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Grex Pseudo Item 13: Hidden Identities
Entered by tocohl on Thu Dec 19 22:00:52 UTC 1991:

I think we would probably all agree that pseudos are a lot of fun.  But
how about pseudos that aren't designed for "fun" -- but to hide someone's
identity?  Is that okay on a bbs?

28 responses total.



#1 of 28 by keats on Fri Dec 20 01:28:52 1991:

hide for what purposes? privacy? protection? vindictiveness? other? are
we discussing "spite"? kali? mulberry? ted?


#2 of 28 by remmers on Fri Dec 20 12:32:33 1991:

"Fun" and hiding of one's identity are compatible activities.

If person X posts things anonymously, and these postings result in
an undeserved problem for person Y that would not be a problem for
Y if X posted the same things non-anonymously, then one can fairly
say that X is abusing anonymity.


#3 of 28 by bad on Fri Dec 20 16:50:42 1991:

Or if X uses the pseudo simply to vent hostility, and attack Y, when X
would not do so non-anonymously.
Obnoxiousness without the threat of reprisal is unpleasant.


#4 of 28 by polygon on Sun Dec 22 19:06:49 1991:

What if X uses a pseudo to vent hostility, and attack X?  It would look
pretty silly if done non-anonymously.


#5 of 28 by bad on Mon Dec 23 00:18:29 1991:

If somebody does that, I can't help them.
Self-flagellation is not encouraged.

(now, I coudl see a couple of people here doing so, attacking their "real"
personas, just to create or maintain an image as "injured party"...hmmn...)


#6 of 28 by reach on Mon Dec 23 05:33:22 1991:

Daniel Napolitano created me to cast aspersions on his character.


#7 of 28 by keats on Mon Dec 23 12:11:29 1991:

no, i'd have done a better job, really. <whoosh>.


#8 of 28 by bad on Tue Dec 24 04:48:27 1991:

<whoosh>?


#9 of 28 by keats on Fri Jan 3 04:56:13 1992:

(i was just reaching.)


#10 of 28 by bad on Fri Jan 3 11:24:53 1992:

Hmmn...
More than a little strange.
I knew I shouldn't hang out in this cf.


#11 of 28 by spite on Wed Jan 22 02:33:25 1992:

Are we discussing me? Can I cast aspersions on somebody? Have I?


#12 of 28 by reach on Sun Feb 23 14:26:30 1992:

You have, but they only went so far as you could throw them.


#13 of 28 by spite on Mon Feb 24 04:29:15 1992:

Well, I'm glad you noticed where they landed. Please, be electronically
responsible and recycle them. Even recycled, they're a better product
than your new stuff.


#14 of 28 by alterego on Mon Mar 2 05:08:09 1992:

I can see some real problems arisising from pseudo masks used for libel
or slander.  The Constitution states, in the Sixth Amendment:
[The accused shall enjoy the right]; to be confronted with the witnesses
against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his 
favor,"
How can one defend him/herself against attacks from parties using 
pseudos for damaging statements (substantiated or not) if you can't 
identify them?  Can they be compelled to identify themselves?  Can the
sysop compel someone to confirm their real identity before being allowed
online?


#15 of 28 by remmers on Mon Mar 2 10:20:41 1992:

The passage from the Constitution refers to people formally
accused of crimes by the state, not to private speech.  If
somebody says something derogatory about me, I can't "compel"
people with the opposite opinion to speak in my favor.

Owners of bbs's can, of course, require validation of users if
they want to.  But they don't have to.  And it has nothing to
do with the "rights of the accused".


#16 of 28 by spite on Wed Mar 4 04:07:29 1992:

Can a pseudo slander a pseudo? 


#17 of 28 by bad on Wed Mar 4 04:32:06 1992:

If anyone can, I'll bet you could! :)
I have faith in you, my psuedo...


#18 of 28 by reach on Fri Mar 13 05:58:18 1992:

Faith can be a dangerous thing.


#19 of 28 by spite on Mon May 11 00:19:00 1992:

Not as long as you fall well.


#20 of 28 by reach on Wed May 20 05:30:34 1992:

When I was young, I attended a small catholic high school with a girl 
named Faith. The sisters found this nowhere near as funny as the pupils.
Neither was Faith amused, and she exacted revenge (for teasing) at every 
opportunity. She particularly reveled in convincing other girls that they
were going to hell, no matter what.


#21 of 28 by spite on Thu Jun 18 18:40:51 1992:

Did they?


#22 of 28 by reach on Fri Jun 19 14:04:50 1992:

Go look.


#23 of 28 by spite on Fri Jan 29 03:09:47 1993:

I called.  They said they'd been looking for you because you'd been
away quite a while.

They asked you to pick up some milk on the way home.


#24 of 28 by wish on Mon Jan 10 06:42:14 1994:

Don't milk me! =)


#25 of 28 by skeez on Thu Jan 13 00:35:00 1994:

There are too many 12-13 little boys on m-net and grex who feel the need to
create pseudos and cause trouble with them. I can usually spot them. when 
I do confront them, the majority of the time the fool will deny it. pitiful.


#26 of 28 by remmers on Thu Jan 13 07:41:05 1994:

I deny it.


#27 of 28 by wish on Sun Jan 16 06:46:52 1994:

he too!


#28 of 28 by vidar on Mon Jan 17 21:27:19 1994:

Da Uff

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