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Grex Scruples Item 116: The Reverie Dilemma
Entered by madpoet on Sun Jul 23 09:01:23 UTC 1995:

You're having a lucid dream and you are in CONTROL. I mean, you've
never manipulated Dreamtime this effectively before. You are approached
by Morpheus, or some old naked Indian or an Aborigine or whatever, and
this is NOT under your control; it's raw dreamtime...not an element of
your mind. Anyways, this dream character offers you permanent asylum
in Dreamtime with absolute lucidity...you may wake up immediately OR
you can spend the rest of your natural life in a coma yet with absolute
control...fully conscious - over your entire reality. You must choose
immediately and you will not be offered the opportunity again.

9 responses total.

#1 of 9 by birdlady on Tue Jul 25 16:54:11 1995:

I adhere to the old cliche of "too much of a good thing".  I wouldn't be happy
in life without some day-to-day challenges.  Life's what you make of it, and
I'm perfectly content in the "real world".  BTW -- I've had some great lucid
dreams that I was sad to leave, but since they usually help me in real life,
it's nice to have them occassionally instead of LIVING in them.  =)

#2 of 9 by marian on Fri Jul 28 16:00:41 1995:

there ws this episode of northern exposure that kind of dealt with this...
the whole dreaming experience was fun, but then cchris had to wake up and he
screwed up his outside life.  to me, fantasies are fun, but they are about
waht MAY  happen in real life, which is imminently more exciting.  because
you will know that you are in a mere dream, and will be consciously aware that 
winning the lottery out there is much better than winning the lottery in here.
 and haveing sex out there...well, you get hte idea.  and you would never
 really be able
to fall in love, because the second party is not involved.  Man, I could write
a whole paper about this! REAL LIFE RULES!!!

#3 of 9 by canis on Thu Aug 17 06:01:54 1995:

But when you get down to it, wouldn't you create a life just like this one?

#4 of 9 by jazz on Thu Aug 17 06:13:26 1995:

        
        That's easy.   I know (although I can't always put it into practice)
that the only thing I really enjoy out of "getting things" is the challenge
and effort it requires.   Anything one does one's self is worth more than
something bought, which is in turn worth more than something received as a
gift.

#5 of 9 by madpoet on Fri Aug 18 09:09:14 1995:

But why couldn't you just CREATE conflict and challenge if you so desire?
I agree, this alternate reality seems paralyzed by thermodynamics
i.e. no friction means no action, but with this much carte blanche, it
is possible to create such friction, which sort of leads to canis'
conclusion. (just playing Devil's advocate!)

#6 of 9 by christ on Fri Aug 18 10:02:50 1995:

No.  Hell is when everything you ever wanted is given to you  immediately.
 Take away the challenge of RL and mortals fall apart.  Speaking from
experiance, I can easily tell you I would have to wake up the second time
around.  It would be impossible to create challenge because once you do its
already overcome, anything you think of is already answered.  Excuse me while
I take my medication.

#7 of 9 by marian on Sat Aug 19 07:44:38 1995:

why would anyone want to create friction in their fantasy life, if it can be
creted for them in their real life, lee?

#8 of 9 by neighbor on Sat Aug 19 15:09:20 1995:

Everything I want is in RL.  I would have that dream over and over again. 
With a few drugs, you can have any dream you want.  Soo I would have to say
No, I'd rather have the real you as a neighbor.

#9 of 9 by ewhisam on Thu Dec 28 04:14:58 1995:

wake up immediately

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