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I just read a story in a recent issue of a trade magazine, thaat Paramount has decided there will be no more ST:TNG Star Trek movies. Apparently the last one, Star Trek: Insurrection, under performed at the box office, and the suits told exec. producer Rick Berman that any future movies would have to be done much cheaper. Specifically, they wanted to cut down on cast costs by axing Patrick Stewart. Stewart, as Picard, made $15 million for doing the last film (about triple what anyone else made). So they suggested making the next movie with Riker (Jonathan Frakes) as Captain, and saying Picard retired or died or something. They also wanted to cut way back on the special effects budget and .etc Of course Berman said, "who would want to see a STN:TNG movie *without* Picard"? So there are now no plans for a new Star Trek movie at any time in the near future. Berman is instead planning the next Star Trek series, which is rumored to be the Star Trek: The Starfleet Academy Years series which would feature new actors playing the young Kirk, Spock, and McCoy when they were in Starfleet Academy. Ugh!
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No loss (to me at least) to hear that there won't be any more ST movies. The proposed new series, though, sounds not only frighteningly bad but also like it is, quite possibly, the most effective way they could think of to completely alienate the ST fan base (assuming the series will be as bad as it is likely to be..)
It sound like Paramount wants to beat the ST franchise to death. Why not make a wacky sitcom with Lwaxana Troi while we're at it?
Does anyone remember a film called something like "Young Sherlock Holmes"? The Starfleet Academy idea sounds just as bad. I'm sure that Kirk, Spock, and McCoy would be hanging around together all the time, the same way they did in all the post-series movies, in complete contradiction to military reality, which says that people get reassigned and move on all the time. (The better Trek fan fiction recognizes this, and deals with things like accidental encounters between old friends years later.)
Is there any "canon" on what the 3 amigos were doing prior to cohabitation abord the Enterprise? All the way back to SFA?
Starfleet Academy has been kicked around as the setting for a new Star Trek TV series for a couple of years. But this is the first I've heard that it would include younger versions of Kirk, Spock and McCoy. Putting it there in time would be a major set and costume design headache, if nothing else. And then there is the continuity mess: you couldn't have Klingons except as bad guys; you couldn't have Romulans at all. No Borg, and probably no Cardassians or Bajorans. No, start over with a bunch of young hunks and babes playing entirely new characters. "Starfleet: 90210" or "Starfleet: Friends" or "Starfleet Place" or... :)
So Colm Neely (Miles O'Brien on DS9) might have a job afterall?
I think they should have let the Dominion or the Borg or some such take over the Federation, Star Fleet and Earth. Then do a series focused on a small number of assorted rebels fighting to break the new evil-guys-in-charge Federation.
That might've been interesting but it was Never Going to Happen..
I think DS9 is about as dark and gritty as Star Trek is ever going
to get (and not by coincidence it's about the only one of the series
I can stand to watch anymore (although that distinction is largely
moot in my current voluntarily TV-less state..))
As far as having a "wacky sitcom based on Lwaxana (sp?) Troi":
that sounds uncomfortably close to TNG as it is.. hypothetical
writer's meeting:
Writer 1: We need a plot for next week's episode!
Writer 2: You know the rules.. Spin the wheel!
[Writer 1 spins a large wheel at the back of the room.
The pointer clicks by slots labelled "Q" and "Mysterious
Form of Energy" before settling on "Mrs. Troi"]
Writer 1: Damn! Not *again*!!
Writer 2: Well, at least they're easy to write. C'mon, let's
go down to the "I Love Lucy" archives..
[The following week]
Lwaxana Troi: Why can't I go to the bridge? I want to go to the bridge!
Waaaaaaah! Jean-Luc!
Capt. Picard: Lucy, I tell you before, you no can come to the club!
<ahem..> I mean: Mrs. Troi, you will please leave the
bridge at once and remain in your quarters for the
duration of this crisis.
Deanna Troi: Mooooother!!
[sound of laugh track..]
The Starfleet Academy idea was originally supposed to be the movie Star Trek V. Harve Bennett, the producer of Trek II, III and IV (the trilogy) realized Shatner, Nimoy, and DeForest Kelley, were getting too old to continue making moviesmuch longer. So the idea was going to be to reintroduce Kirk, Spock and McCoy in flashbacks to their starfleet academy years as their young selves, showing how they met (Kirk befriending the outcast Spock, the victim of racism being the only alien at the academy at that time) The idea was that the younger actors playing the old familiar characters could take them over for future movies. Bennet's idea was shot down by Gene Roddenberry, who correctly felt that the actors Shatner, Nimoy, Kelley were too closely identified with the roles to accept anyone else playing them on the big screen. They made Star Trek V instead without Bennet producing, but with the old actors (debateable as whether that was a good idea since "Final Frontier" is considered one of the worst Trek movies) What happened of course is that Bennett quit as the producer of the movies to concentrate on doing the Starfleet Academy idea as a tv series. The TV series got completely reworked on the drawing board when they couldnt find the right young actors to play kirk and spock, and ended up as Star Trek: The Next Generation instead. So its not a new idea but an old one, and there have been plenty of Trek flashback novelizations that have done well.
I was pointed to a Web page about a possible "Star Trek: Excellent" series. The Excellent would be a new, big, yada yada, Star Fleet ship in a somewhat remote part of the galaxy (6 months travel time from Earth) which was already mentioned somewhere, but was too stable for any plot. Then [new bad guys appear | things get weird | something] and the only real force in the area is the newly arrived Excellent.
The Excellent? thats a stupidname for a ship? why not use the U.S.s. Excalibur? that ship must be still in spacedock somewhere.
How about "spam trek: richard" for a long-winded series? ;-)
The U.S.S. Excellent? Sounds like a ship captained by Wayne and Garth. >I think they should have let the Dominion or the Borg or some such take >over the Federation, Star Fleet and Earth. Then do a series focused on >a small number of assorted rebels fighting to break the new >evil-guys-in-charge Federation. If you like that kind of dark idea, I suggest you seek out the old BBC series "Blakes 7." In Trek terms, it can be described something like this: the Klingons have taken over the Federation and try to frame Kirk. [Didn't that actually happen in one of those lame movies?] Our heroes steal the Enterprise, half-heartedly intending to be freedom fighters. Then Kirk disappears, and Spock slowly starts to crack under the strain of command ...
Re racism at Starfleet Academy: I seem to remember that another ship, presumably of the Enterprise class, had a predominately Vulcan crew. How/where did that crew get sufficient training and experience, if not at the Academy? (But then, why would the similarity between Vulcan and Romulan have caused such dis-ease at the first meeting, if Vulcans were so thoroughly integrated. "A foolish consistency" perhaps?)
In the early Trek, ISTR, the Federation didn't know what the Romulans looked like at first.
That would have been the Intrepid, which perished in the "Amoeba" episode (TOS).
They could make a new Star Trek series, with a whole new ship and a whole new crew without to much trouble. They actually have a viable enemy alien species out there they could be fighting (remember the little buggy things that sent the message back home?) out in the remote reaches of the federation. Don't have to worry about make up since they seem to like inhabiting various aliens bodies. They are not as powerful as the Borg or the Hiver spicies in the delta quadrant, and they are remote enough that resupply from starfleet would be a chancy and sometimes thing. Unfortunately, we are not writing the shows. sigh.
wow, I just saw this item again. I'm happy I can say #0 which I posted two years ago saying reports there would never be another star trek movie were false! Patrick Stewart and co. are in fact set to start filming the 10th movie in the Star Trek film canon in October. And the new Stark Trek Series, Enterprise, starring Scott Bakula of Quantum Leap as the new captain, premiers soon. Star Trek lives!
Would "Stark Trek" be a new Donald Westlake project? :) ((Probably someone should start an item for the new Enterprise series.))
When will the new movie be out?
My vague memory/guess is that they would be aiming for Thanksgiving 2002.
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