 16 22:07:37 2003:

(Hi!)


#24 of 36 by carson on Wed Sep 17 02:00:10 2003:

(John, you suggested a skill *increase* in resp:17.  I never suggested
that any skill had increased, rather that it was extant and could be a
possible reason for a widening economic gap, especially when combined
with factors that I mentioned in resp:18.)

(however, if you happen to think that money-managing skills have increased
among the general public, you just might be right.  I just read a Census
report that says in the year 2000, 84% of people over the age of 25 had
completed high school, with 26% having a bachelor's degree or higher.  the
figures for 1975 were only 63% and 14%, respectively.)

(Joe, we've been slowly drifting out of context for a while.  we've gone
from abuses/improprieties by mutual fund managers to CEO pay increases to
a widening economic gap.  if you can tell me what point resp:12 was trying
to make within the context of what preceded it, I'll be happy to rein in 
my comments instead of trying to guess just what that point was.)


#25 of 36 by gelinas on Wed Sep 17 05:04:49 2003:

(My point was that 16 specifically opined skill as the point of #12.  When
asked how to explain the increase of skill, you went off on a tangent.  Start
reading from #12, then explain how I misunderstood you.)


#26 of 36 by carson on Wed Sep 17 16:28:30 2003:

(Joe, items don't happen in a vaccuum and I can't read minds, but I'll
do my best to restate myself.  truth be told, I'm *still* trying to figure
out the intended point of resp:12 myself.) 

(to the best of my interpretation, what we had in the beginning of this
item was a discussion about mutual fund companies, their managers, their
investors, and their influence on business.  along comes a factoid about a
widening economic gap [which, now that I've had a day or two to consider,
I now believe was intended for another item, perhaps one on income taxes]
that, on the surface, doesn't have any relation to the discussion.)

(so what's a casual BBSer to do?  if you're me on the evening of September
12, 2003, you try to find the non-obvious connection, which is what I did,
and I began by trying to figure out just why the economic gap might widen
and how that might relate to mutual funds.  "if you're struggling to make
ends meet, you don't have much in the way of disposable income.  if you
don't have disposable income, you're not investing it.  if you have
disposable income, you might try investing it.  if you're investing in a
mutual fund, you're trusting someone else to manage the money.  managers
of mutual funds are managing a lot of money.  some high-yield investments
require a lot of money in order to participate.  mutual fund managers that
manage well have more money with which to play.  people with more money to
invest are probably seeing higher returns.  many of our richest people are
earning significant amounts from investments.  many of our poorest people
can't afford investments.  richer people have more opportunity to invest
because they have disposable income.  those who have money are better at
making/earning/investing/managing it.")

(there are some faulty assumptions and leaps of logic but so far, with
everything I've read, it's panned out.  even in resp:0 we have mutual fund
managers who have been able to work the system in order to make money for
themselves and their companies because they're *better* at working the
system, even if it's only for a short time [and involves a ridiculous
amount of impropriety and possible illegality].  I'm certainly willing to 
change my mind in the face of better reasoning; until then, I'm sticking
by my comment in resp:16.  Joe, would it have been more palatable to you
if I had included "more education?" in resp:18 in addition to everything
else?)




#27 of 36 by gelinas on Wed Sep 17 16:52:21 2003:

The problem with #16, and your last, from my point of view, is described in
your statement, "we have mutual fund managers . . . *better* at working the
system, even if . . . [and involves a ridiculous amount of impropriety and
possible illegality]."  'Twas noted in #0 that their actions WERE illegal.
That is, bluntly, a form of theft.  Sure, pickpockets are skillful, but we
still put them in jail for practicing their art, and we don't hold them as
models to emulate, as the "rich getting richer because they are better it"
does.


#28 of 36 by carson on Wed Sep 17 21:51:34 2003:

(I didn't gather that anyone mentioned in resp:0 had served any time.
further, I'm getting the strong impression that I wasn't as out of context
as you would have liked for me to be, rather that my comments didn't
complement your world view.  are we reading the same item, Joe?  can you
tell the difference between objectivity and subjectivity?)


#29 of 36 by gelinas on Wed Sep 17 22:11:44 2003:

"The funds -- Bank of America, Janus Capital Group, Bank One Corp. and
 Strong Capital Management -- gave Canary Capital Partners access to:
Closing-bell prices on share purchases made hours after the market closed,
despite federal laws prohibiting such look-back pricing" (Resp 0).

So they've not yet gone to jail.  They still broke the law.

Were all those who made out like bandits in the past six years actually
bandits?  Probably not.  Were they all extremely skilled money managers?
Again, probably not.  Does more disposable income explain their increased
wealth?  Possibly; it's often said that it takes money to make money.

Is there any way that the statement in #16 is not a gross simplification
of a complex subject?  Nope.


#30 of 36 by tod on Wed Sep 17 22:51:10 2003:

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#31 of 36 by klg on Thu Sep 18 01:04:59 2003:

Didn't somebody who reported to Fastow just get 5 yrs. - a reduction in 
return for his testimony???


#32 of 36 by tod on Thu Sep 18 03:29:36 2003:

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#33 of 36 by carson on Thu Sep 18 10:56:53 2003:

(I don't disagree with the last paragraph of resp:29.  I think, Joe, that
you've missed the purpose.  and, I'm still waiting to see what the point
of resp:12 was.)



#34 of 36 by gull on Thu Sep 18 14:42:55 2003:

I just thought it was related, admittedly vaguely.  It's hard to argue
that the widening gap between rich and poor has nothing to do with the
huge increases in CEO compensation, which basically amount to CEOs
plundering from the stockholders and general employees.


#35 of 36 by klg on Thu Sep 18 16:10:26 2003:

Mr tod,

You stand corrected:

First ex-Enron exec sentenced to prison
Published in Portsmouth Herald - Indexed on Sep 15, 2003 
HOUSTON - A former Enron Corp. treasurer pleaded guilty Wednesday to a 
federal conspiracy charge and became the first executive sentenced to 
prison in the scandal that toppled the energy company. U.S. District 
Judge Kenneth Hoyt sentenced Ben Glisan to five years in prison on a 
conspiracy charge, the maximum term allowed. Prosecutors said there was 
no deal to implicate higher-ranking executives such as Enron's former 
chairman Kenneth Lay and former chief executive Jeffrey Skilling. 
Glisan, 37, will be under supervised release for three years after 
completing his prison term.


#36 of 36 by tod on Thu Sep 18 17:12:32 2003:

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