It is full summer now, the heart of June,
Not yet the sun-burnt reapers are a-stir
Upon the upland meadow where too soon
Rich autumn time, the season's usurer,
Will lend his hoarded gold to all the trees,
And see his treasure scattered by the wild and spendthrift
breeze.
-Oscar Wilde
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Wow, I think this is the first time I was the first person here.
(I was just thinking of saying that a copule moments ago, but figured that might cause me to be branded an M-Netter.)
New users: Hi everybody! You are in the agora conference, in item 1. Item 1 sometimes gets very long and, well, it's often full of statements like "this is response number 100, isn't that exciting?!", which really, of course, isn't all that exciting. Unless you're the one who got response 100. There are much more interesting discussions elsewhere on Grex. If you don't want to read through everything in item 1, press your "q" key at the "press Spacebar for more" prompt. Then, at the "Respond or pass?" prompt, type "stop". Next, type "browse", to see a numbered list of item titles. Say items 37 and 53 sound to you like they're really interesting. At the "Ok:" prompt, type "read 37 53" to see them. Another option instead of "browse" is to type "selections" to see some items that someone else (probably me) thought were interesting. If you're using the web interface to the conferences (Backtalk) there is a button you can click to see a list of the items. The Agora conference has a lot of interesting discussion in it -- please do go look for it! Welcome to Grex! (text originally written by Valerie Mates)
Hello hello (I'm in the top 5, pretty good for me!) I'm Anne, a resident of Ann Arbor (technically Pittsfield Township I guess) and I share an apartment with bhelliom, and two cats (one mine- Sasha and one hers- Magnus) and an adorably neurotic dog named Loki. Welcome to Summer!
Hi hi! I'm Twila and I'm number 6. shades of the prisoner!
(well actually #5... Number 5 is alive? ;) )
Fucker.
(finally, summer in a warm climate! I can sweat like the rest of the trolls!) <carson goes off to get some more lemonade>
Well, Phil just went on my "IGNORE" list. Congrats, Phil! Greetings all! As the ID says, I'm Greg, a resident of Taylor, MI, about 25 miles SW of Motown (that's Detroit for all you intn'l folk). I've been hanging 'round Grex off'n'on for a couple years now; Mostly off, but working on making it more permanent. Hey, I might even become a paying member! Agora's my hangout here on Grex. Not because I don't like any of the other confs. There's just sooooo much to read here, or at least there will be...Trust me. Re. #3: I can't help but feel that Backtalk users are the stepchildren of Grex. Everytime there's talk about how to do something, it's assumed people are using a shell, which I know a lot of people use. How 'bout making things more even-handed. And something like "there's a button you can press" just don't cut it. OK, that's enough from me...for now B-) PS: I made the top 10...WOOHOO!
You're welcome, gregb.
re #9- What about those of us who started via telnet and then switched to Backtalk when it became available?
YEAH WHAT ABOUT THOSE OF US?
Any one of you is welcome to rewrite that text for Backtalk and post here...
I appear to be 14, but that could change. No biggie, I'll hit driving age yet.
HI EVERYBODY
Sum, sum, summer time!
Hello , I am Abhijit. I am not good at keeping up with agora.
I am. Eric.
Hi everbody.i am parth.
Hi, I'm Twill.
Clink, Clink, find me a drink.
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Mynxie/mynxcat/sapna - take your pick. I've tried ignoring this item for as long as possible
As the author of Backtalk, I like to imagine that there is less talk about how to do things in Backtalk because there is less to be said about it - it is all supposed to be fairly obvious, and there are extensive help pages if it isn't. (The help pages say a lot of things like "Press the 'item list' button to get a list of items"). It's also to be admitted that there is less you can do in Backtalk. Piping your input through Figlet is probably not so easy. It should also be pointed out that there are five different Backtalk interfaces on Grex currently, and you do things differently in different ones. In abalone there is no "item list" button.
re #14: (...but never puberty.)
2*13 I'm Anna.
3.1415926 Hi, Anna!
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Nimen hao! I'm Sylvia, the aforementioned bhelliom. The adorably neurotic dog named Loki is also mine. (see resp:4) Welcome to Summer!
5*6 3*10 2*15 1*30. I'm Jonathon. I was almost a math major, but I'm in computer science, instead.
(prime, unless somebody slips in while I'm composing this response...) I was a math major to the max, going so far as to get a Ph.D. in the subject. But now, like dcat, I'm in computers science. Go figure. I've been with Grex since its conception. For a serious hobby, I play ragtime piano.
I'm Jonathan, chillin' here in the Pacific Northwest-- southeastern Washington State, that is. Speaking of Backtalk, I moved from the original shell to the abalone version some time ago. It seems much more convenient to me and about as fast unless I was able to directly dial in somehow. I don't use party all that often anymore, and have forgotten most of the PicoSpan commands that I did learn, so Backtalk suits me just fine.
REMMERS IAS A PH D?!?!??!?!?!?!
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re #18. I am. Eric. as well, however, not the same Eric. I'm a student at Syracuse University, and I like to talk about hockey.
to elaborate on resp:30, cause i've been at work for 7.5 hours and am bored out of my mind, I'm between schools ATM; after two years at Oberlin College in Ohio and one at Washtenaw CC in Ann Arbor, I'll be at U. Pittsburgh in the fall. I'll also be minoring in linguistics. I also like to talk about hockey, although i don't know nearly as much about it as ea.
Wow. It's an honest-to-goodness grex convergence. Snowth goes to Pitt, and I'll be going there myself in the fall.
excellent!
I'm Brooke - resident of Northern Virginia, worker in our nation's capital. My mother is arriving today to enjoy the Smithsonian's Folklife Festival. Ack!
Pittsburgh has some great restaurants, believe it or not...
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jmsaul -- Where would you reccomend? I've actually had pretty good experiences with Pittsburgh restaurants, but I also didn't get out much when I was living there before, so there's bound to be lots of places I've never heard of.
I can dig up names, but on our last trip there we went to a Peruvian place, a Thai place that's better than anything in a 50-mile radius of Ann Arbor, and a Brazilian barbecue place. All outstanding. (Well, the Peruvian place wasn't necessarily outstanding, but it was really good.) There's also Kaya (caribbean fusion) and Umi (supposedly a brilliant sushi chef, but I haven't made it there yet). A friend of mine used to be head chef at Kaya, and knows all the good places to go. I can put you in touch with them if you want.
We got fresh lichis at an Asian food store there.
How did you get there? It'd be a hell of a bike ride.
Wow. Haven't been to any of those. I'd love a name on the Thai place, at least.
From my friend: The place we went to is Bangkok Balcony on Forbes Avenue (I don't know the number off the top of my head) in Squirrel Hill. It's favored by the foodies in my crowd, but there are some other good ones as well. One of them recently changed ownership and name, and the other one I haven't visited in ages, so I have forgotten what it's called, but I'll do the necessary research. Your friend will also want to check out Spice Island Tea House on Atwood in Oakland (where we had the tea leaf salad) and its sister restaurant down the street, Road to Marrakesh, which specializes in African cuisine. (Those other places are also great, we just didn't visit them this time around)
Cool. Thanks for the tips.
what he said. I definitely look forward to the Thai place(s). . . .
The Brazilian place is awesome, if you're a carnivore and willing to spend the money.
Mrrf. I'm a carnivore, but I'm a cheap carnivore.
anyone know a way to get money really fast?
Steal it.
I've got this email here about MAKEing MONEY FAST!......
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Generally, you get more money by assuming more risk, putting more money in, and/or doing things nobody else wants to do. For instance, garbage collectors and plumbers make pretty good money. The 400 richest people in the country save more in their income taxes than you'll ever make in your lifetime. Jet test pilots make pretty good money as well. If you aren't rich and/or suicidal, you might as well go with plumbing, electricity, or garbage.
Read: "The Millionaire Nextdoor".
You can also make a lot of money by doing things that no one else is able to do. However, odds are quite good that anything you can do, someone else can learn to do. This also isn't necessarily a quick route to success, as many years can be required to demonstrate that you really can do this and no one else can.
Roofers get paid pretty well but sometimes they fall off, and it can get quite hot or cold or wet up on a roof.
ROOFERS, lol!
To judge from the social & ethnic makeup of roofing crews that i've seen, roofing neither well-paid nor desirable work.
Metal roofing with crimped seams pays at least $50/hour, union.
Ah! I've generally seen residential (non-union) roofers. Though $50/hour sounds rather high...that's not the rate the roofers charge the customer, is it?
Is there anyone here who wants to be ordered aroun?
Dunno. If you tell us what 'aroun' is, someone surely will want some.
The problem with roofers is there are actually plenty of immigrants who are willing to do it. The roofers aren't necessarily well-paid, but somebody is definitely making boatloads of moeny off the whole process, and it isn't the homeowner.
Our experience is that roofers are very fast and very sloppy. One put his foot through a room ceiling when working near the eave of our house. (They had it fixed, but it shouldn't have happened.) They also left a lot of debris (pieces of roofing, nails) all around the house. But it really isn't a highly skilled task. The roofing is designed to go on easily: its even easier than putting on paint (although hard physical work).
Some roofers caught the house around the corner on fire.
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A 2-story house near where i work was 1-story after the roofers took a risk on a hot, dry, windy day. Re: #69 Please tell me about the well-paid or desirable full-time low-skill manual labor jobs held in this area mainly by 2nd- and 3rd-world men with indifferent english skills, working outside of their ethinc communities. It ain't racist to say that America uses a hell of a lot of lower- social-class folks from poorer countries to do the work that Americans ain't much willing to touch themselves.
We biked out to a worksite once for some free scrap metal sound channel and discovered that the framing was being done by Americans with very loud boomboxes and lots of beer and junk food, and the drywall team was entirely Mexican and did not smoke. They all brought large foil packages of yummy smelling lunch and appeared to be working very hard. I hope they were paid at least half as much as the loud Americans. They were extremely polite to us (even found someone who spoke English). Drywalling is physically demanding and rather boring. Our former Costa Rican neighbors used to work washing dishes or painting houses - quite possibly without the green card you would need for construction. I run across a lot of Mexicans doing street building.
Well, guess what as the economy worsens theres alot of Americans who need those 8-11 dollar and hour jobs to survive. Guess whose got them now? All those immigrants? Remind me again how it's racist? How bout big Tech. Companies sending all their jobs offshore? I think it's time everyone admit its not about low paid jobs Americans wont do, because Americans are being forced to do low paying jobs or else big business will just ship the labor of to someone in india, or let illegals and immigrants 3 of them make 5 bucks and hour instead of you making 15. It's our job as consumers to let them know if they aren't going to play nice and appreciate the uniqueness and ingenuity of the American worker, that they also don't get to enjoy the frivilous and sometimes extravagant spending of the american consumer. Some business's have already caught on to that trend as well, thus the success of walmart and discount stores. Americans are already pinching their pennies. Big business wont get the msg how ever until companies start going down like flies. Then in the end what we are facing is a smaller selections, less competition and more huge conglomerates that do everything for us and hopefully people will start more mom and pop stores to cater to specialised markets. This country is in the midst of a transformation. And its not the one we want as Americans, we are being phased into the mediocre low-wage, doldrum of a life many other nations have experience for years before us. We are becoming the proletariats of this era. If you don't believe it, check on the web about how much vacation time other nations give their workers vs THE US.
The last crew of roofers I had working on my house consisted entirely of Russians. The only one who spoke English was the foreman. Maybe they were well paid - the roofing company certainly was - but I doubt it, and I'm not sure how doubting it makes me a racist. Are Russians a race now? Well, I suppose they were well paid compared to what they'd get in Russia.
As things like transportation get cheaper and as things like telecommunication gets cheaper, expect to see a more global economy. A truely global economy will mean global labor markets which will mean that wages in the US will probably fall.
Three volleys means a topic is going well. Time for a new item.
resp:73 Russians? Most of the 'Russian' people I meet are usually from one of the former Soviet republics-- say, Moldovia, Usbekistan, etc. I did have a music professor from St. Petersburg, though. Her English was somewhat broken but the music chair said her German was fantastic. Took History of Russian Music with her, only 500 level class I took in college.
Dunno. The foreman said they were Russians. Apparantly all relatives of his. Probably he knew where they came from.
resp:75 - If you want one, feel free to start one. I am sure no one will mind.
Hi this is lary aksdf ajkerui vkjd asdfa how do i cgat
has any1 been in Brazil?
nope
reetins from the Kongsberg Jazzfestival, here in sunny Norway! Actaully I'm far enough south that it's gradually starting to get dark at night, although the sun starts coming up again around 3-4am. Busy, and I'm typing on one of those annoying QWERTY keyboards so I'll cut it short.
What kind of keyboard do U normally type on?
(I think he uses Dvorak whenever possible.)
Ah, a rebel. B-)
scott .. mta's son (also a grexer) is in norway, or sweeden .. dunno which so maybe the two of you can hook up and chat. nice trip if you can do it, btw. kewl.
Haven't had much (any) luck hooking up with people I know in the region - this is the season when everybody goes off on vacation. Whew. I'm tired, but the festival is finally done. Didn't get to do the sort o work I wanted, but it's still been pretty interesting.
Both of Misti's sons are in Sweden.
Two of Misti's sons are in Sweden. ;-)
oops, it is still hard to believe she has a new little one.
hi im new here...call me coolnet and send me some mail so i know thers somebody there COOLNET986532741@ofir.dk later guys/girls pass type quit
Just keep checking back here, Cool. We're here.
I don't see any question.
Hello everyone! I'm Tekkie, and I just signed up. This is fun! I don't know if this is the right place to display this, but oh well, sorry. I have a website at http://www.icekriby.0catch.com and a message board at http://www.icekribyforums.cjb.net that's about it bye!
Hey, Tek, how's it goin'? Your in about as right a spot as you can get.
I got error pages on both of the URLs you posted.
hi anne!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hi, nice summer ore what ;) where do u boys and girsl live.
I'm in the sagebrush steppes of southeastern Washington, in the Columbia Basin. As far as steppes go, they do make for good land for wheat-- through irrigation. We have three intersecting rivers here for irrigation-- the Columbia, Snake, and Yakima. This also makes for some fun summertime activities-- waterskiing, tubing (float the river), and fishing. If you go down towards the border and into Oregon, the windsurfing is good.
<waves> Hi Jules!!
that was amazing. do !man gate ok
jaklumen IS having one fine time!
I wish I was doing all that-- I'm a bit of a bum with no boat. But yes, the weather is mighty fine.
shit just got back from galecia for the celtic festival... 46 newresponse items and 45 brandnew items uggh. beautiful place, great time.
Oval, we'd very much like to hear about the celtic festival, possibly in an item which could be linked to the music conference.
hi may hedfdss
Hi.
I'm Jeff, and since I've been here a month or so, I'm overdue for introducing
myself.
Many of you will already know me, but to recap, the vital statistics:
AGE: 25
HEIGHT: 5'4" approx.
WEIGHT: No Idea, but I'm a bit round ;-)
STATUS: Currently spongeing off parents :-(
PHYSICAL CONDITION: Disabled
EDUCATION: Bachelor of Arts in German and Spanish
Interests: Computers; Animals; Pets; History; Politics; Rugby, Motorsport;
Programming; Science Fiction; Fantasy; General Literature; Music (Rock,
Classical, Opera, Folk, Metal. Dance? When drunk. Techno? No no, no
no no no...
I live in Newcaste, North-East England, UK. I have lived in Cadiz, Andalusia,
Spain; Heilbronn, Southern Germany; La Coruna, Galicia, Northwest Spain
Would like to go to: Ireland, France, Spain (again!), Australia, America...
New Zealand..., Zambia (where I was born. No; I don't remember it; i
was there 5 days!)...
Anything else; ask me!
What do you mean, disabled?!
How did you happen to live in Spain and German, were you studying there?
Sindi - Yes; I studied in Spain and Germany for half a year each; I also taught for two years in Spain.
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Zambia is part of the Commonwealth; it is possible to have dual citizenship with Zambia but I doubt that would be formalized unless i applied for it; I'm also not sure whether all countries of the Commonwealth share dual citizenship rights with the UK; furthermore, if a British subject is resident in the Republic of Ireland he is able to vote in national elections there, though the Republic is outside of the Commonwealth.
I'm doing this backwards, but, danke schoen!
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The Grex board of directors is meeting in the KIDS room?! Okay, that's funny.
Dude, you didn't know that? They *always* meet in the kids room.
Unless they won't let us in.
Yup, we can decide the future of Grex and play with blocks at the same time. I still think the president should preside from the ball pit.
Grex is a kiddie organisation. heh. re 116 Nope.
Loose touch...
I'm giggling at the mental image of #119
Hi all, I'm a computer science student. I love Grex, coding and learning technologly. peace..... assume:nothing
im new at this place and it doesnt worth our time i dont understand anything... when i signed in i thout that i could learn some commends in unix but i cant find were can i lean them in this "place" help me if you can... Plz War...... <*@*>---\____/---\____/--------\________/-----------\__________/--------\_____ Tnx
Okay!
Get a copy of Unix for Dummies to get started. There is no unix instruction here, but there is plenty of opportunity to apply even a little knowledge of it.
Some observations (of summer): Some interesting signs on businesses on Warren Ave. west of the Southfield: DOG HOUSE Coney Island & Ham Place FROG Foreign Auto Supply At my place of work, a big truck resembling a garbage truck or a "sewer sucker" truck, its bed full of red wood chips, and nozzle for attaching a hose to spray them out.
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That "Coney Island & Ham Place" just tickles me. :-)
The Dog House, on Gratiot, was my father's restaurant. I grew up there.
Hello, I am Nathan Wilson, alias KenOhki; but you should already know that from the topic. I live in Henderson, NC, a horrible place. I am 16 and am bored here. I like messing with comps, watching anime, playing RPGs, and all sorts of other geeky stuff. This is my first shell account although I have used the bash shell in Linux often. Emacs rocks. I'm looking forward to being flamed--er, I mean discussing. ^_^_V
Welcome to Grex. It gets easier(TM).
Nathan Wilson is a kerl.
Hi Nathan - welcome to Grex!
I never thought of anime as all that geeky-- just sort of quirky. I like it. So what anime is your fave, Nathan?
Why are you a bigot?
Emacs sucks. It's *vi* that rocks. .
If you're not going to use Emacs, at least use *vim* instead of plain *vi*.
At this point, I can use vim on about 90% of the systems I log into, but there's still 10% where it's useful to be familiar with plain vi.
Sorry folks, it's plain vi for me. Too used to it to consider another editor.
Being bi-editorial, I like both emacs and vi/vim. How's that for weird? (Actually, I find the vim default configuration that comes with some linux distributions to be distinctly irritating -- tries to be helpful in various ways that I don't want and only serve to annoy me. How Microsoftish!)
I agree with the second paragraph. I prefer an editor that does what i want it to do rather than what the programmers assume I will want it to.
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<waits for bru to condole with remmers about being bi>
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Well said, old boy!
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Straight vi for me. I want an editor to do what I tell it to, not what it thinks I want it to.
"VI is to EMACS as masturbation is to making love: effective and always available but probably not your first choice..." That said, I use, and like using, both.
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Seems like vim will behave like vi if you use classic vi commands. The only thing that ever annoys me about vim setups is the use of color for various context things; I usually end up turning it off.
Yes, that's the annoyance that I had in mind.
vi or die.
I like the syntax coloring in vim. Plus I presume for many things you have to press more keys in emacs than in vim.
Whoa, I'm not that geek-a-holic yet. Pico's about all I know. Besides, much more fun to be a philosopher.
I like syntax coloring. Emacs and vim both do it pretty well. What annoys me is vim's coloring of search results, which it likes to remember and use in my next vim session when I no longer have any interest in the search item.
Well, the EMACS vs. vi thing is sort of a philosophical issue to some, so I don't see what the problem is. Pico is too wimpy to be considered.
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And ex.
I've never been able to deal with vi. I like EMACS and probably will continue using it until I'm unable to, by virtue of no one else supporting it.
re 161 -- that'll never happen as long as RMS is still alive, and probably long after. re 159 -- I've used ed. I even like ed. ed is fun. :) I use both Emacs and vi, frequently. I hate pico, and if it weren't built so tightly into PINE, I'd never use it at all.
Just use word, and forget about it.
Word sucks.
Anyway, "Word" is a word processor and therefore unsuited to certain kinds of text editing tasks.
Of course, there is a handy version of vim for Windows . . . has it's faults, but better than Notepad.
i alsways wonder why vi/vim users don't use mutt.
I use mutt usually. At Grex anyway.
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I've used TECO before. Once. Didn't much like it at the time. Haven't seen it since.
From Real Programmers Don't Use Pascal, which I see has just passed its 20th anniversary: http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/real.programmers.html ------------------------------------------------------------------- In some companies, text editing no longer consists of ten engineers standing in line to use an 029 keypunch. In fact, the building I work in doesn't contain a single keypunch. The Real Programmer in this situation has to do his work with a "text editor" program. Most systems supply several text editors to select from, and the Real Programmer must be careful to pick one that reflects his personal style. Many people believe that the best text editors in the world were written at Xerox Palo Alto Research Center for use on their Alto and Dorado computers[3]. Unfortunately, no Real Programmer would ever use a computer whose operating system is called SmallTalk, and would certainly not talk to the computer with a mouse. Some of the concepts in these Xerox editors have been incorporated into editors running on more reasonably named operating systems-- EMACS and VI being two. The problem with these editors is that Real Programmers consider "what you see is what you get" to be just as bad a concept in Text Editors as it is in Women. No, the Real Programmer wants a "you asked for it, you got it" text editor-- complicated, cryptic, powerful, unforgiving, dangerous. TECO, to be precise. It has been observed that a TECO command sequence more closely resembles transmission line noise than readable text[4]. One of the more entertaining games to play with TECO is to type your name in as a command line and try to guess what it does. Just about any possible typing error while talking with TECO will probably destroy your program, or even worse-- introduce subtle and mysterious bugs in a once working subroutine. For this reason, Real Programmers are reluctant to actually edit a program that is close to working. They find it much easier to just patch the binary object code directly.
I wrote a few TECO macros in my day. Completely unreadable by anyone else of course. A bonafide write-only scripting language.
I am sure Perl could give it a run, if it came to that. I used it only once on a VMS system. Didn't find it terribly bad, but then again, I only edited two lines.
bbedit
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/timidly raises hand But I like the Honeywell Bull Full Screen Editor to use as a text editor. Good monochrome editor. No wrong colors to get annoyed at.
EMACS *doesn't* mean Escape Meta Alt Control Shift? Man, am I disillusioned!
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Yep, apparently I am *so* not computer-programmer geeky. I feel like a right-brain in a room full of left-brains. I say, "cool, refreshing mauve on a summer day," and they say, "5D38X3 1010001001"
Whoa, this is cool. Just testing out some of the commands on here.
evil free or die (I just noticed for the very first time that live backwards is evil... ;-)
Today I noticed that the phone number listed for the Warren Ave. DOG HOUSE restaurant is 271-DOGS.
("doctor" spelled backwards is "rotcod")
"remmers" spelled backward is "sremmer".
Just for fun... what's everybody's age/sex/location on here? I'm 22/m/MN, USA.
Just for fun I am 26/m/India.
I don't do a/s/l checks. Droll as hell.
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Droll has an opposite meaning than what you mean, jaklumen.
Llord
31/M/LA, USA.
Oh ok... Not as old as remmers and younger than happyboy!/male or female/Meeeecheeegan
And you are awesome. You forgot that part.
Took my 9.9-year-old son to Comerica Park last night to see the Tigers play the Oakland A's. The weather turned out to be excellent. Some facts / thoughts: -Paid $15 to park across the street from the stadium. Could have paid $8 if I wanted to walk a few blocks (no thanks). -Had no problem getting some pretty decent tickets at the box office - row 14 3rd base side beyond the dougout (where I asked). 2 together for $60. Having walked around the stadium at / after the end of the game, there seem to be many good seats with good views, so no need to pay that much $ per ticket. -Refreshments ran thusly: $3.25 for 12oz bottle of pop. $3 for bottled water. $2.75 for hot dog. $3 for fries. Outrageous prices, but I guess it helps keep the vending people employed. -Comerica Park is a beautiful new facility, with great views of the surrounding city. -Impression: Sorry to be another to rip the Tigers, beat a dead horse, but they are horrid. They lost to the A's 9-3. It was 3-0, 3-2, 4-2 for a while, then 6-2 & 6-3 for a couple of innings, so it wasn't an immediate debacle. And it wasn't as though they played (at least last night) terrible baseball. They just can't win games. And the atmosphere at the park is one of "no hope". I told my son as we were going home that 20 years ago it was the Red Wings who were horrid (much to his amazement, given their excellence over the last 10+ years, during his lifetime), while the Tigers were still holding the city's interest, with a championship in 1984 and playoff appearance in 1987.
re #195 - if you wanted to watch minor league baseball, you should drive to Toledo and catch a mudhens game. Their stadium is very nice, similar sightlines to Comerica, but much more affordable. And the quality of the game is about the same.
i love the mudhens
i also love furs jeanne marie burke manigold bignasty!
Re 169: You know you can get a shell account at www.twenex.org . . . they run TOPS-20 and have a TECO editor you can use. :D
Yep, our Cub Scout Pack has a yearly outing now to one of the 3 (?) yearly "Friday night game and camp on the field after the fireworks" events the Mud Hens sponsor.
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I knew the minute I wrote "outing" some smart ass would take a different meaning... ;-)
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I like my name, slynne. :)
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209th. Ok, so we stopped counting, didn't we? I believe 209 is also prime, but I'm not great with math. For the unaware, My name is Jim, and I live south of the border. No, not THAT border, but just a scant 46 miles to the south of the People's Rep. of Ann Arbor. I am an Ohio type. I make my living running around Toledo at night looking for money, or that is, people with money. I take them places in my car. Before you get the idea that I'm some kind of weirdo the Toledo Police are looking for, I should tell you that my car is a cab, and I spend my nights driving it. Some nights I make money, and then there are some nights where I don't do so well. In the last 3 days, I have managed to make well over 350 bucks, and I didnt even go out of town, that is, if you don't count Perrysburg as being out of town. I drive a 1987 Toyota Tercel, which is my personal ride. My cab usually is a 1995 Olds minivan. These days I'm driving a '92 Crown Vic. I am thinking of starting a car club, the LRFC, or the Little Rusty Foreign Car Club. Only people with certain vintage Toyotas, Mazdas, Hondas, Datsun/Nissans would be eligible. Personally I dont think that idea will fly. My hobbies are Amateur Radio (N8LIC). I hold an Extra Class Plus Licence, because I had to get the 20 wpm code with my license. I also dabble in computers, and Aviation. I am currently playing with Flight Simulator 2002 Professional Edition, and I'm actually gaining some skill. All that means is that when I fly to Cleveland, I dont land in the middle of the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, and I put the plane where it belongs, on the runway at Burke Lakefront. I have put a few into Lake Erie. I am currently flying the Beech Baron 58. I have tried to fly the Boeings, but I have wrecked about 2 Billion dollars worth of planes. I shouldnt be flying the Boeings. I am a Sagitarius, which means I'm very flighty and have been known to change my mind in .0000001 secs. I share a birthday with Anders Celcius, Eddie Rabbit, and Cornielus Vanderbilt, which seriously worries me.
hi,usa
Re #209: 209 = 11*19
I'm ashamed to admit I share a birthday with Martha Stewart, but not Martin Sheen. I don't put much stock in astrology or calendar signs, although it was fun to check out my chart. I am a Leo married to a Pisces on the Aries cusp, and I am a Wood Tiger on the Chinese calendar. The real extent of my seriousness notes that fortunes in fortune cookies tend to be fairly generic, that it is fun to add "in bed" somewhere to them (usually the end), and that they are a Californian invention: they were invented to advertise a restaurant. I'm Jonathan, for those that don't know me. My hobbies include classical guitar and role-playing games. I work as a secretary for the City of Richland and am looking for full-time employment. I enjoy a fair variety of music, but my favorites include funk, various electronica genres, quiet storm, some disco (that was more funk influenced), and certain types of jazz. I generally disfavor country music, *especially* honky tonk, which drives me nuts. I fancy philosophy somewhat, although I'll admit I haven't been studying quite as much as I should. I just finished the Tao Te Ching and am continuing on the Tao of Pooh, which I consider a quirky, somewhat whimisical sort of commentary on the Tao. After that, I'll resume a philosophical treatise on lying. There's been a smidge of study of religion: Judaism including Kabbalah mysticism, and some study of the Ba'hai faith. All very interesting comparisons. I figure that I am a very subjective sort of thinker, which I figure leaves me mystified in understanding scientific and computer programming types. I am incredibly idealistic and a slight iconoclastic, which again leaves me baffled about the more traditionalist. "Don't fix it if it ain't broken" never seemed to ring true for me. Grex has been a wonderful place for discussion-- and I've always loved the specialty conferences. I do hope that agora gets out of the rut of the war discussion-- for me, anyway, it seems a little thin.
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re 212 You play classical guitar?! D00D you should check out www.eythorsson.com
You know, I'd love it if this item displayed which Agora number it is, because I always forget that stuff.
it's the one in your ~ with the highest number, man.
resp:214 An Icelandic school? Fascinating. Very nice site-- lots of sheet music.
i dont know what item this is, but tomorrow is my birthday.
Happy Birthday , It's already tomorrow in Singapore.
And now it's tomorrow here. Happy Birthday, jules.
Hi all I am a chronic masturbater, does anyone know where to get materials, such as full legnth movies? THANKS!
they have olsen twins vids for rent at the safeway down the street, lil peter.
re 223:
Preventing prostate cancer?
Wow, that is something to be proud of. Don't give yourself some fungal infection.
Re: #221 Used motor oil's a great lube. Yall wanna run it through a coffee filter first to get out any bits of metal an' stuff. Quick an' easy to clean up after with a bit o' gas - careful with da smokes though.
Chronic masturbator? You don't stroke to the point of pushing powder, do you?
eh>?
Bad joke, Carrie... the idea is that the spooge loses its juice on like the 100th time. But more likely, he'd get scabs from all the rubbing.
I decided to sell my 1984 Detroit Tiger World Championship Plaque on ebay. see http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2749118798 Quite a memory prize, for someone else now.
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re 230 You buy furry boots with high heels? GAY *ahem*
In line at the supermarket checkout, on the cover of a "teen" magazine adorned with a photo of the Olsen twins: "Hallway makeout sessions: Do's and Don'ts". Are you serious? I can write that article in ONE LINE: *Do* comply with the following: *Don't* be making out in the hallway!
Heard on the radio an ad for something that sounds like a really bad idea: Interest only mortgage payments. Sure, your payments are cheaper. But there's that little matter of the principal needing to be paid off, sooner or later...
Lifetime mortgages....why limit it to 30 years...try 60 or 90! I understand they have such things in California.
or naeative amortization, where the payment is less than
the interest, enlarging the principal balance.
THE POSITIVE SIDE OF LIFE Living on Earth is expensive, but it does include a free trip around the sun every year. How long a minute is depends on what side of the bathroom door you're on. Birthdates are good for you; the more you have, the longer you live. Happiness comes through doors you didn't even know you left open. Ever notice that the people who are late are often much jollier than the people who have to wait for them? Most of us go to our grave with our music still inside of us. If Wal-Mart is lowering prices every day, how come nothing is free yet? You may be only one person in the world, but you may also be the world to one person. Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once. Don't cry because it's over; smile because it happened. We could learn a lot from crayons: some are sharp, some are pretty, some are dull, some have weird names, and all are different colors... but they all exist very nicely in the same box. A truly happy person is one who can enjoy the scenery on a detour.
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Watch out for hackers.
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HEY GREEN
resp:237 I'm usually pretty happy after a big fart, too. But not when I sneeze at the same time.
it's a big sooprize!
saludos desde mexico capital
districto federal? saludos.
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Hy...this is cool..i nevr been to conference like this one..i love it...but can u people use an asl before typing a text here!10x and I`ll read every day the news from here!
ASL is neither that important nor that interesting. Hang out and see what people have to say.
If ASL isn't that important, how do you who you want to cyber with? <chortle>
Would you care to try that again, with a couple more verbs, krokus? If I understand the question, the answer is, "I don't."
Looking for love in all the wrong places...looking for love in cyberspaces.. How do you know we would be giving you the truth, if we gave asl?
First time i've heard that saying before. Is it common?
Which 'saying'? "Looking for love . . . "? It's from a song, slightly modified.
If you can do anything no-one else can, yhou are practically guarantied good money, so just invent something (wich, i know, is not as easy as it sounds)
Even if what you can do is really gross? Or maybe esp. because of thatt reason?
it's fine
No hay alguien que hable espa$ol...