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by CORDELL GARRETT I would like to have Star Trek fans comment on what series you like the most. I just saw the two hour premier of Voyager Monday night. One word, excellent!! I especially like their crew, their different. Deep Space Nine is cool also. I would welcome your comments.
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I think its too early to tell about Voyager, but it did look promising. It did have the feel the TNG and DS9. Of course, there are those who don't like that feel so much, I suppose.
I really dislike Janeaway's voice. The actor's perfomance is very wooden. Maybe this will play out as an intentional part of the character. Or maybe she's just a bad actor.
I have been watching Star Trek for as long as I can remeber now. I must admit thawhile I liked DS9, it seemed, well, not quite Trek, you know? I think Voyager shows promise. It returns a little more that we all came to enjoy from Star Trek. Hmm...maybe
The only 'bad' thing I saw was after the ship gets yanked 70,000 light years and the crew is trying to figure out what's happened Janeway's hair is down and 'messed up'. There is a cut away and then we see her heading to I think engineering and her hair is just fine. Seems like a bad mistake for an otherwise decent show.
Mary, "wooden" commanders aren't real? The only Navy admiral I've ever met was just like that--wooden. Perhaps its a way of saying that women are still having to work harder than men are to get the same positions. Yecchh. Then again, Mr. Picard seemed pretty distant many times, too.
it shows her fixing it at one point (don't remember when, but I saw it)
Oh come on guys. Don't give away any plot points until Sunday. Up herein North. Michigan it doesn't air until Sunday. Nobody up here as seen it yet without satellite.
Probably most captains have to adjust their hair once in a while; though Picard never seemed to have that problem. :)
Hey Peacefrog, you think you got it bad with these guys.. how long d'ya think before all these reach me in the little ole UK :( Then again... I guess I'll get to know which ones not to stay in for, if everyone posts which are good and which not.. hmm, dilemmas, dilemmas.. ;)
When do you think you'll see it? I've never thought before about the lag in getting USA shows to europe.
Well, I'll probably miss it totally till you guys get the reruns.. ;) It'll probably make it over here in a couple years at a guess.. when hopefully I wont be.. jeez, what a sacrifice huh.? =)
I was disappointed in the first Voyager episode. It seems to be contrived from a mish-mash of other adventures, with stereotyped crises, and some very awkward segues - but I expect to watch at least a few more episodes. Oh yes - I attributed the character Janeway to be a method-acting creation based upon Katherine Hepburn.
Hah! The interstellar African Queen episode--stay tuned...
Shameless Comment- you can tell who watchs the show because it's Star Trek and who watches it hoping for good plots and good acting of, say, your average network drama. Re: The captian's hair- I don't remember seeing her fix it, but she may very well have. I think the problem I had was why would a captain be fumbling with her hair when a nice number of her crew were dead and another nice part of them injuered? Seemed out of place to me.
I saw her fix her hair and it did not distract from her command as it was more reflex than intentional. I like her voice and it was nice when Janeway smiled. Sometimes I wonder if Riker had some special futuristic gel for his hair.
It's pretty bad when the topic of discussion is about her hair! But I will admit she did have an annoying voice. Sounds like she smokes. It must be nice to be thrown out of starfleet academy and be a renegade and get field promotions right up to first officers and lt. commander. That seems a little far fetched. I wonder what kind of crew compliment she actually still commands? 10 people out of 110? I do think the holographic doctor is cool!! In regards to discussions about Star Trek in general which was the heading before the hair thing I think that would cool.
There was recently a special on PBS called 'The Science of Star Trek'. If any one hasn't seen it; pity. It was good.
Re.. the 'hair' thing. I was just making a comment. Go ahead and flame.
Re: the 'hair' thing. For some reason I remember it. It got knocked all around in the crash, which is what you would expect. She apparently has fairly long hair, which you would want *out* of your way when you're trying to do something important. So, in the next scene, when she's running down the corridor to engineering to help fix the frazdoodle that needs re-cabobulating you can see her shoving her hair back up *while* she's running. As someone else said, it seemed like a reflex action and seemed entirely appropriate. As for her voice, I've seen Kate MUlgrew in many tv shows over the years. She's always had a very throaty voice, and it sounds like her natural voice. I kind of like it. I also like the fact that she's also probably the first Sfemail ST character that couldn't double as a fashion model. She *looks* and *acts* like a commander.
I would describe her voice as nasal not throaty. Demi Moore has a throaty voice. Lauren Bacall has a throaty voice. Kate Mulgrew wishes she had a throaty voice. ;-)
Ok, point taken. But it *is* her real voice.
And she does have that wooden feeling of a commander.
Wooden is good, like Siskel and Picard....
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<Set anal mode=on> Re #23: The commander's name on DS9 is "Sisko". "Siskel" is a movie critic. :) <Set anal mode=off>
My wife remarked that Kate Mulgrew's voice sounds like Patty Duke's.
The segues were rough and/or non-existent at times. We liked it and will give it a try for a few episodes. If you will remember, the first TNG didn't seem all that strong. My biggest gripe with the silly thing is the music! Go ahead, hum the 'Voyager' theme; I dare you! P.S. My husband says Commander Kate is almost as desirable as Gates McFadden.
You are right. They are running the earliest TNG on 50, and they *are* rough.
Agreed. The first year of TNG was pretty awful. By comparison, the Voyager premier was pretty good. Considering the production crew is the same people who worked on TNG and DS9, this is not surprising. The problem is that the cast needs time to settle into/figure out their roles/characters.
I thought she sounded like Katherine Hepburn, too. I didn't think of The African Queen, though; I thought of True Grit. "Take the helm, Mr. Cogburn." "Aye, aye, sister!"
<sobbing> I missed it! unknowingly realizing it was on in the afternoon, i watched "jurrasic park" instead...<thinking> how low i have fallen :(
What do you think about the second episode? It reminded me of "Far Point Station". My apology to Ben for misspelling his name.
I thought it was weak, but it does start to build up the characters, which is good.
It would have made a reasonable half-hour show.
I kinda think that the "quantun singularity" is overused. Admittedly they've never had one do something like this before...but it was still kinda annoying (oh great, another singularity). I do like B'ellana...lots o potential there...the doctor is kinda neat too/.... Though I agree w/kes...he needs a nam,e just my $0.02
in the Jan 14-20 edition of TV Guide, the called the doctor Doc Zimmermann.
he died...the 'doctor' is a hologram w/o a name...
I'm certain he is Doc Zimmerman, because I just read an article in Entertainment Weekly and there is the crew of Voyager and it says "Robert Picardo Role: Doc Zimmerman, testy holographic ship's doctor." So, if he is w/o a name now, he will be getting one shortly or it's a mistake. Who knows?
It was probably one of the little details paramount let go of.
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