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Grex Reality Item 54: on reality
Entered by anxorite on Thu Nov 8 16:42:58 UTC 2001:

To Those it May Concern:

I have been directed to this site, and just glancing upon your 
discussion pieces, I would like to put in a few words in the hopes of 
not offending anyone. I in no way have any fear of being called a fool, 
either =)

Reality: truly an important foundation of thought…that should be 
addressed only for the sake of clarity. It seems to me that a lasting 
philosophical discussion on reality denotes a struggle with near-
sightedness. Back and forth it goes, like the arguments we as children 
liked to get into ”No it isn’t. ‘Yes it is’ ‘I know you, but what am 
I?”…Until someone bludgeons the other in the head, or parental figure 
steps in and chastises us for our annoyance level, or we bore from the 
game, or truly SOMEONE grasps an answer, and we move on. 

Modern philosophers have opened new thoughts: they have opened our eyes 
to scrutinize, and yet have crippled us and taken away our crutches. 
Aristotle, Plato, Socrates, Aquinas…when did they have to grasp the 
earth in frustration and anguish believing that the very 
substance,“such stuff”, could be a projection of their minds and 
nothing more? How awful!  How RIDICULOUS they would say! How many today 
can honestly admit that their daily lives have been affected due to the 
fact that they “have been awakened” to a matrix? Do we not attend our 
daily routine, that many so called coffee-house philosophers are 
obligated to cooperate with for the sake of sustenance and shelter, 
just as many individuals with different temperaments and seritonin 
levels? So MANY have told me that the ancients could not possibly have 
perceived the hoax…has modern man truly been equipped with a sturdier 
mental faculty then previously, or is it a premise we have the habit of 
accepting? 

It seems to me that modernity has simply decided to use one mode of 
reality for another.

We are nearing the Age of Intelligence…why are we so handicapped to 
have to dispute the very foundations of reality? I find today, and C.S. 
Lewis has mentioned this, that many children unfortunately perceive 
subjectivism in all things, objective only in pure science. High school 
drop-outs, modern music, artists, journalists, comedians…in all areas 
of life you will find the most unlikely candidates discussing nihilism 
without being aware of what it is. They respond “Bless you” to the 
utterance of Nietzche. The awareness of subjectivism in our society has 
been assimilated with our developmental learning. “ The waterfall is 
beautiful”. Well, as 6th graders struggling over sentence structure, 
the very object of this sentence is discussed!  “It all depends on how 
you see things.” Which has to do with mind perception. The rest of the 
class is spent where the children are allowed to diagram objects of 
their choice, as long as they diagram correctly. They are told “To make 
this fun, ‘The waterfall is made of Jell-O.’ (giggles)Now class, 
anything is possible…It doesn’t matter. It all depends on how you see 
things. The waterfall could be ugly. The waterfall…”

I have been given grammatical instruction by very poor philosophers!

Truth: The agreement of the mind with reality.

Reality: That Which is really real =) ha ha

Three modes of reality:
Subjective: That which we perceive in or minds: thoughts, questions, 
emotions, etc.
Objective: That which is outside ourselves and is unaffected by the 
mind.
Intentional:  Theories, Discussions…Philosophies, etc. Combination of 
subjective and objective. What we are doing right now!!  

Philosophy (know your etymology!): Study of knowledge:Wisdom ultimately…

Belief: Determination of the mind and will.

Every human being, whether they realize it or not, whether professional 
or your every-day Joe, IS a philosopher. Ontological thought circulates 
without the use of verbose philosophical vocabulary.Everyone desires to 
know and understand.  I am glad this site exists for Reality…but 
hopefully someday our foundation will be sturdy, and Reality 
discussions will be guided meditations for beginners. No more fumbling 
with the foundations. I believe that true philosophers, however, that 
have extensive discussions on reality are like those that are given the 
Book of Truth, and discuss the medium of which the book is written, the 
texture of the bind, the seams, and fail to READ the context.  It 
breaks my heart to see that happen.
 
I am proud to call myself an amateur: I study the world around me out 
of LOVE. Everyone should be an amateur in that sense. Without love of 
your world, there is little reason to understand. So, to the 
philosophers who believe they know and understand a little more each 
day: help our world!!  Making love consists of wrapping our bodies in 
shrink wrap and taking poisons. CHEESE comes in a CAN?!? Self esteem is 
so low girls buy WONDER-BRAS!! It is FASHIONABLE to be atheist. Art 
(etymology: ars “skill”)in our galleries are of CAMBELL’S SOUP LABELS!! 
Government…???…

We have a rather large mess on our hands. I’m trying to pick up the 
broom myself.
Anxorite@hotmail.com

5 responses total.

#1 of 5 by mary on Thu Nov 8 17:30:37 2001:

I hear bells but nobody is at the door.

Sand both is and was.

As we age we worry better.

(Ding)

#2 of 5 by md on Thu Nov 8 23:15:29 2001:

I'm proud to say I have no idea what either of you is talking about.

#3 of 5 by mary on Fri Nov 9 12:42:10 2001:

(Ding)

#4 of 5 by md on Fri Nov 9 14:33:04 2001:

STOP THAT!

#5 of 5 by jimdagem on Thu Jan 31 00:37:31 2002:

Even if the world is a projection of our minds it doesn't make 
everything fake.  Love is still real, emotions are still real.  That 
which is important remains.

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