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Grex Scruples Item 82: Butter side-up or Butter side-down????
Entered by canis on Thu Oct 13 04:14:46 UTC 1994:

Do you eat your bread butter side-up or do you eat your bread butter 
side-down? 

(hey I don't have to be serrious all the time do I??? |->)

24 responses total.



#1 of 24 by carson on Thu Oct 13 06:19:44 1994:

butter-side up.


#2 of 24 by popcorn on Thu Oct 13 13:36:39 1994:

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#3 of 24 by brighn on Thu Oct 13 16:54:55 1994:

Since bread always lands butter side down, and cats always land
on their feet, could we harness electricity by dropping a cat with 
bread strapped to its back while attached to a generator?
Inquiring minds (like me!) want to know.


#4 of 24 by omni on Thu Oct 13 17:33:28 1994:

 Up. It prevents the jelly and other good stuff from falling off. ;)


#5 of 24 by tom67 on Thu Oct 13 20:22:31 1994:

Hmmm... I like Valerie's answer.  But how about something like Promise Ultra
Fat-Free margarine?  This stuff doesn't even melt!  (well, OK *maybe* if
you nuke it long enough)  I also like apple butter (also fat free:) ) on
my (fat-free oat bran/wheat/*anything* but white) bread.  Maybe a little
honey....sound a little messy.  Anyway, I have a full beard, so I have to
say "up"  (I've tried it the other way--it wasn't pretty :( )
This whole thing is making me hungry!  I'm going for today :)


#6 of 24 by aruba on Fri Oct 14 02:38:17 1994:

I dip my bread in olive oil and garlic.


#7 of 24 by brighn on Fri Oct 14 20:55:54 1994:

I don't butter my bread, but I butter my toast and eat it butter up.


#8 of 24 by roz on Sat Oct 15 02:19:20 1994:

If I'm eating Great Harvest bread, it doesn't need butter.


#9 of 24 by gracel on Sat Oct 15 02:57:38 1994:

Bread doesn't *always* fall butter-side down.
When under control, mine is always butter-side up.  Not that it's
usually butter.  (Our four-year-old has been known to object that
I said I was "buttering" something when in fact I was putting
margarine on it -- I got away with it by telling him that "margarine" 
isn't a verb)


#10 of 24 by zook on Sat Oct 15 18:44:38 1994:

The probability that a piece of buttered bread will fall buttered
side down is directly proportional to the cost of the carpet. - Murphy.

I eat my bread plain, usually.


#11 of 24 by aruba on Sun Oct 16 14:44:33 1994:

(set math mode=on)

That saying in #10 has always bothered me.  Probabilities are bounded
(by 1), but costs are unbounded, and you can't have a bounded quantity
that is proportional to an unbounded one.  You could, however, have:

"The probability of a piece of bread falling butter-side *up* is
*inversely* proportional to the cost of the carpet."

(set math mode=off)


#12 of 24 by zook on Tue Oct 18 15:44:38 1994:

(math on)
That's not any better.  1/0 is not bounded, so free carpet could not
be evaluated (for those looking for the equation: Integral(P(x)dx) over
all x should=1.  Integral((1/x)dx)=ln(x), which is unbound over any
interval that includes 0.
(math off)

Murphy should bother people, eh?


#13 of 24 by popcorn on Tue Oct 18 21:49:13 1994:

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#14 of 24 by aruba on Wed Oct 19 03:06:24 1994:

(set math=on)

Well, I did assume that the cost of the carpet was bounded below, which I
think is more reasonable than assuming it's bounded above. But, if you
want a really good one, set

  P(butter-side down on a carpet that costs x) = 1/2 + arctan(x)/pi

(set math=off)
Sorry for taking the fun out of it, non-math folks.


#15 of 24 by carson on Wed Oct 19 04:52:05 1994:

oh, I can still be a scientific type and experiment for fun!


#16 of 24 by canis on Thu Oct 20 16:42:49 1994:

consider this for a sec what if the bread land first butter side down on your
free carpet, and then bounces (hard to imagine but it has happened to me) and
lands on the other side??? Figure that  one in HA! <G>


#17 of 24 by zook on Fri Oct 21 23:19:36 1994:

I would get a new kind of butter.


#18 of 24 by gracel on Mon Oct 24 02:16:11 1994:

For that matter, what if the bread lands on edge? It might even
stay that way, if it's close enough to a wall.  (I've cleaned
something like margarine off a radiator cover a few times)


#19 of 24 by tom67 on Mon Oct 24 05:23:42 1994:

How about if one were to make a sandwich out of the bread and butter
from two half-slices?  This way one half would be butter side up and the 
other half would be butter side down, yet unless the sandwich were to be 
dismantled in some way, no butter should land on the carpet!  Now, what
if the bread were formed into a Moebius Strip?  Do you think there is even
a market for Moebius Bread? (if this is making no sense to anyone, please
observe the time of day it was entered...)


#20 of 24 by aruba on Mon Oct 24 05:42:05 1994:

Sure, I'd buy Mobius bread.  Heck, we have toroidal bread (donuts), why
not Klein bottle bread while you're at it?  Of course, it couldn't exist
in 3-space...


#21 of 24 by brighn on Mon Oct 24 05:51:50 1994:

Klein bread could rotate while it's cooking through the appropriate
topolgies.


#22 of 24 by popcorn on Fri Oct 28 23:37:11 1994:

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#23 of 24 by tom67 on Mon Oct 31 18:18:24 1994:

...and they have less fat...


#24 of 24 by ewhisam on Thu Dec 28 03:14:03 1995:

I never noticed probably either

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