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Entered by ajohnson on Sun Jul 16 03:17:13 UTC 1995:

!pico
 Things are once again getting out of hand in Bosnia. I for one don't
 agree with all the criticism that the UN has received on this matter. The
 member nations themselves, especially the ones in the security council
 are chiefly to blame for inaction in the area. Once a UN resolution has
 passed, it is the duty of the member nations enforce it. There are many
 ways that this conflict could have been brought to a forced end by the UN.

 First, a REAL weapons embargo! These forces have been supplied with
 logistical support for entirely too long. If there wasn't so much money
 to be made in the trade of American (and Soviet) made weapons (many
 leftover from the cold war) in that area, niether side could support such
 an operation for so long.

 Second, A SAFE area, should be a SAFE AREA! Air Strikes on supply lines
 and ammunition dumps are good way to bring the combatants to the
 negotiating table, and should be enforced on both sides in the conflict.
 That's right, the UN shouldn't take sides in the conflict, because
takinga side means that a moral judgement has been made and it is
impossible to
 make a moral judement based on "facts" heard in the rethoric from boths
 sides in the conflict, and thus shouldn't be done. If the member nations
 of the UN agree on a resolution, they should be in a position to act upon
 it when necessary.

 Lets not pass resolutions and then blame the hierarchy of the body at
 work when those resolutions are violated, as seems to be the case in Bosnia.

9 responses total.

#1 of 9 by srw on Sun Jul 16 04:59:34 1995:

"Getting out of hand" is an understatement. The war is lost before it
ever graduated from being a peacekeeping venture. They never had a
chance to keep the peace. They were kidding themselves. I now expect the
Serbs to overrun each "safe-haven" in turn, raping women and killing civilians
indiscriminantly. They will force out all that are left. The Serbs are 
determined to remove the entire Muslim population. The refugee situation
should become quite tragic. Sarajevo will be the last one.

I really don't think the member nations have the determination to risk 
their own young men to prevent this horrible result. In order to do so
will require a full scale ground invasion by the UN, or Nato, or US.

It is now way too little too late to let the Bosnian forces have access 
to international arms trade.

#2 of 9 by omni on Sun Jul 16 19:10:08 1995:

 Fw-note:
  Since there are 2 items, and THIS item already has a response, I have killed
item 60, and let this one remain. 
which was the logical thing to do.

#3 of 9 by ajohnson on Tue Jul 18 00:32:32 1995:

Upholding the arms embargo is imperative, to stop the fighting, and now
the serbs will have to deal with thier war crimes when this is over, so of
course the will resort to desperate measures to keep the conflict going.
NATO, or French (they have an aircrat carrier in the region) airstrikes on
supplylines and munitions dumps will bring an end to the dwindlingly
supplied conflict. Violations of UN resolutions should be dealt with
swiftly, or other conflicts such as this will surface, and this cannot be
allowed to happen.

#4 of 9 by ajohnson on Tue Jul 18 00:36:46 1995:

RE:#2 Hey omni! sorry for the confusion on my part, but could you put the
header of this one to be "another `High Noon' in Bosnia" ? Please? Thanks.

#5 of 9 by omni on Tue Jul 18 17:46:57 1995:

 No can do. I cannot change the header of an item anymore than a leopard
can change it's spots. Sorry.

#6 of 9 by ajohnson on Wed Jul 19 03:41:20 1995:

Then why did you delete the one with the header?! <g> I know,the one
without the header is the one that got the responce, right? Oh, well.

#7 of 9 by marcvh on Sat Jul 29 16:49:13 1995:

Stopping the fighting is clearly not possible through the embargo.
These kind of events do, at least, remind me that despite some problems
the U.S. is still the most effective melting pot in the world.

#8 of 9 by ajohnson on Tue Aug 1 21:24:38 1995:

True, the US has been one of the most effective melting pots, however,
somehow we must take the initiative to help other areas of the world do
the same without making the same costly mistakes we've made in getting
this far. 

True, there are oceans inbetween us, however, mass communication (such as
here and the rest of the internet) has made our planet smaller and more
interconnected to the point where isolationist policies of the past are
actually harmful today, to us, and others. We have an obligation to teach
developing nations not to make the same mistakes we've made during our
industrialization, especially with respect to the enviroment, as well as
other points, while they try to realize the same "american Dream" of free
enterprise and such. Many don't feel obligated, and this is a little
self-absorbed in opinion and action, I feel. 

Whether we like it or not, we are setting examples for others every day of
our lives, so, why don't we try to set good ones and make things a little
easier for the next generation, instead of say, giving the next generation
three generations' worth of unsolved, and festering, problems.

#9 of 9 by ajohnson on Fri May 24 22:50:53 1996:

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