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Grex Writing Item 131: Peopm #1 written 4-6-95 by Morgayn
Entered by morgayn on Mon Apr 10 16:26:30 UTC 1995:

Amongst the trees and earth you sat.
Balance.
The sky above you,
The earth below,
The water which flowed in you
The flames that burn...

Eyes of the clearest blue
Remind me of the ocean.
Calm and serene,
Stomrny and choppy,
The waves your eyes create
Lull me.
I am safe within them.

Hair of fire,
Your temples burn.
Flames of passion
Flourish within you.
Eternally,
You burn...
Life, Love and Hope.
Morgayn  April 6, 1995

   Written for yet another who is important to me..."Don't go there, I want to
press the button, AGAIN!"

May the Goddess Bless and keep you, luv.

19 responses total.



#1 of 19 by fraizer on Wed Apr 12 18:27:34 1995:

<you hear a muffled "thud" as fraizer's jaw hits the floor>
You write with more passion, more burning passion, than I have seen in
many, many a year.


#2 of 19 by morgayn on Wed Apr 12 19:19:06 1995:

Once again, this poem is not written for someone I wish to 'bed', but someone
who has always been there for me when I have needed them the most. This person
is fire and water, their essence burning in them, at times consuming them...
It is not truly my passion I am trying to convey with this piece, but the
passion this person wreaks of and who, at times, tries to cover it up and 
deny it....Never deny passion....
Once again, thank you, Fraizer...Your compliments cause my cheeks to turn a
permanent shade of rose....*wink*
Now, let's see some of YOUR work and get you into the rose-seat... *I don't
think of it as a 'hot' seat, per se (there's that word...)*


#3 of 19 by fraizer on Wed Apr 12 21:08:15 1995:

Passion doesn't neccessarily have to mean sex.
It most often does, I agree.
But I think it can mean just extra love, extra want, extra fire
For whatever it is you are doing at the time.
Granted it could be sex.


#4 of 19 by morgayn on Thu Apr 13 14:43:19 1995:

*Laugh*
Yes, you are right, most often we associate the word 'passion' with sex. 
However, I prefer to use the word to mean an exorbitent amount of emotion, 
whether this is good or bad is purely up to the person who is administering
the 'passion'. I am passionate about my music, but that doesn't mean I am a 
sicko and I want to 'bed' my instruments. Each of these poems that I have
written, in my opinion, were written with passion, but that doesn't mean I
want to 'bed' all of the subjects. On the contrary, I want to 'bed' only ONE
of the subjects, out of four...*Morgayn blushes*
   Passion is a wonderful thing...This particular person exudes it. Passion is
something which we all should exude. We can learn something from this person...


#5 of 19 by fraizer on Thu Apr 13 18:31:08 1995:

Hmmm... what?


#6 of 19 by morgayn on Fri Apr 14 13:21:28 1995:

*Morgayn is a bit confused*
What is your 'what' referring to, Fraizer?
   If it is referring to 'what' can we learn from this person? Well, I think 
that honesty and being true to one-self can be learned from this person. Perhap
they don't always LIKE what they see, but they most often choose to deal with 
it rather than try to cover it up... The passion this person exudes is s       
 we should all learn to accept in ourselves and let fly... Does that ansewr
your question, Fraizer? *Morgayn smiles*


#7 of 19 by odye on Fri Apr 14 13:52:33 1995:

Lettin passion just cut loose? Hmmmm, I don't know about that
one, sounds ideal, but has its downside, no?? : )


#8 of 19 by morgayn on Fri Apr 14 16:19:47 1995:

Well, the lesson we should be learning from this person is that they seem
to allow passion to flow, but they keep it in check...They have found that
fine line and succeed in NOT crossing it... 
"Wheel of Morality, turn turn turn....what is the lesson, we must learn?"
Ha heh.


#9 of 19 by val on Sun Apr 16 21:11:32 1995:

If you cant say something nice, go to the Ice Capades  ;)

Hey hon, loved the poem, but you knew that.  I'm trying to catch up on
all your work.

Interesting discussion  ;)



#10 of 19 by kami on Mon Apr 17 03:38:58 1995:

OK, not as amazing as the last couple, but feels good.  I wanted you to
work more with the image you created in the first stanza, to place the
subject more vividly in her environment.  The second stanza seems fine as
it is, but how do you tie "trees and earth" to being like/near the ocean?
Is there a conflict, a comparison, a completion?  The third stanza seems
also to want more- what passion?  what fire? how is it brought out or
caused or used?  How do the three facets fit together?  Each part is 
delightful, but they need a unifying thread or a greater explication of
the theme of one person's complexity.  Oh, and I think I know who the
previous two are for, but I'm not sure of this one.


#11 of 19 by morgayn on Thu Apr 20 00:16:22 1995:

This poem was mainly focusing on the person's shell, the MAIN part of what I
saw. I wasn't trying to delve into their soul like I was with the other two.
I was trying to capture the unique way this person seems to combine things
that don't seem compatible into a working persona.


#12 of 19 by kami on Thu Apr 20 17:59:28 1995:

So interpret- how do you think this person does manage to combine these
disperate aspects into one persona?  what connection do you sense?  how does
contact with a person who embodies such a paradox effect or influence you
as the watcher? does it change you or bring closer to gether your own
contradictions, or help you to understand the weirdness of the world? does
this person become a metaphore for other such juxtapositions in life? or is
that irrelevant?  sometimes a personal poem becomes universal, maybe even
by being MORE personal.


#13 of 19 by morgayn on Thu Apr 20 19:37:44 1995:

Yes, well, I can agree with that...But Kami dear, I can't dissect ALL of my 
poems and try to figure out and analyze them...They are an interpretation of
what I am feeling at that particular point in time. I can't change that, and I
refuse to. I prefer NOT to interpret WHY people are the way they are unless
there is some sort of situation I want to understand. I can't try to understand
how one manages to combine things...I CAN explain connections, but that wasn't
the point of the poem. I can write a separate poem to explain how this person
influences me, but not in this particular piece.
   I think you are trying to delve too deeply into things which are present
on the surface.


#14 of 19 by odye on Fri Apr 21 16:46:23 1995:

I was always at the opinion that there are 2 , sometimnes opposing,
issues when wriiting... There is the desire to hvae it be as it
is, whole and untouched. And then there is the very reallearning that
can happen from dissecting and analyzing you work, revising, recreating,
taking new directions.... Which to do, at what times, seems to
be an open question, and depends on your goals, I guess...

I'm sure many songwriters are relentless in their reviosn of their work,
just as sculptors, etc, no?? Hm.....


#15 of 19 by morgayn on Sat Apr 22 16:43:53 1995:

Honestly, Odye, I don't tend to revise my works...Like I said before, I don't
write to publish, I don't write generally *for* other people, per se. I write
to get my emotions out. I began writing poetry as a form of venting. I have a
terrible temper, and it seems that through writing, I have been able to control
my emotions because I put the strongest of them down on paper, and that leaves
the lingering emotions. It is my way of 'thinking' before acting. And venting
doesn't always have to be anger...I have vented happiness as well. Too much of
anything is certainly not a good thing.


#16 of 19 by kami on Mon Apr 24 04:59:23 1995:

Odye got my intention just right, in response #14.  It may not be necessary
for you to go and change a particular piece in order to learn how to do a
more effective job the next time.  Just looking at it and seeing alternatives
might be enough.  Your work is good, so it's hard for me not to want it to
be just that little bit better.  And once it has done its work of cleansing
and moderating your emotions, then perhaps a poem becomes fair game for
learning better technique.


#17 of 19 by morgayn on Tue Apr 25 04:08:28 1995:

Hmmm...I see your point, Kami. :)
Perhaps I will attempt a revision...


#18 of 19 by kami on Tue Apr 25 18:40:26 1995:

hope it isn't too painful an operation...<sardonic grin>


#19 of 19 by morgayn on Mon May 1 12:14:12 1995:

*Morgayn winks at Kami*
Painful? Pain? Naw....;)

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