As the KIA count increases in Iraq of our own patriots, increases little beyond what would normally be "training accidents" in such a large scale operation it is interesting to note a few facts. The "body count" in Iraq of US troo[s is less than that of the murder rate in Chicago over the same period of time. Here in Chicago we are at peace, but Iraq is a "quagmire"? But there is a gang-war going on here... No, what is interesting is that the body count of Iraqi patriots killed in the same events is about the same as our own. For every "drone" of the "bushies" killed there is an Iraqi patriot who is fighting for his or her own country who dies along with "the drone", fighting for the same goals, sacrificing for the same ends, giving his life for the same concept - liberty.14 responses total.
I think it's interesting that we've now lost more people after "major combat" was declared over than we lost in the actual war. We won the war, but we seem to be in danger of losing the peace.
Have we come up with an answer yet as to what we are doing over there? Saddam isn't in power. Iraq isn't the threat to our national security. And the Iraqi people want us to end our occupation of their land. Other countries want to help but we are refusing to release our power grip. All of this is simply breeding new terrorists. Someone should spank our butt.
"And the Iraqi people want us to end our occupation of their land." And, how would you know this? From Dr. Dean? Reports from those on the ground state that Iraqis fear what might happen if the US were to pull out prematurely. And, why should we "release our power grip" to a bunch of losers who are sure to screw up in Iraq as they have done elsewhere around the globe? Is that Dr. Dean talking, too?
let's turn iraq into shannon county south dakota!
I that where Wall Drug is?
Re #2: I disagree. We broke Iraq, now it's our job to put it back together. It would be wrong for us to leave before the basic infrastructures for power, water, sanitation, and day-to-day security have been recreated. Iraq was never a threat to national security, but that's no longer the issue. The issue now is that we have to clean up the mess we helped create. That's life.
If we shouldn't have invaded in the first place, what makes you think that we will do something esle that we should?
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And we don't even seem to be getting any oil out of it.
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True, but its much easier to create a mess than it is to clean it up.
RE#1 Did you even read #0? If so what is your point? The fact that we have lost more in the lull than in the major combat shows the success of our attack. Iraq was a threat to every freedom loving nation. It was a proven state sponsor of terrorism. It gave $$ to the families of palestine's suicide bomber. good point #0 I haven't heard any liberals whine about Chicago's murder rate. I guess it's not on the liberal agenda. They just want to find fault with the great republican party.
C'mon - Iraq was a threat to very few "freedom loving nations", if any. It was not a proven state sponsor of terrorism apart from those dumb reparations, and those were awards, not sponsorship. We liberals are having the faults of the republican party thrust into our laps - we don't have to "find" them.
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The deathtoll in the chicago "quagmire" skyrocketed today. Nine KIAs, seven of them in one building. (oddly enough, the two deaths in a traffic accident snarled one highway so an employee arrived late and was just walking in the door when the only one of the employees to escape grabbed him and they both rushed across the street to call the cops) I think I'll start listing the after action reports. From just last week: - An 8-year old girl sitting on her front porch is caught in gang crossfire and later dies. Police retaliate by announcing a crackdown on both gang's members that will continue until they give up the mopes who done it. So far arrests have envolved such serious crimes as jaywalking, spitting on the sidewalk, possessing an open can of beer in public, parking too far away from the curb, obstructed view (bobble-head doll on rear dash - yeah, the CPD cops can get real creative), loitering, and whatever else they can think of. Even jailed members are not immune as they are now prohibited from having mustard on their balogna and white-bread sandwiches (every meal is), TVs are permanently tuned to PBS (no more _America's Most Wanted_), air conditioning has been turned off (to save money), and the automated fingerprint ID system has "broken" and manual backup system is in operation (it takes much longer for all mopes to bail out) and everybody knows why. The "jumpout boys" are also specifically targeting the two gangs. (THe ACLU is "monitoring the situation"...) - a "retired" gang leader walking his dog early morning was shot. Eight hits from a 15-round clip at point blank range (I teld yah before these 'bangers can't shoot fer shit) and despite the best efforts to leave him on the ground as long as possible and transport to the furthest possible ER the mope is still alive.
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