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Grex Info Item 3: Becoming a member
Entered by danr on Sat May 16 21:44:56 UTC 1992:

As the new treasurer for Grex, I've been asked to say a few words
about why you should become a member of Grex.  Well, becoming a
member...
 
...helps keep Grex alive.  It pays the phone bills and the
electric bills.  (Besides, dead Grexes smell even worse than road
kills.)
 
...gives you the right to vote on some of the most pressing
issues of the day.  (Well, OK, the most pressing issues facing
Grex).
 
...will help us provide even more services.  Right now we are
working on expanding our disk space, which will allow us to
provide better Usenet news services.
 
...will make you feel like a really great person (just a little
poorer).
 
Membership costs $6 per month or $60 per year.  If you're a member for
at least three consecutive months, you can vote on issues that affect
Grex's future.  Members can also post Usenet news articles.
 
To become a Grex member, send a check made out to Cyberspace
Communication, Inc. to:
 
Dan Romanchik
2113 Arborview
Ann Arbor, MI 48103

24 responses total.



#1 of 24 by chelsea on Sun May 17 14:09:09 1992:

I like the road kills part. ;-)


#2 of 24 by tnt on Sun May 17 23:19:17 1992:

 Pay for Grex, not sex!


#3 of 24 by danr on Sun May 17 23:24:53 1992:

I forgot to mention that we will also gladly accept donations in any
amount and in any demonination (French francs or Czechoslovak
crowns, for example).

Every little bit helps!


#4 of 24 by danr on Sun Jul 26 13:59:50 1992:

I also forgot to mention that becoming a member allows to to post
articles to Usenet.

Keep those membership checks coming!


#5 of 24 by jeffk on Sun Aug 23 00:38:07 1992:

The alternator wasn't too bad and the money came from the joint savings...
looks like membership is coming!!!


#6 of 24 by popcorn on Sun Aug 23 15:01:16 1992:

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#7 of 24 by danr on Thu Oct 8 01:04:41 1992:

Thanks to Arthur Schwartz (aschw).  He's our newest member!


#8 of 24 by tsty on Fri Oct 9 01:34:49 1992:

hang on, cash Sat morning ... right after the walk (but not
enough to make a mugging worthwhile ...)


#9 of 24 by popcorn on Mon Nov 2 05:58:49 1992:

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#10 of 24 by pegasus on Wed Dec 2 20:01:23 1992:

Dan,

Could you let me know when you get my check?  I sent it out yesterday 12/1.
Thanks!

                                Pattie Rayl


#11 of 24 by chelsea on Thu Dec 3 00:16:51 1992:

Thank you, Patricia.  Your help is appreciated.


#12 of 24 by danr on Thu Dec 3 02:04:00 1992:

Will do, and thanks!


#13 of 24 by tsty on Sat Jan 30 21:05:19 1993:

Thought this idea needed a little boost - as do our membership
rolls.
  
We are in the process (fairly lengthy, not tomorrow) of testing
and adding 1 -> 3  drives that were donated from ??ARbor Text??
  
Electricity bill will change  -  but space opportuities will 
increase dramatically.
  
Users who become members permit these and other changes to be
accomplished.
  
Please join.


#14 of 24 by danr on Sat Jan 30 23:13:32 1993:

Besides, the more members, the merrier.  :)


#15 of 24 by nestene on Sun Feb 27 23:55:44 1994:

Are the instructions in this item on how to join still accurate?


#16 of 24 by kaplan on Mon Feb 28 04:56:19 1994:

Yes, still accurate.  The best way to get the membershp details is
to type at the next promtp, 
  
  !support


#17 of 24 by devxart on Fri Oct 3 06:23:40 2003:

How to getting member account from non-American country? I'm from Russia, and
have a trouble than send pay check. Thanx for any constructive response,
DevXarT.


#18 of 24 by mdw on Fri Oct 3 08:29:26 2003:

Well, there's 4 problems:
        how do you convert your money into something you can export
        how do you convey the exportable to ann arbor, michigan
        how does grex convert the exportable into $ in a bank account
        sometimes the exchange rate really sucks
Ann Arbor, Michigan is not an international banking center; about the
only option is US $, because that's all the bank will accept.  The two
main ways I can think of to make "exportable" currency grex can accept
are (1) a check drawn upon a US bank in US $.  There's probably some way
to do this internationally; presumably it involves a US bank that does
international business.  (2) paypal.  They take credit cards.  Grex can
accept paypal.  Credit cards are everywhere, even in Russia.  Credit
cards do currency conversion, somewhere, tho the rate may be hard to
predict.  I don't know anything useful about how you would go about
turning rubles into $.  Probably the best place to start would be your
local bank; they may have somebody that knows, especially if you get
international travellers.  If that fails, look for a place that does
lots of international business and visit there.  At a shear guess I
would think Moscow or St. Petersburg would work.  Perhaps you can call
or write.  Instead of going directly from rubles to dollars, you might
find it easier to go rubles to euros to dollars -- can you get a credit
card from a bank in amsterdam?

Often, the real kicker in all of this is the currency exchange rate.
You may be making a very decent living in Russia using rubles that would
barely earn you a spot on the street as a homeless person in america.

If I understand
        http://www.eximb.com/en/rate/keep.html
right, about 30-35 russian rubles should buy 1 US $.  Judging by
        http://www.yoshkar-ola.org/id106_m.htm
a grex membership for a year ($60) would be about 2000 rubles, which I
gather might buy 75 kg of meat, between 1 and 40 months of rent, 80 taxi
rides, or 1.5 gold wedding bands.  I may be way off on all these
figures, and I think the rent must depend greatly on just where one is
living.

For comparision: a package of cigarettes in Russia apparently costs
8 to 37 rubles a pack; here in the US I think they run $2.50+? (not
sure, I don't smoke).  According to
        http://www.dynamictruth.com/cigarette/sale.html
it looks like a carton of 10 packs of 20 cigarettes is $18.95,
so that would be $1.9/pack, or 66 rubles.  Or, here are some
food costs:
        http://www.mstores.umich.edu/catalog/food/
50 lb flour $10.53 beef chuck roll $1.84 beef tenderloin $15.70 beef
ground $1.39 180 fresh eggs $12.81 36 lbs butter $57.21


#19 of 24 by wlevak on Mon Nov 17 00:31:46 2003:

Foreign checks for small amounts often cost more to cash then they are worth.
The best way to send small amounts is by international postal money order.
These can be obtained at almost any local post office anywhere in the world.


#20 of 24 by twenex on Mon Nov 17 15:49:22 2003:

Define "small amounts" (in USD).


#21 of 24 by wlevak on Tue Nov 18 04:06:54 2003:

That depends on the cost at your location.  It usually costs $20-25 USD to
cash a foreign check.  A foreign chack for $20 would actually be worthless.
A check for $60 US (GREX membership for one year) would lose 1/3 it's value.
An international money order would cost $2-5 US, but rates vary.  Check with
your local post office to see which is more reasonable for you.


#22 of 24 by rcurl on Tue Nov 18 07:22:59 2003:

Pay by credit card - you often get the bank exchange rate without any
extra charges (but check on that for specific transactions).


#23 of 24 by lar on Sat Jul 3 22:45:30 2010:

HAHA...disengage yourself from this dead albatros

GREX IS DEAD..LONG LIVE M-NET!


#24 of 24 by progenote on Wed Mar 23 23:39:09 2016:

Hi, I sent my donation via Paypal.

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