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Grex Reality Item 61: Nihilism anyone?
Entered by keplon9d on Wed Jul 3 05:01:14 UTC 2002:

Does anyone wish to discuss nihilism,Or the works of nietzsche?
I'll Start off the debate with a quote:

"The highest values devaule themselves"--Nietzsch

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#1 of 6 by febag on Wed Jul 3 19:19:57 2002:

Was Nietzsche really a Nihilist? I am not sure about that. I can see Sartre
being one, but Nietzsche seems to have been of a mind that values in
themselves were not bad as long as they are your own values that represent
your own will to power and are not outdated values that you have accepted
unthinkingly from tradition. I think what Nietzsche was referring to above
was the notion that the Christian value on "truth" ultimately causes its
downfall, since it requires ah honest analysis of the faith based on logic
and not merely an automatic acceptance of it. Thus the virtue undermines the
system that gave it force and validity. This is in keeping with his general
dislike of "systems" that bind the man in and make ones slaves to it. 

On a more practical note, i have always been more of nihilist, but Nietzsche
seems to feel that purpose can be created by the individual. Unfortunately,
he didn't really tell us how.

#2 of 6 by fermion on Fri Jul 5 19:43:08 2002:

well, as nost (oh ok all) of everything is transient, the only way real
meaning can be attached to anything at all is if sonething, hopefully me,
can continue to exist indefinetely. immortality is key here if you want
anything to have any lasting significance. That is unless you subscribe to
the notion, as i do, that numbers and other abstracts exist outside the mind.

we'll talk later. 

love,
  Andy

#3 of 6 by keplon9d on Sun Jul 7 06:02:52 2002:

Nihilism subscribes to the notion that nothing exists beyond its face value
in the great scheme of things.this was the subject of many of Nietzsche's
thoughts.Sartre could be fairly be considered an existentialist, altough it's
fuzzy to me what the definition of the movement is, since they're so focused
on declaring themselves antichrist.

#4 of 6 by md on Sun Jul 7 12:29:19 2002:

Somebody said existentialism is less a philosophy than a bad mood.

#5 of 6 by keplon9d on Mon Jul 8 04:49:21 2002:

andy, when you say numbers and other abstracts exist outside the mind, what
exactly do you mean?

#6 of 6 by greycell on Mon Jul 8 15:34:39 2002:

nihilism i used to believe that i am a true nihilist....
during my examinations also i will not study and just sleep .....
but that dose not affect my performance....
so i believe that nihilism is there in everybody...



---->>af1 luv u all

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