In the spirit of guessing items... when the United States invades Hatai,
try to guess:

- Number of U.S. (and any allies in the front lines) casualties
- Number of Hatian military casualties
- Number of Hatian civilian casualties

from the initial fighting.

16 responses total.

67, 563, 1697.  The U.S. will quickly sweep where it wants and encounter
little opposition from most places it goes, but confusion will result in
an inordinate number of civilian deaths, many of them by Hatai's army.

Define "casualties"...
   ...deaths?  deaths+injured?  deaths+injured+MIA?

ca.su.al.ty \'kazh-*l-te-, 'kazh-(*-)w*l-\ n 1: serious or fatal accident : 
   DISASTER 2a: a military person lost through death, wounds, injury, 
   sickness, internment, or capture or through being missing in action 2b: a 
   person or thing injured, lost, or destroyed

So, there could have been no deaths, but a lot of sick people...

Less than what Marc said on all counts, say, 20,200,200
I think the Haitian army will not fight for more than 10 minutes before
throwing their weapons down in the street and either hiding or blending
in with the civilian population.

I am not trying to make an arrogant statement about the US troops, but
rather predicting this based on my belief that they are not an army at
all, but rather state supported terrorists.

As an army they have no training at all.  Their leaders believe that they 
will be protected from an invasion by voodoo spirits. They believe the plane 
that flew into the White House is a sign of this.

(Steve, I've gotten lost among your "theys". Does "they" refer to
the Haitian Army each time you use it?)

Sorry, that's a writing booboo. I meant the leaders of the Army.
I read this in an interview with an ex-aide to an Army bigwig, as
printed in the newspaper. I can think of no reason to doubt the
source except that the concept is quite bizarre to us.

Steve, I'm still confused. When you say "the leaders of the Army", so
you mean the leaders of the _Haitian_ army or the _US_ army?

C'mon Carson, use your head now. I don't really think the US army's leaders
believe in voodoo.

The 24 hours is almost up. I wonder if Carter, Powell and Nunn talked
the Haitians into any compromises that will head off the invasion.
I'd be impressed if they did. I kind of expect the invasion to be tomorrow
night (Sunday or early Monday).

 Carter & posse should have promised Cedras that he could share a cell with
Heidi Fleiss (but in reality, throw him in with Dahmer).

re #9: I *was* using my head. That's why I was making sure...

The US has stated (or is that the Clinton adm.? or even the White House?) that
any captured members of the junta would be turned over to the new Haitian
gov't for their prosecution.

Well, things have taken a surprising turn, and I'm pleased to see this.
At the last minute (as the planes were flying from the US mainland to
the carriers), the Haitians blinked and the military Junta has agreed
to leave by Oct 15. President Carter has pulled off another peacekeeping
miracle. Other terms:
All military leaders to be granted amnesty by the Haitian Parliament.
The US will land tomorrow morning to guarantee that the agreement
will be honored.
The embargo will be lifted immediately.

It is still a dangerous undertaking for the troops, but much less so.
I guess the Haitian military leaders weren't willing to trust to voodoo
to protect theselves and their country.

voodoo isn't everything.

Why not let the Haitians have their voodoo... the republicans had theirs
in the '80s.

        Pattie

 "tee hee"

so it seems the Hatian leaders were protected by voodoo or at least that's the
best explanation for Jimmy Carter

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