Anyone out there in GREXLAND interested in channelling?  I've been doing
a bit of it, and would like to talk to others with similar interest.

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I would love to hear your views and experiences with chanelling. My 
limited experience has led me to believe that my mind doesn't do
it well, but I have friends and family that do. I have yet to meet 
someone that can channel, then go out for a night on the town, seems to
be rather draining.
-Phaedrus

I have heard the term, but am not clear what it means.  Exactly what is
"channeling"?  How do you "do" it.

I'll give this a shot--I'm sure several of you would be willing to shoot me 
d--uh, correct me if I'm wrong.  ;)

Channeling is the opening of oneself up to allow a disincarnate being
communicate using ones own voice or body.  (Written channelling is
generally referred to as "automatic writing")

One particularly famous example is the channeling of Seth through "Jane".
They are said to have written many books together.

There's really a whole lot more to it, though--since much of the communication
is said to be "wisdom provided to help humanity to grow and develop
spiritually"

Can anyone else give us a little closer up look?

As far as my experience goes, you summed it up accuaratly MT, though I think
more often than not the form of "communication" is empathetic, like 
for instance spontaneous knowledge appearing in your head. The people that
can acctually alow "physical manifestation" are amazing, though even
when it happens to people I trust it's hard to believe. Although I try
to accept things at face value, there are some things that seem 
too incredible!
I'd really like to hear some opinions about chanelling, the spirit world
is something that in my experience the Craft community doesn't talk 
about, this is of course not a accross the board statement!!
-Phaedrus

Well, I don't know how others "do" it, but I started this journey by
first doing some past life research.  The person I went to uses the
techniques started by Sanaya Roman and Duane Parker, channelers of
Orin and DaBen.  While in a bookstore, I saw this book called Opening
to Channel by the pair, and bought it.  I followed the instructions,
and met a "being of light," also known as a spirit guide.

My spirit guide's name is Marcius, and he used to live on Earth during
the ancient Greek times.  He's now a librarian in the library holding the
Akashic Records.

The idea basically is that we all have a higher self, sometimes called
a soul, that doesn't die like our physical bodies do.  This is what
stores the memories of our past lives, ect.  The higher self is on a
level where everything is energy.  This is also where your spirit
guides are, so you can talk to them and get info from them.  It's
like you're making a phone call, but instead of a phone, you're using
energy, imaging and your higher self.

The source of the information drawn whether from within or without is really of
little importance. What does matter is whether the information is really useful
to you. All the Cool soundings phrases and poetry is really only so much
garbage if the message is undicipherable or irrelevant to the individual
specifically. One thing though concerning channeling what appears to external
beings, be very careful. Until you are well aquainted with anyone be cautious
of their motives. Just because a being is pandimensional does not make it
divine or trustworthy. So find what you think is sufficient protection before
you embark on this dangerous journey.

I'm sure your advice is meant kindly, but there is no danger in channeling this
way.  I have yet to get any undecipherable or irrelevant information.
And, since there is no threat, there is no deed for the protection you
mentioned in your message.

I'd have to agree with Bryan, although you may be right Patricia, no one 
is probably in danger of having thier head explode, the most common form
of "danger" is leading a person into the world of illusion, as well as
delusion! Many a lad and lass has been convinced that they were omnipotent,
so maybe the "protection" would be a good earthy grounding. 
You may be blessed with the attraction of well-meaning entities, not all
of us have been so blessed! 
Interestingly enough, I DO believe that like attracts like, but every once in
a while I'll get a real "meanie" from over there, if I don't cast a proper 
circle, which I used to do, NOT ANY MORE!!!!!
What does everyone else do when you're channeling, globetrotting, etc...
??
-Phaedrus

Phaedrus,

I'm not trying to gate in a demon, I'm just channeling.  There's a big
difference.  Channeling just deals with your light body and talking 
to spirit guides. My particular person is a being of light, and poses
no threat.

Patricia,
my interpretation of channeling is communing with others, good or bad.
Even on the physical realm we talk to jerks once in a while, doesn't it
seem logical that some of these same jerks may exist in another form??
I understand that your guide means you no harm, and it seems that you have
a very protective guide too, which for you is GREAT, not everyone may
journey with such a guide. I think most people go through a time of 
solitare while journeying, or channeling...??!!
The point you're making is well taken, the dangers of magikal practices 
are blown way out of scale! I thibk the biggest danger is delussion!
Patricia, have you never had at least a troublsome "guide" or whatever 
you may call it, give you problems?? If you haven't once again count
yourself lucky, but realize that other people have these experiences and
take precautions to make sure it doesn't happen. One such precaution may
be having a protective guide around.
By the way, how DO you gate demons, I'm having a dinner party next week and...
I'm kidding, it's a joke!!!!!
-Phaedrus
"When you think you've made a good deal with a demon, first count your fingers,
then your toes, then your relatives!..."

Phaedrus,

It has been explained to me that there are no real evil spirits, just 
less evolved beings spiritually.  And, this particular way of channeling
shows you how to ask for only the highest spirit guide, and ask if the
being is from the light. If it's not, you tell it to leave. Very simple.

Now that I can "tune" into my spirit guide any time I wish, I'm not
groping around in the dark, as it were.  I have an express elevator to him. :)

I do hope to learn to see the dead people around us, tho. THat'd be neat.
Just like I hope to learn to talk to animals and to astral travel. These
sound really nifty to me.

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Chris,
Is this your opinion, or the final truth...??
-phaedrus

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Chris,

If you believe in the Universal Mind or the All that Is, you shouldn'
t have a problem dealing with channeling.  People can channel all sorts
of things, from spirit guides to people on other planets in the universe.
It's great fun!

Have fun. Bye

Isn't this supposed to be a place of discussion for people with like, an
different ideas??!! Just because I don't agree with you Chris, doesn't mean I'm
right and your wrong, we just have different opinions...
Thanks for the reality check Patricia!
-phaedrus

Phaedrus,

Some people are very closed to certain ideas.  :) I know my particular
one is organized religion. That's why I don't comment or participate in
the pagan stuff.  I've even left messages in the New Age area on CIS
because I thought the way people were talking about channeling Seth
(of the Jane Roberts books) they were starting to get fanatic about it.
Like they all wanted to channel this one entity to see what it had to
tell them, rather than going out on their own and finding their own
individual spirit guide.  I guess it's the sheep mentality I dislike
the most. :)

                        Pattie

BOB save us from sheep mentality! I think the only thing I'm intolerant
of is intolerance. But, I must admit I'm a very social person, and I
need to be among people to celebrate throughout the year. There are 
few things I value more. I have been lucky enough to find a wonderful
Coven that I can call family, for that I know I am blessed!
I didn't know what the seth thing was about, but I knew it seemed a 
little extreme.
This brings up an interesting point of difference among many Pagans,
solitaire or communal. Though I think many people, myself included 
do a little of both, extremes to either side seem unhealthy to me,
and I've done both.
-phaedrus

phaedrus, is BOB a real entity, or a joke?  i'm not trying to be
mean, i have hust heard several jokes involving BOB, and wondered.

I just thought it interested to notice that a lot of what people are talking
about is similar to the item I entered (Personal Experiences...can't remember
the number).

Dang,
To quote the Discordian Bible, "Is it a religion disguised as a joke, or
a joke disguised as a religion?"
Check out J.R. Bob Dobbs for yourself and come and tell me if he's real~!
I realize that Bob isn't of the Erisians but it *is* similar.

okay, i'll take you up on that.  where do i look?

You could try some of the Subgenius books, but realisticly
You have to go to a Church of the SubGenius Devival. A good
rant. That'll give you an idea of what Bob is all about.

"Because Bob is not the answer, but niether is anything else!"
Rev. Ivan Stang

And let us not forgot the power of Slack, for as ye slack off, so shall ye 
recieve Slack.
-me

Praise Bob...

and pass the  miracle whip?<g>

Don't shoot until you see the egg whites?

oh dear, are we back to cheeze whiz?  No, not that!

hooray! i just found this conference!

OK, my 2 cents worth about channeling:
i work with deities in a certain pantheon.<norse> occasionally
i'll have dealings with others.

as far as the 'others' go, i do not work with a spirit guide. i am
a healer, so i work with particular ghosts/spirits/elementals/etc
that come to me for help.
this is often done by allowing them to physically come into me and
communicating, or perhaps taking them to the edge to cross over
after they have been spiritually healed. so, i rarely work with the
same entities twice.

and i also work with animals a lot.

oh wow!  neat.  are you in Michigan?  there seem to be remarkable few healers 
around here, at least that I've met.  Interesting set of talents you discribe.
I'd like to talk more about that.  Doesn't seem that consistent with the Norse
way of working, but they may fill different needs or purposes.  Got to go now,
but more later, I hope. 

i *used* to live in michigan.. ann arbor.
but now i'm in southern indiana.
but, at the time i wasnt pagan/heathen..  some on here may still remember me.
i've changed a lot since then.
i'm also reiki, but not many people know what that is. <i didnt until i
became attuned>

eir is the norse goddess of healing, although she is somewhat obscure.

I hope you're in Bloomington.  It seems to be an isolated tolerant
spot in the rather conservative state of Indiana.

yup, i *do* liove in bloomington. it is mostly tolerant, although
a few aquaintances have had trouble.

there seem to be a couple of people on Uther's digest from Bloomington.  Do you
get it?
I know of Reiki, very little, and wouldn't mind learning more.  Seems pretty
straight forward, if blown a bit out of proportion.
You're right, Eir is a bit obscure.  Tell us a story? 
I'm interested in what you appeared to be saying about healing people without
bodies.  I'm pretty comfortable with them (those that I've met, anyway), but
I've never thought of offering them help or expecting to change them in any way
 (except place spirits, and I don't take that lightly).  How is it different
from working with humans or animals? 

no, i dont get uthers digest. i am on a couple of mailing lists,though.

there really isnt much to say about reiki, other than it channels
healing energy through the hands. sometimes symbols are drawn on the
area of the person being healed. reiki was a gift to me from my teacher/mentor.
frankly, if i had to go to some  seminar and pay big bucks for it, i
probably wouldnt be reiki. i know of 3 levels, there is
reiki one, the beginner. reiki 2, in the middle somewhere. <this is me>,
and reiki 3, often called the master. you can only be given reiki by a
master.

it is easier for me to work on ghosts/spirits/entities than it is 
for me to work on people in bodies. i'm not sure why, other than 
different healers <and people in ggeneral> have a knack or talent
for doing something. since working with dead or dying things is easy
for me, i tend to do it more often. or maybe i'm just lazy. ;-)

I'd love to watch you work sometime.  I think I could learn what you do fairly
easily, although that's hard to tell from here... Well, with the difference
that I'm more comfortable with people who either never had bodies or are quite 
used to being without them than with things that are dying or in great pain- my
shields just aren't that good.   It still sounds to me like reiki is a fancy
name for some fairly straight forward techniques, at least at the start. 
Again, I'd have to see it in practice for a time before I could make any firm
correlations.  Neat stuff. What mailing lists?  I thought about looking into
Arcana, but it seemed like a lot of filler for my mbox at a bad time, and most
of the topics were pretty far from what I'm mostly doing.  A friend of mine in
Portland is thinking of starting up a Celtic Magic/religion list.  Wish she
would.  Have a look at the digest, though- very nice feeling of community
without the pissiness and flame fests I've seen elsewhere.  Never gets too
advanced/esoteric, but some interesting questions and ideas get proposed. Some
people find it hard to do healing work where the subject is "helping" them,
because it runs "across the grain" to them or confuses them.  Perhaps that's
part of the difference for you?

Hmm' I thought there was an announcement for a Celtic magic/religion list
in the last Digest,  no?

that's the one.  Just got around to send the message to join as soon as I get
done here.

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