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Grex Reality Item 72: Reality VS. Religion
Entered by h90cbf on Sun Sep 30 16:52:53 UTC 2007:

As the title implies; What do you want? You can't possibly have both at
once.

Though your religion might be reality to you spiritually, it will only
be reality in your spirituality. You are strictly speaking the only one
you can talk about your religion with.

When religion is mentioned in the description, does that meen that this
is a place for religious people to give speeches? There is nothing
anyone can possibly discuss about religion, or atleast they wont get
anywhere. Well, ofcourse a guy like me who don't believe in spirits,
Santa, Jesus and the Easter Bunny can tell you how stupid you sound, but
that isn't much of a discussion either.

What I'm trying to say here is that I get mildly frustrated/irritated
when I the words 'reality' and 'religion' in the same line of text.

What is the point?

5 responses total.

#1 of 5 by twenex on Sun Sep 30 17:48:30 2007:

 What I'm trying to say here is that I get mildly frustrated/irritated
 when I the words 'reality' and 'religion' in the same line of text.
 
 What is the point?

More to the point, what's your point? Are you trying to say that because YOU
"get mildly frustrated/irritated when [you read] the words 'reality and
religion' in the same line of text, we shouldn't use them together? If so,
who's your hero - Stalin or the other bloke?

#2 of 5 by cmcgee on Mon Oct 1 19:52:43 2007:

"Though your religion might be reality to you spiritually, it will only
be reality in your spirituality. You are strictly speaking the only one
you can talk about your religion with."

Many of us function in various shared realities.  My family, for
example, shares certain beliefs about what it means to be a member of
the family, and we all behave as if that set of beliefs defines "our
family".  

So we can talk with each other about our family and our beliefs and our
behavior as members of this family.  "We always" and "we never" are
shared realities.  We talk about how well those sentences describe us,
we sometimes make decisions that shift how we view those realities, but
we do share the vision.  

Does your belief that we can't share a reality mean that ours doesn't
exist?  

Similarly, I share a reality with people who believe we share a
religion.  Your declaring that we can't do this has no bearing on our
ability to do so.

#3 of 5 by eprom on Fri Dec 28 01:48:42 2007:

and why is this conf aliased to "math"? shouldn't "math" be linked to the
science.cf???

#4 of 5 by cmcgee on Fri Dec 28 02:04:05 2007:

you're right.  Math has imaginary numbers that are not real.

#5 of 5 by cross on Fri Dec 28 03:43:57 2007:

Not true; imaginary numbers are just as `real' as any other kind of number,
they just obey different axioms.

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