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One of my recurrent complaints about "modern" education is that it is so weak on science that even HS graduates (and many non-technical college graduates) are unable to appraise and understand the facts of things they encounter in the news, in political debate, and even in every-day life. This leaves them unable to participate meaningfully in discussions about the issues or even appraise the sides, and forces them to make a choice based on charisma or agreement on some other criterion (such as Political/Theological Correctnesss) rather than the merits. Here's my stab at providing a forum for laying out the merits. First topic: The DHL/Aeroflot mid-air collision over Europe yesterday. There has been some question about the Aeroflot pilot's English comprehension, and how much time he was given to respond to the request to change altitude. The first reports said the Aeroflot pilot had 2 minutes, current reports say he may have had as little as 1 minute. How much time would actually be required to avoid a collision? My take on it: Airliners are easily capable of handling 0.8/1.2 G in maneuvering. If the Aeroflot pilot had immediately pushed over to a 0.8 G arc when he received the request to change altitude, he would have accelerated downward at a rate of 1.96 m/sec^2 relative to the earth. The aircraft would have descended about 1 meter in the first second, 4 meters after 2 seconds, 9 meters after 3 seconds, and 25 meters after 5 seconds. Few aircraft are 25 meters tall. And even after pulling up to a 1.0 G flight path, the aircraft would have continued to descend at roughly 5 meters per second until the pilot pulled up further to level flight. In short, it appears that a collision could have been avoided by action as late as 5 seconds before impact - 60 seconds should have done the trick easily. And a 0.8 G or 1.2 G maneuver is hardly severe, even for air transports. My appraisal is that the collision was the fault of the Aeroflot pilot failing to act, and beyond that the failure of the EU to require TCAS equipment on all airliners flying through its airspace. (The DHL aircraft had Traffic Collision Avoidance Systems active, the Aeroflot did not.)
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A report in the paper this morning said that the 757 transport plane had a collision avoidance system that detected the Aeroflot plane and told the pilot to descend, which he did. The planes collided while they were both descending to avoid a collision. (I thought that avoidance instructions also included both planes turning (to starboard?). This would have helped avoid a collision.)
Re #1: That's what I heard, too...the traffic controllers told the Aeroflot plane three times to descend. By the time he finally complied, the 757 pilot had already started a descent requested by his TCAS.
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Corrections:
(1) The Tupolev airliner was operated by Bashkirian Airlines, not Aeroflot.
(2) The rate of descent after 5 seconds would be about 10 meters per
second, not 5. A prompt reaction would definitely have done the job.
What a difference a few days makes. As it turns out, the Russian plane DID have TCAS (I assumed it did not because it is supposed to make this kind of accident impossible). What happened: the TCAS systems on both planes negotiated avoidance maneuvers; the DHL plane started to descend and the Russian plane started to climb. The Swiss controller, out of the loop and acting late, ordered the Russian plane to descend. The Russian pilot should have ignored Swiss ATC and followed the TCAS instructions, and all would have been well; but instead he descended right into the DHL plane. Compounding this: German ATC saw the collision coming several minutes ahead, but were unable to reach Swiss ATC on the telephone hotline; the Swiss phones were partially out of order.
Do you know of a reason why they don't also have a turn for both planes in the TCAS procedure? This could also have avoided a collision even with the controller error.
Re #7: This isn't knowledge, just deduction: TCAS works using the altitude-encoding transponders on the respective aircraft, so there is good altitude information available to the systems. The location, heading and speed info is far less accurate if available at all. Thus the system can make reliable climb/descend recommendations but not steering recommendations. In the days of VOR, head-on collisions were unlikely because the accuracy of the nav systems wasn't sufficient to run two aircraft into each other. Now we have GPS, which is more than accurate enough to do just that; improved accuracy has ironically made the system more dangerous. Offsetting flight paths by 100 meters to the right of the center of air corridors would eliminate this.
There have still been a lot of collisions over VOR beacons. It's one of the more dangerous places to be from a traffic avoidance standpoint, because planes are converging on it from various directions.
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