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Grex Travel Item 5: Places you've lived.
Entered by denise on Thu Oct 31 11:03:28 UTC 1991:

Please tell us about the places you have lived throughout your life.  Have
you ever gone back to visit?  Are you happy with the place and lifestyle you
are currently living?  How does that compare with where you've lived in the
past?  Do you anticipate moving again in the near future?

53 responses total.



#1 of 53 by polygon on Thu Oct 31 21:48:11 1991:

Hmmm ... places I've lived ... it would be a lot easier to do it by "city":

    (1) Chicago, IL (1955-63)

    (2) East Lansing, MI (1963-79, 1982-88)

    (3) Detroit, MI (1979-82)

    (4) Ithaca, NY (1988-90)

    (5) Ann Arbor, MI [Pittsfield Township] (1990-present)

Of couse I've been to visit all these places since.  I am reasonably happy
with Ann Arbor, but not as much as I expected to be.  By many measures,
Ithaca was the best, but East Lansing is home to many friends and is the
place I'm most familiar with.  Ann Arbor is kind of a compromise between
East Coast sophistication and amenities on the one hand, and Midwestern
safety, cleanliness, friendliness, and honesty/openness on the other.

Actually, Ithaca is another such compromise, but Ithaca is too remote for
my wife's tastes.


#2 of 53 by danr on Fri Nov 1 00:28:33 1991:

I've lived in:
   Detroit,
   Warren (a Detroit suburb),
   Ferndale (another suburb),
   Sunnyvale, CA,
   San Diego, CA,
   Ann Arbor, MI
   Boston, MA, and 
   Ann Arbor again.
I've been back to all of them.

I truly like Ann Arbor the best, although San Diego was pretty nice.
The only problem with San Diego is that it is getting very crowded.
It's not quite as bad as LA, but it is getting there.

I imagine that I will move again, although I have no firm plans right
now.


#3 of 53 by sno on Fri Nov 1 03:05:33 1991:

Chelsea until I was 5.  Ann Arbor the rest of the time.

I'm a homey.



#4 of 53 by denise on Sun Nov 3 14:41:45 1991:

I grew up in Dearborn Hts., MI; moved to Ann Arbor when I was 14.  During
the years I was married, I lived in a couple places NE of Dixboro [out in
the country NE of AA].  After we split, I lived in Ypsi and then back to
AA.  This past June, I moved to Durham, NC.

I've been back to Dbn Hts many times to visit friends but wouldn't move
back [at least to that particular area because it's one of those places
where everything/everyone is the same...].  Though I have been by all the
places I've lived in the AA/Ypsi area and would consider moving back.

Currently, as I said, I'm in Durham, NC.  The climate's warmer [geez, it was
in the low 80s yesterday; doesn't feel like fall!], and it's a pretty area.
The people are friendly enough but while they love to chhit-chat, it's
hard to get to know people.  This is definitely a college town with several
universities in the area, which I like, but things seem spread out so much
more.  I dunno, perhaps it's because I've only been here a few months [it
seems like a lot longer], I feel like an outsider.  I do miss AA much more
than I expected.  At this point in time, I'm planning on moving back after
my internship is completed.


#5 of 53 by mythago on Sun Nov 3 21:55:04 1991:

Windsor is very nice if you like a slow pace of life and not too much
change.


#6 of 53 by shl on Mon Jan 20 03:56:03 1992:

Well, I've lived in Cincinnati, Fort Wayne, Eugene Oregon, and Ann
Arbor.  Oregon is fantastic, and Eugene is a great funky town. 
Ann Arbor is great; probably one of the best places in the midwest.
Eugene is one hour from the ocean and one hour from the peaks of
the Cascades, incredible beauty all around.  Ann Arbor has the
cultural advantages of a big city, without the hassles of a big city;
too bad there's not much funkiness left, though.


#7 of 53 by craig on Mon Jan 20 04:03:15 1992:

South Bend, East Detroit, Roseville, Torrance, NYC, London, Berlin,
Norfolk, Jacksonville.................


#8 of 53 by denise on Fri Feb 7 22:48:35 1992:

An thoughts on moving around so much, Craig?  How do the various places
compare?


#9 of 53 by craig on Sat Feb 8 20:55:05 1992:

Once you get right down to it, every place is the same.


#10 of 53 by danr on Sun Feb 9 15:00:55 1992:

Either you're crazy, craig, or you haven't actually *lived* in those
places.


#11 of 53 by remmers on Sun Feb 9 15:50:38 1992:

Re #6:  "too bad there's not much funkiness [in Ann Arbor] left, though."
I'm curious what sorts of things you're referring to, Stephen.

Places I've lived, besides Ann Arbor:

  (1) West Lafayette, Indiana.  My home town; I was born and raised there.
      Hence a lot of sentimental attachment.

  (2) Cambridge, Massachusetts.  College years.  Opened my eyes to the
      world.  For culture, Cambridge/Boston are hard to beat.

  (3) Vero Beach, Florida.  Nice beaches, little else.

  (4) Ypsilanti, Michigan.  Close to work, some okay neighborhoods.  Great
      historic district -- if you're into historic restoration and
      preservation.  But it's been hit bad by urban blight.  Lack of
      tax base is one of the reasons.


#12 of 53 by jdg on Sun Feb 9 19:38:41 1992:

Places I've lived:
 
   Pacific Palisades, CA
   Washington, DC
   Bethesda, MD
   Ann Arbor, MI
   Boston, MA
   Plymouth, MI
   Ann Arbor, MI (again)

And have lived for short periods (one month each) in:

   Amsterdam, Netherlands
   Santa Clara, CA

I currently reside here in A-Squared.

Places I've visited that I've enjoyed enough to consider living there:

   Seattle, WA
   San Fransisco, CA
   Munich, Germany
   St. Tropez, France
   Kauai, HI
   Cartegena, Columbia
   Anywhere in the Carribbean


#13 of 53 by mta on Sun Feb 9 23:01:26 1992:

I've lived in:  Malone/Bangor New York
                Cadyville New York
                Buffalo/ Niagara Falls New York
                Killeen Texas
                Redford New York
                Myrtle Beach SC
                La Chorrerra, Republic of Panama
                Fort Clayton, Panama Canal Zone
                Cadyville again
                Greenvale, Long Island, New York
                Tampa Florida
                Panama City, Republic of Panama
                Charleston SC
                Ann Arbor
                Lansing/East Lansing
                Ann Arbor again

in addition, I've spent enough summers at my ex-husband's family summer home
in Bastad, Sweden to feel that I can claim to have lived there, though I 
always had a state-side address when I was there (4-5 month long summers for
five years.)



I chose Ann Arbor again and I think I could happlily live here the rest of
my life--just so I don't have to give up traveling completely.  (I may have
to reconsider, though, if i don't get work here soon.)


#14 of 53 by craig on Wed Feb 12 01:51:29 1992:

RE #10
 
I may be crazy, however, the point is that a location means nothing in
the grand scheme of things.  People still have their basic needs and wants
and strive to attain them in basically the same fashion.
 


#15 of 53 by danr on Wed Feb 12 12:27:35 1992:

Basic needs is not *living*.  I agree that suvival is pretty much
the same anywhere, but basic survival is not really living.  If you
don't take advantage of the unique qualities of a certain, you're
merely surviving.


#16 of 53 by craig on Wed Feb 12 22:30:10 1992:

You are right.


#17 of 53 by frf on Fri Feb 14 21:42:45 1992:

Hartland, Mi.
Lansing, Mi.
Denver, Co.
Boulder, Co.
Vancouver, BC.
Aspen, Co.
Pencil Bluff, Ark.
West Palm Beach, Fla.
Minn/St. Paul, Mn.
Sun City, Az.
Portland, Or.
Howell, Mi.
Ann Arbor, Mi.


#18 of 53 by n8lic on Thu Mar 19 23:41:02 1992:

     I have lived in Michigan all my life, but the best place is a toss up
between Ann Arbor and Port Huron. Having spent 3 years there, I got used to
walking down to Pine Grove Park and watching the freighters go by.
(I still miss that aspect). There was lots to do like seeing a 1.25 movie
at McMorran Arena, Walking over to Sarnia, Riding my bike all over the place,
(Port Huron is not hilly like Ann Arbor), and my favorite, the start of
the RACE!!!. 
    If I ever leave Ann Arbor, I will miss lots of things, Grex, The Arrow, 
M-net, the Michigan Theatre, The library (it beats Port Huron's), I miss
the minor league hockey and the petty rivalry between PH and Flint,(both
teams have folded). But most of all, I will miss my good friends here,
so I probably won't move from Ann Arbor.


#19 of 53 by mta on Sun Mar 22 01:44:14 1992:

I used to envy people who grew up in one place all their lives.

I've given up envy as a fruitless pursuit.


#20 of 53 by denise on Sun Jul 12 14:50:50 1992:

I can now add another destination for a place of residence.  i just moved
into a new apartment in the heart of Morrisville, NC.  It's a tiny little
town in between Raleigh, Durham, and Chapel Hill, just west of Research
Triangle Park.  Having just moved in yesterday afternoon, I don't know my
way around well yet--but it does have a nice, open/rural feel to it.  
If anyone is ever down this way, please stop by!


#21 of 53 by md on Mon Jul 13 21:02:09 1992:

Springfield, Massachusetts
  Washington Street

Hanover, New Hampshire
  301C Brown
  6 Woodward

Springfield, Massachusetts
  Maple Street
  Spring Street
  Mulberry Street

New York, New York
  East 76th Street
  East 46th Street

Birmingham, Michigan

West Bloomfield, Michigan


#22 of 53 by headdoc on Sat Jan 9 15:02:24 1993:

Istarted life in the Bronx, New York and through the years graduated to
Manhattan (the Main borough).  Then:

           Riverdale, New York
           Bergen County, New Jersey
           Morristown, New Jersey
           Ann Arbor

Ann Arbor is the only place I would consider living in the midwest because
of the combination of small town feeling (this, to a born and bred New Yorker)
and the people and things to do.   Eventually, I will move from here only
because of the weather.  As I grow older, the snow, ice and the cold become
a real problem, enough to motivate a move.  After travelling throughout
the states alot, the places I would consider retiring in are:

           Seattle (gray but little snow-same feeling as AA)
           Portland (ditto but also the ocean which I miss teribbly)
           Santa Rosa, Calif.(weather great-ocean nearby, college town and 
the nearness to SanFrancisco.)
           In fact - anywhere near San Francisco

Alot of people are retiring to North Carolina, Denise, but I hear the summers
are dreadful (hot and humid) and there is very little to do (culturally).
What do you think?


#23 of 53 by danr on Sat Jan 9 19:51:12 1993:

I have a friend who just retired to Asheville, NC.  He loves it!  In fact,
one of his problems is that there is too much to do.


#24 of 53 by denise on Mon Jan 25 02:25:46 1993:

Audrey, yes, the summer heat is terrible down here...  Whatever we do in
the summer time *has* to be airconditioned [I don't think they even think
about not installing ACs in buildings down here], or spend time out at the
ocean/lake/pool.  Its somewhat cooler in the mountains, though.  As for things
to do, I feel it takes more of an effort to find the things...  I don't
know, AA will always be home in my heart.
[Though Ihaven't found employment back in AA, sometimes I wonder what it'd
be like coming back after being gone for an extended time like I have been...]


#25 of 53 by danr on Mon Jan 25 12:49:46 1993:

It can be done.  I came back to Michigan after living in California
for ten years.


#26 of 53 by headdoc on Wed Jan 27 00:50:32 1993:

Dan, how can you stand the gray and the snow and ice after 10 years of sun
and surf?  


#27 of 53 by danr on Wed Jan 27 12:25:03 1993:

Man does not live by sun and surf alone.  

Besides, northern CA is definitely not all sun and surf. Even in the
summer, it can be quite cool along the coast.

LA is way too crowded and smoggy for me.  I hate even driving through
it.

San Diego, where I lived for seven years, was nice, but it's a
cultural wasteland.  It's changes a lot, too, since I lived there.
It's becoming more like LA all the time.  :(


#28 of 53 by denise on Sat Jan 30 02:25:28 1993:

It looks like I won't be back to live for awhile yet [other issues to deal
with] but I still may be back...  At least I do plan on visiting in the
warmer weather!


#29 of 53 by rcurl on Mon Aug 23 16:46:47 1993:

I have lived in (rented, or owned, a house or apartment - or my parents did):
New York NY
Cambridge MA
Watertown MA
Boston MA
Oakland CA
San Francisco CA
Charleston WV
Hampstead, England
Eindhoven, Netherlands
Ann Arbor, MI

I like Ann Arbor, though it does not offer all the amenities of the
megopolises like New York, Boston, San Francisco, London. In regard to
living in far away places - I found that the places differed, but *I
was the same*. That is, I discovered that I took me with me. I also
discovered that, after living in (say) Eindhoven for two years, that I
passed through the stages of being a tourist to being "just another
resident". The perspectives are considerably different. 


#30 of 53 by skeez on Mon Aug 23 18:35:14 1993:

Re:6 Not much funkiness left here? Are you sure you know what funkiness means,
 G?


#31 of 53 by denise on Mon Aug 30 16:31:38 1993:

I've learned the feeling of not being a tourist any more in a new place of
residence, as I am feeling more that way now in NC [and feel somewhat different
about MI, too...]


#32 of 53 by rcurl on Tue Aug 31 00:41:16 1993:

Have you lived in "NC" (New? or NOrth?) long enough to not feel a tourist?
It took me maybe a year, in the Netherlands, before I discovered that I
was a resident, not a tourist.


#33 of 53 by headdoc on Tue Aug 31 23:42:01 1993:

Took me two or three years to acclimate and feel like Ann Arbor was "home".
Next place I move, I hope I know it well before I get there.  The adjustment
period is draining.


#34 of 53 by denise on Wed Sep 1 12:39:59 1993:

Rane, NC is North Carolina.  I've been here for just over 2 years now.  I'm
definitely more used to the area now [except for this heat].  And though I
still go back to MI from time to time to visit family and friends, sometimes
I feel a bit left out of things since, after all, life there in MI, has gone
on without me.  


#35 of 53 by rcurl on Wed Sep 1 13:27:13 1993:

How do you sign onto grex? Are you paying long distance, or is there a
"free" route?


#36 of 53 by danr on Thu Sep 2 11:28:28 1993:

re #31,33: I acclimate very quickly to a new residence.  I'd say within
three or four months.  I may not know everything about a place, but
enough so it feels like home.  My wife, on the other hand, is much
different.  It takes her years.

As you can imagine, this leads to some incompatibility.  I'm ready to
move to a new place, while she's just getting settled.


#37 of 53 by denise on Mon Sep 6 22:51:07 1993:

Rane, I'm calling LD though one of these days, I'll get around to finding
an internet connection!


#38 of 53 by wh on Wed Oct 6 02:39:32 1993:

I grew up in Evansville, Indiana. It was a good place to grow up in.
Good schools (don't know about now). Great basketball. Eight 
high school teams in town (only a few in the immediate Arbor-Ypsi
area). It is on the Ohio River, which was fun.

Bloomington, Indiana is still one of my favorite places.  I took
one of my daughters there on the way to Evansville a few year ago.
Good campus. And Brown County Park is the next  county to the east--
very pretty.

Terre Haute, Indiana. I was only there because of school. I
would never go out of my way to visit it. One memory I have of it
was that when a byproduct of dry cleaners became too concentrated,
the city smelled like fish.

St. Louis. Lots to do. Good places to go both inside and just
out of the city. The zoo was free, which I will always be greatful
for with small children and little money at the time.

Anchorage. I was barely able to talk my wife (ex, now) into moving
there. Four years later she didn't really want to move back even
though her family lives in southern Indiana. I thoroughly enjoyed it.
I moved away for a promotion and to get back closer to my wife's
mother in case of health problems.

Ann Arbor. I like it here.


#39 of 53 by vidar on Fri Nov 26 16:24:47 1993:

1. Naw Haven, Connecticut.  Born there and lived there until I was two.
(Opps, New Haven)  I hate typos.

2. U-M housing, Ann Arbor, MI.  Lived here for a couple years, borring 
place then.

3. Ann Arbor, MI.  I've spent at least twelve years in this stinking
house, and am getting fed up with my parents.

4. My Subconcious.  I truly live out Viking dreams.  I go on the raid
and usually end up being slain somewhere in the middle.


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