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Grex Writing Item 5: Haiku [linked]
Entered by jdg on Sun Sep 8 13:23:42 UTC 1991:

Many of us are familiar with Haiku, the Japanese poetry that has a set style
of 3 lines, usually (though not always) 5 sylables, 7 sylables, 5 sylables.
One of the most famous Haiku poems is by Basho, and goes as follows:
 
       furu-ike ya
       kawazu tobi-komu
       mizu no oto
 
If you believe some translators, this haiku reads:
 
       Breaking the silence
       Of an ancient pond
       A frog jumped into water -
       A deep resonance.
 
             (Penguin edition of Basho)
 
But I prefer the direct translation:
 
       Old pond
       Frog jumps in
       Sound of water.
 
             ("On the narrow road", Lesley Downer, Summit Books)
 
The best thing about Haiku, to me, is that anyone can use it to be a poet
and to share thoughts, images, sounds, feelings.  There is a social aspect
to Haiku, called "Linked Verse."  Typically, four friends would sit together,
perhaps while drinking, and compose a long poem, usually on a single subject.

The friends would each compose 9 Haiku, discussing them, correcting each other,
improving on the work, and link them together with 2 additional lines of
seven sylables each, between the individual Haiku.  So, a linked verse
is, most often, 36 Haiku linked together.
 
We aren't four people, but we are together.  And, while we have many diverse
interests, Grex brings us together.  We can easily write Haiku together,
and create a linked verse about Grex.  It can be a nice way to share 
thoughts about logging on here.
 
I'll start with one or two Haiku:
 
     Creativity -
     Do your ascii smiles and smirks
     hide your violence?


     Always, busy lines.
     I enjoy logging on here
     If I can get through.
 
See, their pretty easy to make.  You try one.  Go ahead.

65 responses total.



#1 of 65 by sno on Sun Sep 8 16:18:28 1991:

Lazy summer days
Remembering the coolness of spring
Autumn closing in.



#2 of 65 by remmers on Sun Sep 8 22:57:13 1991:

Glowing amber screen
Like warm fires of years gone by
Fights deepening cold.


#3 of 65 by jdg on Sun Sep 8 23:21:24 1991:

re 1,2: Beautiful!  
 
re 0:  If I were to work to improve my first Haiku, I would change the
last line to read, "hide a violence."  That would make it less antagonistic.


#4 of 65 by ecl on Sat Sep 14 06:34:51 1991:

This is now Item 5 in writing and Item 15 in arts.



#5 of 65 by reach on Tue Oct 8 01:13:36 1991:

New to conference
I try to make a poem
Alas, a failure


#6 of 65 by krug on Fri Oct 11 12:24:05 1991:

Freedom's hot voice here
Torch consuming oppression
I bask in its light.


#7 of 65 by reach on Fri Oct 11 19:41:13 1991:

I often wonder
is it hard, this poetry?
or am I just soft?


#8 of 65 by thumb on Sat Apr 18 22:41:12 1992:

The day is young,
Soft light on still waters
Touches my heart.


#9 of 65 by rcurl on Sun Dec 13 00:07:09 1992:

Late at night I write
Whence comes the inspiration?
Heavy, tired eyes and mind.


#10 of 65 by robh on Sun Dec 13 02:48:32 1992:

 Watching _Gamera_,
 A really awful movie.
 Why do I do this?


#11 of 65 by matthew on Sun Dec 13 08:07:49 1992:

morning comes, still dark
hands move slow across the keys
eyes crying for sleep


#12 of 65 by matthew on Sun Dec 13 08:13:09 1992:

early morn alone.
is there anyone out there ?
no response. good night.


#13 of 65 by robh on Mon Dec 14 00:17:07 1992:

 Clowns raining down.
 Beware the smell of greasepaint.
 Danger, clown puddles!


#14 of 65 by gerund on Tue Feb 2 16:34:11 1993:

Sunlight on the floor
The house is strangely silent
Secrets in the walls


#15 of 65 by flak on Fri Apr 2 21:51:25 1993:

 pain in my neck 
 how nice to see you again
 tickling my temples
 rousing my stomach for war


#16 of 65 by md on Mon Oct 11 14:42:09 1993:

Oh shit!  I've barely
Started and already I'm
Flat out of sylla

[Or something like that.  Forgot where I read this, but it
gave me a giggle.]


#17 of 65 by ryan1 on Sat Aug 20 15:49:47 1994:

Hey md, lets try to have at least one conference with out all of
this swearing.  


#18 of 65 by window on Sat Aug 20 17:31:10 1994:

And so I write, I
Look for truth; finding none, I
Write another line.

No reality
There either, And so I sit
And think about my words.

Still no truth, no great
Revelations; Empty mind,
Empty thoughts, full soul.


#19 of 65 by orinoco on Sat Aug 20 20:51:16 1994:

Why is it that when
you read many haikus, they
start to sound the same?


#20 of 65 by other on Sun Aug 21 16:31:22 1994:

Haiku is pattern
Words, pattern create context
Pattern same, text not.


#21 of 65 by brighn on Sun Aug 21 17:51:27 1994:

It is like the sea
Which shimmers perpetually
But always changes
(I pronounce perpetually w/four syllables.  Make it perpetual if you like).


#22 of 65 by vegas on Sun Aug 21 20:09:57 1994:

Quitting Smoking Now
Greatly Reduces Seri
ous Risks to Your Health

In the beginning
God created the Heavens
and the earth...so there.

The earth was without
form; a void...and darkness moved
upon the deep's face.

And the spirit of
God was moving over the
face of the waters.

And God said "Let there
be light" and there was light and
God saw it was good.

Haiku lurks inside
the least haiku-like places
Waiting for release.



#23 of 65 by orinoco on Tue Aug 23 17:48:13 1994:

Respond or pass? En-
ter your response: Type "." to
exit or ":help"

(this counts "." and the : in :help as 1 syllable ea.)



#24 of 65 by vegas on Wed Aug 24 07:51:16 1994:

How do you say ":"? I would say "colon", which makes six syllables...


#25 of 65 by brighn on Thu Aug 25 00:16:08 1994:

If you say ":"
Six syllables are made but
":" makes it just five.
(colon/dots)


#26 of 65 by orinoco on Fri Aug 26 18:08:06 1994:

fine, call it dot and,
colon if you so desire.
I don't give a damn.


#27 of 65 by brighn on Fri Aug 26 23:14:05 1994:

The last response and I'm
Rolling on the floor laughing
That was a good one


#28 of 65 by brighn on Fri Aug 26 23:16:16 1994:

Oops, six syllables
were in the first line above
And now I'm ashamed


#29 of 65 by orinoco on Tue Sep 6 21:56:29 1994:

Don't be upset.
Four syllables in my first line.
sorry
Why should i worry?


#30 of 65 by brighn on Tue Sep 6 22:52:55 1994:

I think this format
Is frustratingly strict and
Arbitrary too.


#31 of 65 by facelift on Sun Sep 25 06:36:41 1994:

My butt itches bad
I tried putting rash cream on
With no good results.


#32 of 65 by johnny on Tue Oct 4 15:11:35 1994:

        Look, Children,
          hail-stones!
            Let's rush out!
-Basho


#33 of 65 by mtm on Sun Oct 9 03:36:55 1994:

From _Japanese Death Poems: Written by Zen Monks and Haiku Poets
      on the Verge of Death_

Now it reveals its hidden side
and now the other-thus it falls
an autumn leaf
   - Ryokan. Died 1831 at the age of 74

A parting gift to my body:
just when it wishes,
I'll breath my last
   - Ensei. Died 1725 at the age of 69

Empty-handed I entered the world
Barefoot I leave it.
My coming, my going-
Two simple happenings
That got entangled.
   - Kozan Ichikyo. Died 1360 at the age of 77

I raise the mirror of my life
Up to my face: sixty years.
With a swing I smash the reflection-
The world as usual
All in its place.
   - Taigen Sofu. Died 1555 at the age of 60

My favorite:

My whole life long I've sharpened 
  my sword
And now, face to face with death
I unsheath it, and lo-
The blade is broken-
Alas!
   - Diarin Soto. Died 1568 at the age of 89



#34 of 65 by thesexy1 on Fri Jan 20 22:47:32 1995:

i always thought it was 5 syllables, 3 syllables, 5 syllables ... that is the
way i found it in an encyclopedia... so here is mine: THE FLOWER The flower
starts to bloom In the spring To show God's great work.

(in the first line, "flower" is pronounced as one syllable)
<comments welcome>


#35 of 65 by other on Tue Jan 24 07:00:14 1995:

Generally, a total of seventeen syllables is used, usually in three lines.
Standard is 5 - 7 - 5, but standard is also in an eastern language with
pictograms which do not translate directly into English, so there is a fair
amount of flexibility in the structure.


#36 of 65 by brighn on Tue Jan 24 22:05:41 1995:

Why do people keep making a big deal about writing system when the
spoken system is what's relevant?

Chinese does not have a different structure from English because of its
writing system.  It has a different writing system because it has a
different structure (at least, primarily).  That's an oversimplification
of things, but there it is anyway.



#37 of 65 by other on Wed Jan 25 04:06:27 1995:

I wasn't giving credit for the differences to the writing system.  I was merely
basing my point on the fact that the sharing of poetry in our culture is based
more on the written form than the spoken, regardless of the fact that it's the
other way around in the history of Ha
iku


#38 of 65 by brighn on Wed Jan 25 04:46:47 1995:

Sorry.  gut reaction point.  :)  Ignore 36.



#39 of 65 by orinoco on Sun Jan 29 18:41:15 1995:

how d'ya get flower into 1 syllable?
flowr, I guess, but that's kinda hard to say...


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