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Grex Scifi Item 46: Whatcha Reading?
Entered by mneme on Thu Sep 22 03:57:55 UTC 1994:

CBIP: Name of the Rose (Okay, so it's not SF; it's cool anyway)
LBR:  The WInter Prince (very nice Authurian book written as a ltetter
from Medraut to his mother.  More Monmouth's  (Georffrey; spelling)
Arthur than Mallory's, and some wonderful stylistic games, but don't
read the blurb; it consists of a summary of the book.  A very
complete, very good summary.  Read it for some interesting insight
AFTER your read the book.
ORCB: Little Big, Bimbos of the Death Sun, Swords and Ice Magic


In case you haven't figured it out yet, this item is for discussing
books you are reading, want to read, or have read recently, and
discussing books that others bring up in this item, regardless of
whether they fall in those categories for you.

34 responses total.



#1 of 34 by kentn on Thu Sep 22 16:34:42 1994:

CBIP = comp.binaries.ibm.pc
LBR = suffix for library archives (usu. Novosielsky CP/M libraries)
 
When you use acronyms, please define them first.  As you can see,
depending on context, some of your acronyms are in common usage
elsewhere with, I assume, different meanings.
 
Thanks.


#2 of 34 by mneme on Thu Sep 22 18:40:38 1994:

Please.  Given the context, the acronyms are obvious.  And really, which
one means 'curent book in progress" and which means "last book read"  It's
is inconsequential.  Just as if I complain about the s9ize of my TRQ (about 
1-200 books <sigh>), someone may figured out what the words contained in
the TLA are, and if not; who cares?  The entity I'm talking about is defined
through contex.


#3 of 34 by kentn on Thu Sep 22 20:47:55 1994:

Well, the context here is Grex the computer system, as well as the
books you read item...  My point is, and it is backed up all over the
place in writing style guides, that when you use an acronym, even one
you consider common, you need to define it so we're all on a level
playing field.  This is a new item, so I have no context to go on (for
example, previous discussion of "current books in process").  CBIP
appears to me to be a just-invented acronym, which makes the situation
even worse.
  As far as your item goes, how can I respond if I don't know what
categories of books you expect us to discuss?
  As you point out, if we can't figure out what these acronyms are,
"who cares?".  At this point I don't.  I'm forgetting this item.


#4 of 34 by kami on Thu Sep 22 21:09:00 1994:

actually, Josh, it really bothers me; I have trouble figuring out even
common acronyms, or remembering ones I don't hear quite frequently, so in
general I try to avoid them entirely. 
Not reading much just now, there's a lot I ought to be.


#5 of 34 by mneme on Thu Sep 22 22:48:52 1994:

        The point was that what the acronym meant was redundant
information; the item was created to find out what people are reading
(in SF, of course) and discuss it; had I simply ommited the acronyms,
rather than including them, no one would have misunderstood me; I've
still yet to recieve a response in the item which has anything to do
with the topic, rather than "style points."

        FYI(For your information), the acronyms were borrowed from
common usage on FIDO(not an acronym) SF (Speculative Fiction), along
with TRQ (To Read Quue) and MLAS (Mind like a Sieve) [not to meantion
MLAC [Mind like a a Cadigan/Colander]].  My general approach cryptic
algorithms is to ignore them and just respond to the topic if, after a
few moments, I can't figure them out.  If I really need to find
        
        Really, people; I wanted a discussion, not a half-baked
flamewar over reduntant acronyms.  Anyone want to post names (and,
optionaly, comentary) on books they've read recently?


IWADNAHBFW!




#6 of 34 by gregc on Sat Sep 24 17:31:10 1994:

Actually, considering your attitude, no.


#7 of 34 by robh on Sat Sep 24 17:33:13 1994:

Nope, not really.  Okay, I'll give you a hint, most of the characters
are dolhpins.


#8 of 34 by aruba on Sat Sep 24 18:04:47 1994:

I would guess that's Startide Rising, by David Brin.


#9 of 34 by robh on Sat Sep 24 19:30:55 1994:

Mmm, could be...


#10 of 34 by gregc on Sun Sep 25 05:21:10 1994:

Or he's rereading _Flipper_. Always going for the classics huh rob? :-)


#11 of 34 by mrbill on Tue Sep 27 02:25:12 1994:

q
Quit


#12 of 34 by dc on Tue Sep 27 14:03:53 1994:

Would this item include books on tape?


#13 of 34 by aruba on Tue Sep 27 23:20:38 1994:

Hi, Damon, Welcome to Grex!


#14 of 34 by mneme on Wed Sep 28 21:33:09 1994:

Sure, it can include books on tame, though they are kinda 
borderline.  I'm still reading Name of the Rose, though 
really should finish it so I can read Carol Stervemer's 
The SSerpent Egg (she's wthe one who co-wrote _Sorcery and 
Cecelia_.).
.s


#15 of 34 by tiliyn on Sat Oct 1 00:00:08 1994:

on acronyms: TAHRGOWTLFIOG, and IBM (this argument has really gone on far too
long for its own good, and its bugging me)

clearly, I'm new here, so hi everyone. and now... to books...
Has anyone read Arthur C. Clarke's semi-new book _Rama Revealed_?
I read the rest of the series and I'm sort of waiting nervously until I see it
in paperback.


#16 of 34 by aruba on Sat Oct 1 00:10:42 1994:

Alls I know is *The Garden of Rama* (the 3rd book) really annoyed me.  I wish
Clarke had never demeaned himself to get invloved with Gentry Lee, rocket
scientist though he may be.  Convicts in Space indeed!


#17 of 34 by robh on Sat Oct 1 13:16:03 1994:

I read _Rendezvous_with_Rama_, and I loved it too much to ruin it
by reading any of the "sequels".


#18 of 34 by aruba on Sun Oct 2 01:09:10 1994:

Good move, Rob, although the second book was tolerable.


#19 of 34 by mneme on Mon Oct 3 19:24:01 1994:

On ETLA's (Extended Three letter acronyms), YOIIH, and IBMT,SISN (Yes, oh,
indeed it has, and it's bugging me too, so I'll stop now).

Haven't read much Clarke, myself, aside from the 2K series.  Is any of it
sutable to a Heinlien and Schmitz "vacuum cleaner" fan who prefers low
fantasy? ;)

What's I've currently got in my to read queue, after Name of the Rose (which 
I'm still reading, as I'm spending to much time reading the net and not 
doing school work (the latter takes a considerable amount of time), is 
Carol Stevermer's _The Serpent's Egg_.  Looks like mannerpunk to me.

Carol IS the one who wrote _Sorcery and Cecilia_ with Patricia C. Wrede, 
isn't she?  S&C is one of thoe more interesting colaberations around, as 
we knw exactly how it was written: Patricia and Carol sent letters in 
character to each other, and then decided to clean it up for publication.
It's quite good, too.



#20 of 34 by aruba on Tue Oct 4 22:25:33 1994:

A lot of Clarke is suitable for Heinlein fans.  Less characterization and
more science, though.  That's neat about _Sorcery and Cecilia_.


#21 of 34 by mneme on Tue Oct 11 21:32:07 1994:

I've been prefering more Schmitz and Laferty (when I was reading stuff re
resembling SF) to Heinlien recently, and preocupation on style and character
is why I hold low fantasy to be my favorite subgenre, but I might eventually
read some more clarke, if only to say that I did.


#22 of 34 by mneme on Tue Oct 11 21:57:01 1994:

Oh, and incidentally, I finished Name of the Rose, and Serpent's Egg (which,
while having problems, is IMO, excelent).  And am not currently reading 
anything, but but the unstarted things in my backpack are Connie Willis's
_Lincoln's Dreams_ (Have to read something by the woman eventually), and 
Louise Cooper's Invanta (the third book in her "Indigo" series; allways 
stick tohe classics, I do;^).  Will probably read the trash first; the books
are rather fun, reasonably original, and I've got the six other books 
(two of which are read, of course) on my shelves.  But what I'm really
in the mood for reading Diane Duane's entire Door Into {foo} series, 
including the ones I've read and forgotten, like Door into Fire/Shadow.  Or
a book by Susan Cooper.


#23 of 34 by mneme on Thu Oct 27 17:55:09 1994:

Lincoln's Dreams was strange, and far more "magical Realism" than true SF.
I lost Infanta:(
What I'm currently reading is Octavia Butler's Mind of my Mind, which is quite
nice, kinda reminds more Lafferty's Fourth Mansion (which I loved), though
it's nothing like, really, and is in the same universe as her _Wild Seed_ (
(which is another book which I managed to lose before finishing; should really
aquire another copy).


#24 of 34 by kami on Tue Nov 1 02:49:22 1994:

Good Omens.


#25 of 34 by mneme on Wed Nov 2 08:26:00 1994:

Cool.  WOn't comment here,as I commendted 
currently not reading anything (extremely unusual for me), butI just finsihed 
Kipling's Fantasy Stories (anyone understand teh ending of the last one)?
and before that, consumed a destroyer novel.


#26 of 34 by kami on Fri Nov 4 04:17:36 1994:

whicodd, I guesss I have permissions on after all.  theis what?  that's odd.


#27 of 34 by mneme on Fri Nov 4 15:30:54 1994:

Huh?  That it, no more obscure abreviations for me (at lieast, not without 
context).  


Currently reading Lovecraft's Lurking Fear compilation.


#28 of 34 by peacefrg on Tue Nov 22 22:58:39 1994:

Catherine Kurtz Derinii series


#29 of 34 by mneme on Thu Nov 24 02:42:33 1994:

Heh. Hzven't read those for ages; liked the first 6 books, read the first 9, 
and put down Heritics in the middle, as I was being both bored and depressed.
        Something about her slowly and dramatically leading up tostuff that you
allready know is going to happen...
        My current reading material is Tanith Lee's Dont bite the sun, about a 
teenager in a world where machines do aeverything, anwhen you commit suicide,
they'll pick your body off the firmament, and let you choose your next body 
and telepath (ro something) it to all your friends.  Feeling echos of deja 
vous, but I may have just previously read Drinking Sapphire Wine.


#30 of 34 by peacefrg on Thu Nov 24 03:37:46 1994:

Not really along the sci fi line, But have you read
Brother sun, sister moon? Wonderful book that even sci-fi readers
would enjoy. How about Ayn Rand?


#31 of 34 by mneme on Sat Nov 26 20:14:34 1994:

"That even sci-fi readers would enjoy?"


#32 of 34 by gelinas on Thu Nov 6 14:57:17 2003:

I just finished "Telzey Amberdon", the first volume of "The Complete
Federation of the Hub", edited by Eric Flint and Guy Gordon.  I like
James Schmitz' stories, but I've never found enough of them.


#33 of 34 by tpryan on Sat Nov 15 21:22:24 2003:

        Wow.  First Grexer to finish a book in 9 years.  I was kinda
freaking on the wake up date of this item.


#34 of 34 by gelinas on Sun Nov 16 00:17:36 2003:

 :)

I've now read the second volume, "T 'n T : Telzey and Trigger" and am working
on the third, "Trigger and Friends."

Of course, I've read lots of other stuff in the past few years.  Lots of David
Duncan, for example.

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