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Grex Scifi Item 37: Fantasy Authors
Entered by canis on Thu Feb 24 02:37:29 UTC 1994:

I'm looking for some good fantasy writers know any????
I like books, by Tolken, Micheal Moorcock, David Eddings, C.S. Lewis, and the
like.

63 responses total.



#1 of 63 by vidar on Thu Feb 24 03:51:38 1994:

Troy Denning, Simon Hawke ar good.
That is if you like Adventure Novels.


#2 of 63 by anne on Sun Feb 27 22:50:32 1994:

Mercedes Lackey is good- if you like other world stuff she has three
trilogies about a place called Valdemar, a duology related, and a single
book that is also related.
If you like fantasy as it takes place on earth, she has three Diana
Tregarde books- those are like mystery/fantasy, and a sort of series
about elves living oin LA and somewhere on the Est (East) Coast. 
the first one is Knight of CGhosts and Shadows.


#3 of 63 by jep on Tue Mar 1 08:50:19 1994:

        You would probably enjoy Steven Brust's "Teckla", "Jhereg"", etc.
series, about a magic using assassin; very entertaining reading.  Brust is
Hungarian by ethnic background.  Many of his other books, such as "The
Sun, the Moon and the Stars", draw on Hungarian literary tradition.  He's
a wonderful writer.
        If you like Eddings, try Raymond Feist, Katherine Kurtz and Piers
Anthony (especially his "Split Infinity" series).
        No one else writes like Moorcock as he wrote in his "Elric", "Count
Brass" and "Hawkmoon" books, but if you liked those, you'd probably also
like Roger Zelazny's "Amber" books.  The original "Chronicles of Amber" is
a classic that no fantasy reader should miss.


#4 of 63 by young on Thu Mar 3 03:52:30 1994:

        I would definitely recommend Ursula LeGuin's first three
Earthsea books, although the fourth isn't quite up to par.
        Tolkein, of course, remains as a classic, but I wouldn't rec-
ommend LOTR unless you've got a LOT of time to kill, and the
SILMARILLION is terribly dense.


#5 of 63 by kami on Thu Mar 3 17:57:53 1994:

as to Tolkien, I always saw The Hobbit as a folk tale cycle, LOFR as a heroic
epic, and Sillmarillion as the mythology of his world.  As such, it's fun to
fit it together and map it to other such systems.  Not for the faint hearted.
The fantasy authors I grew up on were CS Lewis, George MacDonald, Lord Dunsany,
Charles Williams and Tolkien in one group, Molly Hunter, Susan Cooper, Lucy M.
Boston in another, and Edward Eager, Robert Nathan, Andre Norton, Tamora Pierce
Lloyd Alexander, Evangeline Walton are two other sets of authors (grouping for
similarity of theme or background).


#6 of 63 by silvers on Mon Mar 7 10:04:38 1994:

gee, i didn't know anyone else liked moorcock but me



#7 of 63 by kami on Mon Mar 7 22:05:08 1994:

either you dod or you don't, he ain
(try that again) Either you do or you don't, he ain't light beer.


#8 of 63 by vidar on Tue Mar 8 01:36:02 1994:

Drift.  Annoying.


#9 of 63 by kami on Tue Mar 8 21:09:45 1994:

not drift- referring to Author Michael Morcock.  WHile we're at it, put 
Lovecraft and Harlan Ellison in the same category.  Of the three, I like the
last.


#10 of 63 by vidar on Wed Mar 9 00:04:36 1994:

Hard to tell.  Not wired at last login...


#11 of 63 by gwenm on Fri Mar 18 02:17:51 1994:

When reading Misty Lakey's stuff, Valdermar, the Shin'i'in, WEST COAST elves (
"Knight of Ghosts and Shadows", & Dianna Tregaard mysteries are good.  Avoid
like the plague her novels from the "SERRAted Edge".  They have only one plot:
A child is in big danger from its surroundings, which include magical dangers,
and only the Good, Kind, Noble, High Court Elf can save it and friends and the
world.  The child is then re-united w/ its long lost family and lives happily
ever after. There is also a blurb at the end for the "Cernter for Lost &
Exploited Children". DEPRESSING STUFF!!!!!!! need i say more...


#12 of 63 by geg on Sun Mar 27 17:08:37 1994:

Elizabeth Moom-Deeds of PaksenarrionO (moon) Robert Holdstock, Robin McKinley
and Barbara Hambly are pretty good fantasy writers as well


#13 of 63 by vidar on Sun Mar 27 21:05:50 1994:

Cool... (sorry about my drifting)


#14 of 63 by anne on Tue Mar 29 21:16:22 1994:

re #11  I happen to like the ERRAted Edge books.  And the rescuer isn't
*always* a high court elf!  In the first book the hero was Tannim, a
human mage.  
But I do agree that there is always a child in danger, somehow. I still
like them nevertheless.
o


#15 of 63 by top on Tue Apr 12 22:42:08 1994:

Yeah, but theyre so -- so -- icky! (I LIKE Lackey, don't get me wrong,
but her fixation with rape and child molestation has gotten real old,
real fast.... plus, the last two or three SERRAted Edges seemed tobe
such assembly line crap... I like reading an author's books, but I also
like the books to have taken more than three months to write, f'Gosh
sakes...)


#16 of 63 by vidar on Wed Apr 13 01:38:02 1994:

I have yet to explore more fantasy authors.  I'll post a reasonable
response when I have had the chance to read more.  Which may not
be until I return from Malaysia.


#17 of 63 by md on Wed Apr 13 14:19:12 1994:

Has anyone mentioned Richard Adams yet?  You don't hear much about
him anymore, but _Shardik_ is one of the great fantasy novels of
all time, in my opinion.  _Watership Down_ was very popular in its
day, but I don't know if it qualifies as a fantasy novel (an "orthodox"
fantasy novel, anyway).  But _Shardik_ rules.  It has, among other
things, one of the vilest and most hateful villains in all of
fiction (the child-slaver Genshed), and Adams has him come to the
most excruciatingly horrible end imaginable.  Most satisfying, if
you like that sort of thing.  Plus the great bear himself, of course,
a huge figure of doom and retribution who haunts the novel almost
from the first page.  I've gotta read that again some day soon.


#18 of 63 by mneme on Wed Apr 13 16:53:45 1994:

        Patricia Mcillip's stuff (_Forgotten Beasts of Eld_;
_Riddlemaster of Hed_ trillogy, other stuff) is utterly wonderful, in
the style of myths (but her myths, while drawing on Celtic stuff for
names heavily, are original).
        Steven Brust, in addition to writing fun books, has
exceptional styles; ranging from the mysterious Agyar (not a Taltos
book) to _The Phoenix Guards_, which, in addition to being in the same
world as the taltos books, is a wonderful Dumas (_Three Musketeers_)
pastiche (He recently published a sequel: _Five Hundred Years After_).
        Glen Cook's Black Company series is loved my most who've read
it, if certainly  not all, but regardles, it's a wonderful read.
        (If I was at home, I'd go down my bookshelf and type in the
goodies, but as it is, I'll just add one more)
        Patricial C. Wrede.  Writer of both good juvenile fiction and
such treats as Sorcery and Cecelia, Malerion the Magician, and THe
harp of Imach Thistle, she should be tried by all.
        Oh, and any author whose written a Fairy Tales Series book
Is very much worth reading.



#19 of 63 by vidar on Wed Apr 13 23:50:36 1994:

Re#17: You can tail back and find out by typing '0' at the respond or
pass prompt.


#20 of 63 by kami on Thu Apr 14 17:51:31 1994:

I love McKillip's writing as well as her stories. Suddenly reminded me of
LeGuin's "Rocannon's World"- sort of science fiction window on a fantasy
world.  I love most of what Charles DeLint has written- lovely magical
fantasy, some slightly Celtic, with hints of other mythos' in various books.
And of course, Diana Paxton has some lovely stuff although her style doesn't
stand out that consistently.  Two different issues here: what is being said
and HOW it's being said- not that many really outstanding crafters of words
these days, I think.  Many writers are positively interchangeable.


#21 of 63 by mneme on Fri Apr 15 17:11:11 1994:

        I haven't read "Rocannon's World," though it rings a bell.  I
assume it's very much worth reading (but then, it's Le Guin)?  Agreed
on De Lint and Paxon, though I'm sadly behind on both of them; I
haven't read most of De Lint's early stuff, nor Paxon's recent
non-Westria stuff, yet.
        What's interesting about the good stylists (aside from their
scarcity) are how many of them live in Minesotta.       


#22 of 63 by kami on Sat Apr 16 05:38:06 1994:

Minne-where-the-fuck?! you're shittin' me.  I'll put in a vote for Ontario
but I don't know where anyone else is from.  New item- where are favorite
authors from and what difference does it make??


#23 of 63 by geg on Sat Apr 16 17:19:43 1994:

Horwood (duncton wood, callanish, etc) is a writer who crafts some
wonderful words (and he's not from minnesota),  martin hocke (an
ancient solitary reign) pens some wonderful words as well.


#24 of 63 by mneme on Sun Apr 17 05:10:48 1994:

Sorry, didn't mean Minesotta, meant Minneapolis.  You know, where the
Scriblies live?  Not to meantion Jane Yolen.  Geography doesn't matter
much for writing talent, but I was trying to talk about a specific
group.
Re:#23 Horwood what??  WHat does he write (same for Hocke)?


#25 of 63 by aruba on Mon Apr 18 01:46:47 1994:

I liked Oron Scott Card's Alvin Maker books.  I also liked Linda Haldeman's
Lastborn of Elvinwood.


#26 of 63 by randall on Tue Apr 19 07:43:32 1994:

On a whim, after seeing it here, I checked "Shardik" out of the library.
Incredible!  Everyone run, now, got get it, anyway you can!  Actually
there's a copy sitting on the table in from of David's.  At least there
was yesterday.


#27 of 63 by donna on Sun May 8 10:50:11 1994:

Check out Mythago Wood by Robert Holdstock (winner World Fanatasy award
1986 for it..) and its related stories: Lavondyss, The Bone Forrest, The Fetch
and The Hollowing!! (Very good, unusual fantasy..) Thomas The Rhymer by Ellen
Kushner is also pretty good, for those of you that like fantasy with folk lore
(irish)...


#28 of 63 by mneme on Mon May 9 01:10:08 1994:

Read and liked Mythago Wood, though I haven't read all of the associated
stories; just Mythago wood and _The Bone Forest_, I think.

All of the Fairy Tales stories are good, icnludeing _Thomas the Rhymer_, 
_The Nightingale_(By Kara Dalkey), Steven Brust's _The Sun, the Boon, and the 
Stars_, Jane Yolen's _Briar Rose_,and a bunch of othe works.



#29 of 63 by kami on Mon May 9 06:27:27 1994:

I've been enjoying the Fairy Tales stories, too, including Charles DeLint's
Jack the Giant Killer version.  Couldn't make my way through Mythago Wood.


#30 of 63 by anne on Wed May 11 02:09:10 1994:

I thought I should put this in- in the Books cf there is an item
about fantasy entered by yours truly.



#31 of 63 by kami on Wed May 11 02:25:48 1994:

oh.  another cf to swallow my vanishing time?  sigh.  why not link the items?


#32 of 63 by selena on Tue Nov 8 16:17:48 1994:

        Perhaps you should also try Christopher Stasheff, particularly his 
"Warlock" series of at least ten books! Good stuff!


#33 of 63 by cyberpnk on Tue Nov 8 20:27:51 1994:

Michael moorcock has a new book out in hardcover titled 'The Eternal Champion.'
It contains stories from throughout the Eternal Champion series. Also, 
Steven Brust's next book in the Vlad Taltos series (which, BTW, I enjoy
VERY much), is supposed to be titled Orca.


#34 of 63 by jep on Thu Nov 10 05:43:25 1994:

        I read Brust's "Phoenix Guards", which succeeds admirably in being
long, wordy and boring.  I finished it, but don't plan on continuing with
that part of the series, which is set in the same world, but earlier in
time, as the Taltos books.  I hope Orca is a return to the original
series.  The original series is brilliant and fascinating.


#35 of 63 by cyberpnk on Thu Nov 10 21:57:02 1994:

I found Phoenix Guards to be interesting, myself. His last book in the Vlad
Taltos series 'Aythra' I thought was okay, but not like the previous ones.


#36 of 63 by mneme on Tue Nov 15 01:10:41 1994:

John, you don't seem to "get" Phoenix Guards.  It succeds admirably in being
a beautiful and accurate Dumas pastiche, intelegent (for Dumas characters) 
characters, and an interesting plot.  And true to it's model, it's NEVER 
boring.
Of course, if you can't stand a good translation of "the THreee Musketeers," 
you probably won't like it.
        All of the vlad books take the character of their name, with tekla
being a bit boring (far more boring than TFG), and yendi being the most
convoluted.  Orca should be what, brutal and fast?


#37 of 63 by cyberpnk on Tue Nov 15 18:07:11 1994:

Watery, probably. I just finished 'Five Hundred Years After' sequel to 'The
Phoenix Guards' and it was GOOD.


#38 of 63 by mneme on Thu Nov 17 07:28:44 1994:

Read _Five Hundred Years After_ before it came out in paperback.  Yeah, it's
good all right.  Makes m want to read _20 Years After_, come to that.

And while Killer wales live in the water, I don't know if I'd describe them a
as "wattery."


#39 of 63 by morgayn on Tue Dec 6 15:17:59 1994:

  Why has no one mentioned Marion Zimmer Bradley? Come on, now I have spoken to
  some of you and you have mentioned her as a very good contributor to this
  wonderful field of fiction. Eeep. 


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