What no B5 yet, you have got to be kiding me!!!!!

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Sure there's B5!  I saw a new episode just a few days ago!

Admittedly, we had to import it from Britain...

The new episodes will be shown here in October.

No, I don't like it either.

you know Tom Smith by any chance.

I do, but he wasn't there that night.

he showed them to me.

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Is that Tom Smith the filksinger? Or another Tom Smight?

ya Tom the filker.  Thats the cyrcle that I know him from.  

Kewl -- His stuff is great; would love to meet him some day.

You will be vastly disappointed.

What you got against tom smith?

Ancient history. I worked with him and he lived, for 4 months, in the same
house as me. This was back in 1985. I don't like him. Details are private.

The thought of you two living in the same house scares me,
for some reason...

I have heard dome negative things about hm personally (among them, that he used
to be a filkhog, although he got better), but he is a very good filksinger.  

Otoh, there ary many who do good work, and just aren't very nice people -- I'll
 reserve judgement.

I got the first new October B5 episode from a friend, showed it to robh,
and lent it to Tom Smith a couple days later.  I've lent the tape a couple
of times since then, but I'd be happy to lend it again after I get it 
back.  Let me know.  The episode in I'm talking about here is called, 
"Divided Loyalties" and I think it was really good.

It wasn't the huge WHAM! episode I'd expected it to be, but
it was decent.  I really enjoyed seeing Lyta Alexander again,
she was the only character from the pilot that I missed.
And the revelations of the episode are, shall we say, important
to the story arc.

I look forward to seeing these (the 4 unshown ones), and in fact had oprotunity
last weekend to see all four several times, but somehow couldn't justify taking
time off from the con to do so.

(Josh, who is very bushed, having spend the last weekend at Intersection in
Glasgow.

<sobs a little> I have to wait 'til the srping for my next B5 fix?!?!?
It's terrible. Ok C4 played Legacies which made up for the gap a little
but at this rate I'm going to have to go out and by the videos just to
keep me going til the UK decides to get Series 3 :(

What are all us 5ers going to do while we can't watch? Suggestions please?

Bug us in the states for NTSC copies?  While the last 4 episodes of 2nd season
have yet to air here (not that I haven't seen them, but PAL-NTSC conversions
look really bad), they should be airing starting the end of this month, with 
3rd season airing immediately after (starting end of October).  

Here in Sweden we have only seen about 10 episodes of season 2.. But that only
means that there is much happiness to come... :)

Well. Season 3 over. (In UK at least.) *Boo-Hoo.*
Looks like I just have to make do with watching everythgin over again from
the start huh?

Hey, you're four episodes ahead of me, and five ahead of most
Americans.

And if you dare say one word... (actually, I'm probably seeing them tonight
so I'll be in the spoiler refrainer rather than the spoiler killer section
soon).

And I've seen all five as of about 3:45 yesterday afternoon.
Anyone else?

(sigh !) No ! Somw of us have o wait for the shows to actually come on TV to
see them !!  (grump grump grump)

Well, unfortuantely, I was only able to see the first one -- the others will
ahve to wait for next wednesday.

Well I've seen "Walkabout".
Wow !
Now it's just a matter of waiting for the rest. (sigh)

        Got to see the Final 5:
        1) Wow, 2) okay, 3) Wow/huh, 4)WOW!!, 5) HOLY SH*T!!!

Get to see HOLY SH*T!!! tonight.
In about 25 minutes

And in about 168 hours, we get to see even more.  Stuff that even
I haven't seen yet.  >8)

        and I just started calling my van the whitestar.

A minor technical nit: If you have a space ship, with the amount of delta-V
that the _White Star_ must have, and especially if you decide that it's
expendable, you don't really need a thermonuclear bomb. The kinetic energy
of the ship alone will suffice.

Okay, speculation. What was Garabaldi told to do? Obvoisly Sheridan's
orders to him had something to do with the two missing H-bombs. But I'm
guessing that he went out and grappled onto one of the Shadow ships on his
own, and that Sheridan only asked for and got *one* of the H-bombs, while
the other is loaded onto Garabaldi's fighter.

Sheridan might have jumped into the pit to avoid the blast, but I don't see
how this would help him. I guess that depends on how deep the pit is, and
what's at the bottom. Two things will happen as Sheridan goes deeper:
Gravity will decrease (since less of the planet's mass will be under him),
and air density will increase. This may be enough to bring his terminal
speed low enough to survive hitting the bottom, if it's soft enough.
However, the blast wave travels at soundspeed, and is going to catch up
with him rather quickly.

(Re #29: Can your van create its own freeway entrance ramp? <snicker>)

I thought this was fairly obvious.  First, it's a "Perils of Pauline" ending,
which means the next episode is going to clear up Sheridan's death in a nice
quick deus ex machina.  Like you said, the White Star can create it's own exit
ramp.  It's going to do so.  Sheridan falls through the wormhole along with
the White Star.  Neither Sheridan nor the White Star are going to hit the
bottom of the pit.

Wanna bet $25 on the White Star, janc?  It's dead dead dead dead dead.

Re 30: The last episode showed both bombs on the White Star pretty clearly.
As I said, it's dead dead dead dead dead.

        Now, what would you rather have had:  The thirteen week wait for
the next episode after this episode (Za'ha'dum) or after the double
episode (War without End)??

        Okay, assuming you can hide 512 new whitestars from the 
Shadows, minions, spies and what not; why wouldn't at least eight
of the new productiion be pressed into service?  (And the Rock
Cried out) episoe two weeks ago.
        Do/did any of the new whitestars have the learned knowledge
of whitestar1?  The first did learn how is disipate the effect
of the Shadow attact.  Do the other whitestars have to learn on
their own or did this knowledge get 'passed along' into the new ones?

I would have thought a nice passing bomb run would have worked just as well.

By the time sheridan hits maximum velocity in his dive, the shock wave, or
rather, Mach wave will have turned him to mush.  Of course, I don't know the
firebal radius of a 500 megaton blast, nor the radiation range, nor teh
thermal range, nor teh blast range or any of the other things.

But I will bet it hurt!

I suppose there is some reason to believe the White Star is doomed.  It's
always best to kill a ship when there is nobody aboard (see the Star Trek
movies).  But I can't see any reason for Sheridan and the White Star to be
dropping simultaneously down the same hole except that the White Star is
Sheridan's way out.  And I will bet that Sheridan is not dead dead dead.
And if the White Star is Sheridan's way out, then it pretty much has to
survive.  I didn't see the mines, but if they are on the White Star, then
it'll probably drop them, Stuka-style.  I'm still baffled by what Garibaldi
thinks he's doing hitching a ride on a shadow ship.  If the White Star is
destroyed then maybe Garibaldi is Sheridan's way home, but I don't think so.
We're looking for a Sheridan-single-handedly-whomps-the-shadow story here,
not a Sheridan-has-his-butt-saved-by-Garibaldi story.  Anyway, if Garibaldi's
whole idea was to get to the shadow world, then there are simpler ways than
hitching a ride on a shadow ship.  No, Garibaldi has to be sticking with the
shadow fleet as part of some scheme to parley Sheridan's escape from the
shadow into a surprise twist attack on the shadow.  After all, Sheridan hasn't
really gained much by his little adventure to the shadow-world.  There has
to be a much bigger payoff than just him getting home with some fresh info.

<robh thinks that janc is trying to apply Trek logic to B5>

Re #32:
    That's an ingenious idea, but there are a couple of problems with it.
First, the H-bombs seem to be inside the _White Star_. I suppose they could
be in torpedo tubes ready  to be spit out, but it seems that they were in the
process of detonating just as the episode ended. The other problem is that
while Sheridan had breathing gear, he was not wearing a vacc suit, and if the
ship manages to get a wormhole open, Sheridan is going to find himself in some
rather hard vacuum.

Which is survivable for a while.

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