This is the item in which to speculate what would happen an a game universe
if one or more certain specific historical events did not occur.
For example, Battletech: What if Kerensky never left the Inner Sphere?
AD&D< Spelljammer: What if the elves lost the Unhuman wars?
Storyteller, Werewolf: What if the War of Rage and the Impergium never
happened?
All opinions welcome.

36 responses total.

<kain has never played any of these so he will not comment>
<MAN! I wanted to be first

Orinoco, I can't read #1...

That's ok, starwolf, I couldn't write it...

I play whitewolf games, if the war of rage never occured it would be amazingly
boring. I can't remember the arcanum right now but I'll take your word that
it was importent.  Another thing what if the Garou were right and the real
world and umbra were once one, if that never split then that would be one
seriously screwed up (But fun!) world.

What if....


        TSR had kept its brain and left the game world simple?
        Would we then be able to not be suffocated with
        tons of stupid supplementary books and "how to be
        an orc" reference materials?  
        Would we be free, indeed?

if only.
I don't know, there is an advantage to all the supplements.  After all, they
have already been thoroughly tested, making it easier for a DM to add new
things to their campaign without worrying about disturbing the power balance
too much.  I personally would rather play without them, and make such additions
myself--remember, a DM doesn't HAVE to use the supplements.  You can be as
free as you make yourself--just ingore all the "stupid supplementary books"
and make your own rules

Precisely!  It seems that Rune Master has forgotten that the GM/DM is God
in whatever game is being played.

The only Rules Supplement books for AD&D that I have found totally useless
are the Historical Reference books. If I wanted to play in Ancient Earth,
I'd play Ars Magica!

They're not entirely useless when one is running Planescape.  A Trollborn
on Earth isn't nearly as disturbing as a Plane wandering Trollborn.  Rune
Magick is a good addition to AD&D magick systems, too, especially since
Runecasters are Sub-class of Warrior.

I haven't "forgotten" that the DM is the ultimate law - I am
making the point that if TSR had kept the game simple
(K.I.S.S. law was avoided!), and not try to be money-whores,
they'd have the old awe and respect they used to have.

In short, mine was a "what if" bash against TSR.

That is economically unreasonable.  People do things for money.
It is the fault of the world.  Money is the root of all evil.
The game is simple, if you decide *not* to allow sourcebook
characters.

Then players who have the sourcebooks will bitch at the iron-fisted DM's lack
of options. (!SEt Drift = OFF)

If people didn't want the sourcebooks, TSR wouldn't make them.

lack of options, my ass!
You can play a bard without the complete bard's handbook...in fact, with a
DM interested in an interesting game, not the rules, you could make a 
character that suited your idea better than any from the complete bard's

We're getting a bit off the subject here....

re #12
AMEN!
The subject suits me just fine, lets keep going!

<orinoco uses tyranid bio-technology to weave a protective warp shield around
the topic>

Obsess much?
<Eldrich sighs>

RE #17
Keep going where?

sorry eld...I had to...
why, to the abyss in a handbasket, setzer!

Don't worry, I don't understand him much either.

you've never heard the phrase, "going to hell in a handbasket?"

Inat Basket took a left turn at Gehenna.

isn't it albequrque?

What woulda happened if WotC never made Magic?

        (okay, kill me now, I forgot that you all get really nasty when the
        "M" word is mentioned...)

Bliss?
Let's refrase that. What if WotC HAD made magic but it stayed small and U
didn't have three year olds playing.

<Went to Acheron>

if it had satyed small, I would still be playing, and it would be a lot more
enjoyable for all.  

"technology" isn't based on the helm but on the utilization of certain
naturally-occuring magical stones for power.  These stones also make
ship-board energy-based weapons possible, and permit the forging of strong
metals possible (stones are too large to permit portable weapons smaller than
a Howitzer). Tow main factions rule theis extremely large sphere, a nation
of Elves (not a part of the Imperial Fleet) and a nation of Humans.  THe Elven
nation has recently made contact with elves frorm other spheres, and has
learned of the atrocities committed by humans on forested lands of other
worlds, and this plus the assasination of the Elven Crown Prince by a human
has led the Elven govt. to attemt genocide on the Humans.

????

I'm not sure, but I think he's talking Spelljammer.

Stupid Pico editro denied the existence of my 1st line of text.  Yes, it's
spelljammer.

Seams nice. Have U had first hand exsperence w/ it?

slik

Re #34: exp. with that scenario or Spelljammer?

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