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Grex Reality Item 9: Is A Purpose Important?
Entered by weary on Wed May 5 01:01:16 UTC 1993:

People need really weird things.

What's your purpose to keeping on with your life?  Why do you bother to
feed yourself?  Most of us have a routine that carries us along.  Are
you just automatically following through some routine, working your job
so that you can buy food so that you can eat?  Would it be just as hard
to quit that routine as to stop breathing?

87 responses total.



#1 of 87 by arthur on Wed May 5 03:00:53 1993:

   I find a great deal of meaning in play.  If my life is not
playful, it gets wearying.  Play gives me joy, no matter where
I end up doing it.  The other thing life is for is to stretch
myself.  Not stretching self is to stagnate.

   Most of life is fun, if you do not clasp what little of it
you have too tightly.  If you clasp it too tightly to yourself,
you cannot move.


#2 of 87 by robh on Wed May 5 04:20:37 1993:

I must keep on living because there are still books I haven't read.

(Hey, it beats "I just wanna get laid.")


#3 of 87 by mythago on Wed May 5 16:01:09 1993:

Not to some people... :*
 
If I don't feed myself, I get hungry and people make me eat.


#4 of 87 by danr on Fri May 7 11:31:14 1993:

I feed myself because I like to eat.  Life's a blast.


#5 of 87 by tsty on Sun May 9 05:56:20 1993:

I feed myself when all else fails. I prefer to eat more, but too many
times, I simply forget to eat. Now and then I hit the wall, but I've
learned whatthe warning signs are, and haven'T done so for 10 or so
years. Mattere of fact, haven't come all that close in recent memory.
  
Snacks don't cut it, btw, gotta +eat+ someting substantial.


#6 of 87 by raven on Mon May 17 00:05:19 1993:

Suprise, suprise keeps ma alive. Who knows who I'll meet, or what I'll
see, smell, touch, taste, or feel tomorow. [should be keeps me alive]


#7 of 87 by tired on Mon May 17 02:11:49 1993:

So personal gratification is your purpose to keeping on with your lives?
That is all you are saying?

Think again.

Are you really just following through some routine?

Are you really just working your job so that you can buy food?

Personal gratification is just catering to your feelings.  Do you just
live your life to please yourself?  That would make it the best thing to
steal or work an easy job or mooch all the time so you have more time to
have fun, but you do not do that.


#8 of 87 by robh on Mon May 17 10:30:03 1993:

What is this guy, the Dianetics Commercial Who Walks Like A Man?


#9 of 87 by mta on Mon May 17 18:43:27 1993:

In the end personal gratification is all there is.  Everything else is open to
debate.

No, living to plaese oneself does not mean stealing or mooching to leave
more time to "have fun".  The most fun one can have is to *get paid*
for doing what one loves to do anyway!  And those are often the most 
challenging jobs.  (Who do you know who actually likes standing arround
flipping burgers for hours over a hot greasy grill? It's easy, but it's not
fun and it's not challenging...it's not even a well paid job.)

If you aren't living to please yourself, you're wasting a life.  Your own.


#10 of 87 by tired on Wed May 19 04:00:43 1993:

Never mind the next person then and forget about being nice to people if
you don't enjoy that.  I happen to think I would really enjoy killing a
few people to make sure they can not mess up my pleasure any more.  Thank
you for pointing out that there could be a really good reason to do it.


#11 of 87 by arthur on Wed May 19 14:23:07 1993:

    The purpose of life is to grow, not ephemeral personal
gratification.  Learning and growing is a lot more gratifying
than simply having fun, even though it isn't always pleasant.
You can find activities that give you tremendous joy, and
these are not the usual 'fun' things we're used to doing to
pass time.  They're things that give satisfaction, pride,
maybe even wonder.  


#12 of 87 by carl on Mon May 24 23:41:37 1993:

Tired, have you ever read Scott Peck's _The Road Less Travelled_?

IMHO he paints the nicest picture of what life can be.  It's not
exactly a road map for life, but it can be a starting point for
a dialog.

This is one (of *many*) of my favorite books.  Peck's style may
seem a bit too scholastic, but what he has to say makes it worth
reading.  It's a very encouraging and enlightening book.


#13 of 87 by embu on Thu May 27 17:56:48 1993:

And if you're too tired to do that, just go outside and look at a big tree
and feel happy. If you're being rained on it's even better. 


#14 of 87 by embu on Thu May 27 18:06:50 1993:

perhaps getting a little more sleep might help also...
one thing that I think about is that everything can, and does, change. It's 
pretty neat when you think about it. This, basically, is my "purpose to 
keeping on with (my) life"...I'm interested to see how things are going to
change. Even if you have some kind of boring routine for every day, things
are so different every day anyhow that you can forget about it, or make
up things to change it...hey, life is interesting!!!


#15 of 87 by aahz on Wed Jun 16 20:05:10 1993:

I agree with #3


#16 of 87 by vidar on Sun Jul 4 14:34:09 1993:

My life exists so that I may die a bloody, yet glorious death.
I live to fight, I fight to die.
I die to reach Valhalla.


#17 of 87 by tsty on Mon Jul 5 08:30:01 1993:

I'll let the enemy do all the dying he or she desires .....


#18 of 87 by embu on Mon Jul 5 16:53:15 1993:

why? I'd tend to save them and see if they deserved to die, from their
reaction...


#19 of 87 by vidar on Tue Jul 6 13:22:08 1993:

Woo, as they say, Woo.


#20 of 87 by embu on Tue Jul 6 15:55:27 1993:

oh........


#21 of 87 by vidar on Thu Jul 8 14:05:48 1993:

Of course, once I get to Valhalla, the cycle of fight and die starts all over
again.  Oh well, at least I get to eat roast boar every night.


#22 of 87 by embu on Fri Jul 9 19:02:25 1993:

  you know, from the 1st time I read about Valhalla I thought it was a pretty
pointless place.... amusing, however. Cutting each other apart and then putting
them together again is an interesting idea... but a litle mind-numbing...


#23 of 87 by tsty on Fri Jul 9 19:42:32 1993:

might even hurt a little bit .......


#24 of 87 by embu on Sat Jul 10 06:08:47 1993:

   actually, I got the vague idea that it was pleasurable, so unless
they were *really* into masochism, it shouldn't...:-)


#25 of 87 by vidar on Sun Jul 11 01:49:37 1993:

Ah but what point has pain, when you're gonna get put back together anyway.
The boar may be the same every night, but at least the mead is fresh.  You're
right, getting cut apart by battle-axes and two-handed swords my hurt the first
time, but after a while you get used to it.  Valhalla is actually the only way
war can be fun for all participants.  I wonder what it looked like the day
afterRagnarok?


#26 of 87 by embu on Sun Jul 11 07:16:35 1993:

Hmm. Just that eating, drinkingm and cutting people apart isn't really my
idea of an ideal and meaningfull life.. or death, rather. Whatever..:)


#27 of 87 by mikeroot on Fri Jul 16 20:55:46 1993:

You mean to tell me that your gods can only zap you with axes and swords?
Holy cow, mine come equipped with lasers, photon torpedoes, and the IRS.


#28 of 87 by embu on Sat Jul 17 05:45:43 1993:

  (I'm sorry...)


#29 of 87 by vidar on Sun Jul 25 22:48:43 1993:

Why I ought to bite your bloody head off!  Actually my gods can still use
Mjoelnir to zap us with storms and the like, and even revive things as well as
kill them.  Sad but true, the gods are as mortal to the blade ad you and I. 
And  you, YOU, what in Niflheim do you have to be sorry about?  I spit upon
thee!


#30 of 87 by jasmine on Mon Jul 26 04:19:27 1993:

Excuse ignorant, what gods do you believe in?


#31 of 87 by vidar on Mon Jul 26 14:37:53 1993:

The Norse or rather the Viking Gods.  I also beleive that all other gods and
the respective afterlives co-exist among each other, being the planets in a 
parralel universe.  I find it rather hard to beleive that a single superbeing
created and runs the whole universe.  It seems much more likely that there 
would be more than one.


#32 of 87 by embu on Tue Aug 24 02:32:14 1993:

 just came back from a month away and have lost the flow of conversation, but..
one, why should there be any gods at all (no supernatural beings makes even
more sense than many), and two, I'm sorry you spit on me. :)


#33 of 87 by skeez on Wed Aug 25 14:15:30 1993:

Only Gods this G believes in are RUN-D.M.C. !!!! Down with the King!!!!


#34 of 87 by vidar on Sun Aug 29 14:09:57 1993:

I had a conversation in which the final decission you make is truth for you.
Therefore: I'm going to Valhalla, Sorceria is going to Barneyville (I guess),
Sky's going to South Central LA (Another Guess), and Emma is just going to turn
to dust.  Or something like that.  Of course there's always the chance that we
don't exist.  But that can never be proven, because, once proven, the
conversation didn't exist.


#35 of 87 by skeez on Mon Aug 30 12:30:32 1993:

South Central??? Jeez, That's bad news....


#36 of 87 by skeez on Mon Aug 30 13:31:20 1993:

Waita 
minit.....RUN-D..M.C. are from Queens, My good man. (I'd go to queens)

Don't joke about that "turning to dust/never existing" stuff...Jeez, Vid.
You're getting weird on us....


#37 of 87 by vidar on Mon Aug 30 16:03:07 1993:

Are you implying that I wasn't weird in the first place?  Besides, It's
absolutley Impossible to prove that we don't exist.  Anyway, That's my personal
view on what happens after death to various people.


#38 of 87 by skeez on Tue Aug 31 14:25:39 1993:

That's kinda cold.....I mean, Queens is coo, But Barneyville?? Jazz deserves
much better than that, BJ. And dust? Cold...


#39 of 87 by vidar on Tue Aug 31 16:25:02 1993:

That's it, you little fucker.  No One calls me BJ and lives to tell about it,
with the exception of Ferg.  If I were you I'd pray for Death!


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