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Mexican Surrounded by children No hablo ingles I am not. Shabby Vanilla refuse Unschooled I am not. Can't tell by looking, can you? I have a paper that says "B.A." in my pocket. I was feeling very poor before I actually became it; my heart was bankrupt before my usury. Spare me the prejudice; and spare me the lecture. You have no idea.
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I don't normally comment on content but... This is ironic. The first two stanzas are pure prejudice, then in the fourth stanza, you say, "Spare me the prejudice." I presume you're not talking to yourself, but maybe you should be.
It sounds like it came out of an encounter. Whatever, the title is hilarious.
Paul, Russ is correct. Try reading it again. The "pure prejudice" is based on a variety of comments I've heard from people, but a recent one just took the cake. I went to a local U-Bake pizza chain and paid with my EBT card. The cashier and I got into a small conversation in which I commented that I thought EBT cards were less embarassing. It ended on the note that it was her opinion that people on food stamps tended to just make babies. I was somewhat offended as I have only one. The slam might have been directed towards white folk, but it more smacked of "Mexican."
"The slam MIGHT HAVE BEEN directed towards white folk, but it more smaked of 'Mexican'." So she didn't say, "Those filthy burrito-eaters and their baby machines," but you HEARD that. You filled in a racial slur where one didn't overtly exist, and you deny being prejudiced? I stand by my comments in #1. You're a bigot.
I do freely admit my prejudices-- even when they run ironic. Psychologically, everyone has prejudices, however, under certain definitions. So, technically, so do you. I nevertheless apologize. btw, over here, it would be "those filthy beaners and their prego women." Mighty acrid tongue we have today, don't we? Where the HELL do you get off determining what I am or am not saying in a creative work? If it were prose, and a more of a declarative statement, I would understand. I still apologize, and again, I've said, "Yeah, I'm probably wrong," but you've REALLY pissed me off. Who died and made you a diety on what's moral, hmmm? So I have prejudices with white trash and some migrants (but most of the people I do see every day are white), but good grief, YOU KNOW MY POETRY IS CATHARTIC! If you can't accept me, faults and all, you should just piss off. And why should I be so mad? Because, Paul, I sincerely believe you are better than that.
btw, I have tried to get some activity going on poetry again. Poor Robert Lawson, he's been gone for so long, that when he posted some stuff, he didn't know what was going on and thought we hated him or thought his poetry sucked. So I gave a little feedback. I also thought posting a poem of my own would help. Where have you been, Paul? Why don't you either start making constructive critique, post your own poetry, or SHUT THE HELL UP. You can so be above the personal attacks you just made.
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I find it terribly ironic that what looks to me like Jon's experience with prejudice aimed at *him*, brighn judges as Jon's prejudice. If so, it proves that brighn has bought into the mind-set of white liberal guilt.
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Forget I said anything. FWIW, Russ, you're wrong, but I shouldn't have said anything in the first place.
My point is that we don't have a transcript of Jon's experience with the cashier, and using the word "bigot" indicates prejudice.
I've seen Jon though, albeit, it was only once and years ago, he was white, and apparantly male, and judgeing from Julie, hes at least partially heterosexual... that means he HAS to be a racist asshole. I mean, isn't that the rule of thumb? **If anyone takes this comment at face value they will be beaten with trout**
You didn't have to do all this just on my account! I do like the poem. I must say, however much as it pains me to do so, I agree with Paul to a point. That is to say, we are all prejudiced to some degree. Being black and raised by the white side of my family, I can say that I have prejudices on both sides of my race line. While this "grey" racism is not all together pleasant, it is a part of who I am and I have to deal with that, adjust and hopefully grow into a less-racist human being. I can discuss it rationaly; maybe some of you cannot. And yes, the poem hints at some racism on the poet's part. But he expressed how he felt, reactionary to a negative experience, quite well. I might suggest adding a little more substance however to the last stanza. Now I am quite sure I have given reason for both sides to hate me, and now I don't feel so bad!! :) Toodles.
More proof that the Internet is rather color-blind. I wouldn't have guessed. Thanks, Robert, I'll mull it over and see what improvement I might make.
Addition to last stanza: You see, I once thought as you do. Then I had to start walking where these people do. I've got a white trashy friend. Very well educated, though. Oh, wait-- should I make an exception because he's an LDS Jew? And not long ago, I was eating humble pie working out in the fields with brown-skinned laborers. I didn't last two days, though. *sigh* and I doubt they are taking jobs away. Wait at least until you've been there.
kickass. yeah. question, tho': LDS? forgive me if the answer is right in front of my face, but it's been a long day and i am sleepy.
Latter-Day Saint (i.e., Mormon)
well at least i don't feel stupid, as i wouldn't have figured that one out regardless of rest. =)
re resp 13: but you're so *worth* our argumentativeness! (is that a word? oh well, we're in poetry.)
agreed.
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