Since this information does not exactly fit anywhere within the items already
created, I am putting it in a new one.  Besides, I need ideas.  This item is
a description of coin names, worth, and appearances in my Multiverse.

Coin Material (usually metal)           Coin Name               Gold Ratio
Ceramic (clay)                          "Bauble"                1/100 gp
Copper                                  "Pfennig"               1/100 gp
Tin
Silver                          "Silver Dabus"          1/10 gp
Electrum                                                        1/2 gp
Gold                                    "Double Lady"           1 gp
Platinum                                "Fyn"                   5 gp
Steel                                   "Arkyne"

The gold ratio is what fraction of a gold piece each coin represents, 1/100
being one one-hundredth and so-on.

Coin Appearances

Coin Name               Heads                   Tails
Bauble                  Raajak
Pfennig
Tin
silver Dabus            Two Dabus               Cranium Rat
Electrum
Golden Double Lady      Lady of Pain            Lady of Pain
Fyn                     Elminster               Raistlin
Arkyne                  Arcane                  *The Spelljammer*

If you have any input on either names or values please speak up, otherwise
consider this item a refference.

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Wouldn't you just know it!!  I misnamed what I've been having people call
Coppers.  Coppers are still "farthing", not "Pfennig".

Do mine eyes decieve me?  New items?

Fair enough--if you're going to try to ressurect this thing, I'd be more than
happy to help.  :)

I've got an adventure brewing that should be more conducive to on-line gaming:
less combat, fewer ability rolls, and more problem-solving.  I should be able
to have it up and running in a few days.

And now, for relevancy.  If your gold coin is a double lady, 'single lady'
might be logical for the electrum coin, based on their values.  Does she have
any attributes that are traditionally given to her--distinctive looking
posessions, etc?  If so, these would make a good image for the 'single lady',
with the lady of pain's image on the 'double lady'.

Well, on the "Double Lady" there is only the bladed face of the Lady of Pain
present on each side.  Perhaps your "Single Lady" should have a profile view
on the heads, and perhaps Fell (the Fallen Dabus) on the Tails side?

That would work too.  I'm afraid I don't know enough about the planescape
mythos to be of any more help.

There's not that much to know: The Lady of Pain is the most important person
in the Multiverse, the Dabus (except Fell) are her servants, Factol Erin
Darkflame Montgomery (Sensates) and Factol Duke Rowan Darkwood (Fated) are
the two most important people in Sigil.  Thats about it.

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I was talking with one of my so-called friends the other day, and we came up
with what the double lady should say on both sides.

Heads: In the Lady we . . . uh . . . FEAR.
Tails: In Powers we trust?

I've also considered the Single Lady coin, although I am still not sure what
to use for its tail side, heads, will be a full body view of the Lady of Pain.

I still have to play with Ceramic, Copper, and Tin, as well.

_In_ the Lady we fear is good paralell construction, but not grammatically
correct, says the local grammar bitch.  Try "The Lady we Fear" and "The powers
we trust"

You think you're a grammar bitch?  Obviously you weren't paying attention to
vidar a couple years ago.

Yes, however the all caps on the word fear and the question mark after "The
powers we trust" will stay.

Ah, the question mark _was_ part of the quote.  I figured you were just
uncertain about whether or not to keep it.

Okay.  Spank you for the clarification.

Being a grammer bitch sucks.  :P  I mean there's plenty of gramatically
incorrect writing in liturature that's still very pretty... (Coyote's thinking
of "How Green Was My Valley", in particular...)

I stopped.  However, it is still annoying when people blatantly ignore 
or forget the easiest aspects of grammar, e.g. the case of using "your" 
(the possessive) everywhere, when "you're" (you are) is more 
appropriate.

I don't much mind it in writing, or even in conversation.  I just have a few
pet peeves.

Incidentally, returning to the coin thing, are you doing anything of interest
with coin _shapes_, or are they all just round?

Maybe.
The Ceramic Bit (worth 1/10th of a ceramic piece) is roughly triangular.
Apart from that, I'm not sure about different coin shapes.

One thing I was thinking is, why are coins necessarily geometric shapes?  I
mean, if a coin is going to be made with a profile on it, and it's a high
enough valued coin to merit the added effort, why not make the edge of the
coin follow the profile, for instance?

Hmm . . . I'll take it into consideration at the very least.

Another thought - does the order you've listed them in imply that steel is
more valuable than platinum?  If so, why?

No, it implies that they're in order where I know the value.  Empty
denominations are set in their place because it was convienient.  However,
since I have played Dragonlance when it *was* AD&D, I have very good reason
to believe that steel is worth more than platinum - but since I don't know
that for sure . . .

umm, why is steel worth more than platinum anyway?

I don't know that it is.
I need somebody's Dragonlance stuff before I could tell you that.

i meant in dragonlance in generall, it's jsut silly

The idea, in dragonlance, is that metal values were based on utility rather
than scarcity, which is somewhat unrealistic, but so be it.  The result of
this is that soft metals like gold were worth less than hard metals like
steel.  But the list here was neither in order of hardness nor in order of
scarcity, so I was wondering...

It's in order of value to one gold piece, and then only when I know that
rating.  Materials without comparison values sit where they are because it
was convinient to include them despite not knowing their relation to the gold
piece.

bah humbug
steal was to usefull to make into coins! that was the whole point!
besides, gold and platium are TERRIBLY usefull, since they don't rust
or deteriorate

Well, usefulness is determined by the situation, too...
I suppose an equivalent situation would be the (zinc?) pennies made during
WWII to conserve copper.  There was a use for copper more pressing than
coinage, so a substitute was made.  But, i don't think the copper pennies that
remained in circulation went up in value, just because copper was more
useful...

I actually do have Dragonlance (as AD&D) stuff now, so I can know the actual
values of the Tin and Steel pieces.  I also came up with what to use for the
tails of the Ceramic piece: Athas during the Green Age.  For the Copper I am
going to use the two most important people in Sigil, in alphabetical order,
therefore Darkwood goes on the Heads, and Montgomery goes on Tails.

Refering to the issue of shapes, I pondered making the gold coin octogonal.
Maybe I'll make the steel piece dodecahedral.

Amendment: The Tin piece should be an Iron or Bronze Piece.
I figured out what Dragonlance Currency would be in AD&D Standard.
An Iron or Bronze piece is equal in value to the gold piece.  A Steel piece
is worth 2 gold pieces.

Some more I came up with: Iron/Bronze (Heads: Solamnic Knight of the Rose,
Tails: Sivak Draconian)
I don't have any more messages for the coins though.

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