The New Star Trek Movie...what to call it?

This is related to a discussion ongoing in one of the star trek usenet 
groups.   The next Star Trek movie is due out at Thanksgiving, and is 
currently in production.   It was to be called Star Trek: Resurrections, 
and directed by Jonathan Frakes.  But the name was appropriated by 
Paramount to use as the title for the forthcoming Alien sequel.  Now they 
are looking for a new name (the studio that is) and are soliciting 
on-line suggestions.  The current working title is Star Trek: Generations 
II, but that is likely to change with Star Trek: Destinies the most 
talked about possibility:

Rumored storyline:

Peace in the galaxy is shattered when through the wormhole at deep space 
nine comes the mother ship of the Borg race, carrying the all-powerful 
queen borg.  Leaving death and destruction in their midst, the Borg are 
heading straight for Earth, with one goal in mind.  Re-assimilate Locutus 
of Borg (Jean-Luc Picard, ties in with an ST:TNG episode)

So the Federation goes to all out war with the Borg, assembling the 
strongest fleet of starships, led by the new Enterprise (ncc1701-e).  
to protect the earth. Further complicating matters is that the 
Federation is now also at war with the Klingons.

It becomes apparent that the Borg, once they find and re-assimilate 
Picard, intend to wipe out the earth and all life in the galaxy.  In 
order to prevent this, Riker is named captain of the new Enterprise to 
lead the fight against the Borg, and Picard time travels to the past in 
an effort to avoid assimilation and find the secret of the Borg.  The 
Borg will not destroy the galaxy until they have re-assimilated Picard.  



Anyway...thats the essentials...sounds like a good story, all thats 
needed is a name.  Star Trek:Assimilation?  Star Trek: Re-Generations?  
Star Trek: The Wrath of the Borg?   What suggestions do you have?

51 responses total.

Er, are we on odd or even?  'Cause all the odd episodes sucked.  ;)

Well it's the second Next Generation movie, but the ninth Star Trek movie.

No, it's the 8th Star Trek movie.  Generations was #7.

Sorry - I hate the overuse of time travel as a plot device...

It is overused. But with unrestricted FTL, what does one expect?

I'm wondering if this is a hoax script. Since the advent of the internet,
the studios have been "leaking" fake scripts to obsfucate what the real
story is. The problems I have with the above are:
1.) Picard goes back in time *again*? They used that as the device for
    the 2-parter at the end of the series and in the first Gnerations
    movie. Not to mention the other movie with the whales. It's a
    really overdone idea, and I'd think Bernman and Pillar would know that.
2.) The "queen" borg? Oh, come on! The borg have been portrayed as very
    much a mechanistic culture. Everyone is a cog in the machine. The
    idea of any kind of a hierarchal structure doesn't make any sense.
    They've done a good job designing this species so far, I'd hate to
    think they'd blow it with such a dumb mistake.

So how about:  _Star Trek: Deceptions_
    Tag line:  "Plot is irrelevant, common sense is futile, your cash
                will be assimilated."

        The script I was referring to is available for reading 
in its entirety:  www.primenet.com/~robhood/nextrek.html   Generally you
can tell from the writing whether a script was professionally done.  The 
script for the "Generations" movie leaked on the 'net months in advance 
and everyone said it was a hoax, but it was the real deal.


There have been conflicting reports about the time travel.  The latest 
faq about the movie on usenet suggests that it is the Borg who travel 
back in time to the time of the founding of the Federation, to assimilate 
Zephraim Cochrane (the inventer of the warp drive), so as to prevent him 
from making space travel possible.  The other story is that it is Picard 
who seeks out Cochrane to find answers on how to defeat the Borg.

Supposedly, the main villians will be played by Christopher Walken and 
Yaphet Kotto, with Emma Thompson as Picard's love interest that he 
encounters in the past, and Joan Collins as the Queen Borg (who was in 
"City on the Edge of Forever" (SOS), the best time travel episode in my 
opinion in any of the series)

Rumors are also flying that a major character dies at the end of the film 
(specifically the rumor is that Picard will die, since Patrick Stewart 
may want out of Trek after this, in favor of more challenging film 
projects)  This may be why all the versions floating around have Riker 
being promoted to Captain of the new Enterprise and Picard promoted to 
Commodore and assigned command of Starfleet (ignoring Kirk's advice not 
to accept promotion)

We probably wont know if the script is real until the movie hits the theaters.

I guess I should clarify my feelings on time travel:  All told, I *still*
think it is overused as a plot device.  That said, however, I'm more tolerant
of it when it comes about due to some uncontrollable outside force/mechanism,
as opposed to something the ST'ers bring about themselves.  Thus, in the
TNG wrapup, it was Q that was doing the time shifting for Picard, and in
Generations 1 the movie it was Picard & Kirk being caught in the whatever-
it-was called (vortex?) that allowed them to exit to a particular point in
time.  Whereas in ST:TMP #4, it was the ST'ers themselves traveling in the
Klingon ship that put themselves back in time by flying at the sun etc.
I can accept the former cases a lot easier than the latter.  Just a
preference...

"nexus"

Joan Collins as the Queen Borg?  That might be interesting, or amusing, or
awful, or improbable....

Agreed. The list of actors makes this sound even *more* hokey.

  I was only quoting the faq from rec.arts.startrek.current...believe
what you will

(and I might add that one of the episodes that I use as reference as to how
back TNG got in the last couple seasons also has Borg with personalities. 
It sucked.)

Is that the one with Lore in it?  It was a horrible episode, but
no worse than the rest of the last few seasons.  >8(

No, that was the one that set up the Lore as Borg leader episode.  

Synopsis:  Scot says:  "The recent episodes have sucked.  If they only brought
back the Borg, that would be a cool episode".  The episode that brings back
the Borg:  "A wrecked Borg ship is found, with one survivor, a teenaged Borg.
He is befriended by the crew and eventually released, with the idea that his
newly learned individuality will change the Borg for the better"

It's the new Tim Burton movie, "Hugh Scissorhands"!

Watch Winona Ryder as Counselor Troi, empathizing with Hugh!

ROTFL !

Ummm.  They have a cure for the borg.  Remember?  They didn't give it to 
Hugh as they had planned.  Combat with the borg should be breif.  Also, since
all the Borg who attacked earth are dead, how does the queen borg find out 
about Picard, how do they know to combat the sleep command, The borg are
weak...

Will Hugh and his followers fight with the federation, what will the Klingons 
and Romulans, and Cardassians do?  DS9 must be assimilated, right.

Adn what about Voyager...?

Be better if they brought back the parasites.
Really.
They are an unknown.
They are capable and devious.
They are hard to detect.
They are a loose end int he series.

They would have a queen, who would be aware of Picard, and they want to
assimilate us.

It just ain't the Borg.

Do you mean the parasites from the second-to-last episode of the first
season?  I agree, I always thought they should bring them back.  They were
a good enemy.

From what I hear, the Borg that they encountered in the epsidoes of the
series are like offspring of the queen borg.  When hugh was converted
part of the Borg was lost so the Queen Borg comes looking for it, to
re-assimilate all the pieces, not just Hugh but Picard, since he was
assimilated into the Borg at one point.

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i think the New Movie should be an invasion of Earth by Tribbles...
Or maybe they could attack the Klingon Home World....
Cause ya know..Klingons hat Tribbles and Tribbles hate Klingons...

Cool idea!  Who plays the Queen Tribble?  ;)

Hey, I like it.  Maybe you could come up with an alternate script, bubu?

        Put tribbles on the Borg ship.

        I think the next movie should be called "Generations II".  Eventually
they'll get to "Generations X" and have to stop making the movies.

Ha!  I don't know if they'd stop, they might just alter things a bit.  Like
give Picard a goatee, or something.

Speaking of Patrick Stewart, while I was in London, I saw him on TV in an
"entertainment" program talking about the new movie he's in, where he plays
a gay man among some other gay men in I forget what situation.  It's some
kind of comedy thing.  He was discussing how this might affect the 
Jean-Luc Picard image; at one point he assured the viewers that JLP would
certainly have "gotten laid" in at least a couple of the TNG episodes.

That would be the movie "Jeffrey", I believe.  It's been through the U.S.
already.

        I think the person who suggested bringing back the Tribbles had the
        right idea. Why does everyone thing the Borg are cool?  Good greif
        people, the best character TNG produced was Q, who they brought in to
        try to make Voyager more
interesting.
        Anyway, I hope they don't use the Borg in the next movie.  I don't need
to see anymore of them.  The Enterpise crew has already destroyed their
societytice.  Let's not make it a third time.  Now, if they concentrated on
being at War with the Klingons, or the Dominion....

Destroyed the Borg's *society* twice?!  I don't think so:  A) They were able
to cause one cube ship to self-destruct when they caused it to go to sleep
"out of cycle."  B) They were able to cause another ship to run amok when
they returned Hugh and his self-awareness/motivation to it.    Neither one
of these events would have caused the entire Borg "society" to have been
destroyed.  One can certainly wonder why the Borg didn't send another ship
to assimilate earth after the first one failed.  But one cannot conclude
that the first ship constituted the entire Borg society, especially after
the Enterprise encountered more Borg (Hugh et al).

        The second ship, supposedly, were survivors of the first...  (Not sure
        how, though.)   I'm sick of the BorG! Bring back the tribbles, or the
        salt vampires,
or  even Harry Mudd's or Cyrano Jones's Grandchildren or space probes from the
twentieth century.  Anything but the borg again!

Hm... an updated salt vampire (what with its ability to assume other forms
or whatever the heck it did) could be a pretty cool villian.  Sort of like
ST II, bringing back an obscure plot (Khan) and making a dynamite movie.

We already have the Dominion if you want shapeshifting enemies.

(We killed off all the Salt vampires.  That was the point - it was the last of
its kind.)

I retract my #33.  If they're going to make a big $$$ movie, they *have* to
have a juicy villian role for somebody.  Salt Vampire might not make that.

(Hey, I didn't say I *agree* with the "need", but that's what I think will
happen)

        Bring Harry Mudd Back... he can come through a wormhole fromm the 23rd
        Cetnrury and try to sell the Enterprise to the Romulans.

Wow, Shawn, how did you get to the year 200 on us?  

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