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Grex Oathbound Item 38: Men...Men....Men.....?????
Entered by sun on Thu Aug 31 20:02:13 UTC 1995:

                We Love 'em....we hate em....But Why?

                What is it about certian guys that we just can't
                get enough of?

                And what about those Celebrities?  Those hot guys
                that you KNOW you will never meet, but you think they are 
                cute, or wonderful anyway?

                Ladies?  What IS it about these men????

139 responses total.



#1 of 139 by birdlady on Thu Aug 31 20:16:46 1995:

Oh...don't *even* get me started...  <g>


#2 of 139 by flem on Thu Aug 31 23:03:44 1995:

I don't know.  Some men are cool, but for the most part, men seem to be
socially inferior to women.


#3 of 139 by adania on Thu Aug 31 23:30:42 1995:

Sex is the main factor here, I think...isn't that why we cannot get enough of
them? It is certainly sex appeal with regards to those celebrities, and even
those guys that are within reach, but so gorgeous that they are intimidating...


#4 of 139 by jazz on Fri Sep 1 01:02:44 1995:

 
        I remember a notorious ladies' man who, when I was trying to be social,
told me not to worry about it ... he'd found that men aren't as interesting
- in a social or emotional sense - as women are.  I didn't agree, though I
saw the trends his beliefs had come from, and could sympathize.  I'm pretty
sure I won the debate - we talked for two hours.


#5 of 139 by flem on Fri Sep 1 03:43:17 1995:

You think that men are more interesting socially and emotionally than
women are?  Hmm.  Sounds like a topic worth a good argument.  
<flem rolls up his sleeves>


#6 of 139 by morgayn on Fri Sep 1 14:37:15 1995:

Hey...wait....this item...oh bother...
Anyhow, I agree with adania....sex appeal is a factor.
But I also think that eyes hold a lot of weight.
If I look in a man's eyes and see nothing, I can't find myself attracted to
him or even wanting to be in his presence.
A human soul so empty that their eyes give it away frightens me.
*shrug*


#7 of 139 by flem on Fri Sep 1 16:16:03 1995:

Yes, I think eyes are very nice.  I've never found sex appeal to be all 
that big of a deal, unless they were also quite nice.  (I am, of course,
 (well, not of course, but I am anyways) referring to females, not males, 
but I was under the impression that this item was directed more at the 
opposite sex, rather than at just males.  If I'm wrong, sue me. :)


#8 of 139 by birdlady on Fri Sep 1 22:25:25 1995:

I *love* eyes, but I am directly, I mean *directly as in magnetic pull*
attracted to a man with a great sense of humor.  If someone can get me rolling
on the floor, laughing so hard that tears are rolling down my face, then he
is an *immediate* candidate for a night out with birdy!  =)  I also like guys
who can babble as much as I can...I hate awkward silences, and it's easier
to get to know a person if they love to talk!


#9 of 139 by kerouac on Sat Sep 2 01:28:15 1995:

  It seems like women are heavily influenced by physical characteristics, 
much as men are.  Thats why guys like Fabio, and Lucky Vanous (the guy from th
e Diet coke commercials) and Antionio Banderas
make the big money.  We men dont stand a chance unless we have
muscular torsos, flat stomachs and tight butts *sigh*
  Some sexists (not me) believe women are less inclined to look at
personality and inner characteristics in men than men do in women.
Antonio Banderas could have an IQ of 40 and still get most women.


#10 of 139 by morgayn on Sat Sep 2 14:38:40 1995:

  Hmmm....well, I don't think physical characteristics are the ultimate, but
I also do not consider eyes a physical characteristic. It's not just the
color, it's the way they use them, the way they express themselves with their
eyes. It tells a lot about a person.
   Honestly, Kerouac, if I had teh chance to be with any of the men you
mentioned, I would choose not to be. They don't interest me. *shrug*
   If we would like to switch gears....characteristics I like in a man...
I like a man who is responsive to me. Someone who will understand and accept
that no means no, whatever the reason I say no. Someone who will listen to me
whine about the world and will in turn whine about the world. Someone who can
teach me something. Someone with direction. Someone who is himself.
 I don't want some empty body with no soul inside.


#11 of 139 by jazz on Sat Sep 2 15:18:28 1995:

 
        "Are you strong enough to be my man ... ?" 
         
        (Good song; it's about as honest as I've heard in songs)
 
        A friend of mine one asked me if I could name the one characteristic
that I found most attractive ... and after thinking for a minute ... I had
to say "the ability to inspire".  


#12 of 139 by morgayn on Sun Sep 3 15:29:37 1995:

That's a rather interesting thought, Jazz...
I think I'd agree with you on it...
I need someone who can stimulate me. Someone who is always willing to try new
things. Someone who understands the art of inspiration. Someone who actually
realizes that inspiration is an art in of itself. :)


#13 of 139 by adania on Sun Sep 3 17:58:33 1995:

Guys in movies are jsut to look at.  I wouldn't want to ever do anything with e
then really. Real people are much more fun!


#14 of 139 by jazz on Sun Sep 3 18:00:02 1995:

 
        For me, someone's ability to inspire is closely ties with their ability
to live artistically ... it's hard to explain and I've had to :em this
response a few times to get it right ... but there are some people, just to
see them, or to talk to them, it's like waking up, and things feared become
laughable imps, and impossible tasks possible.

        Thanks, anyways. :)


#15 of 139 by flem on Mon Sep 4 02:37:48 1995:

True.  I think it has to do with willing to try something crazy every once
in a while, just for the hell of it.  I've only ever found one person who 
was willing to do more crazy things for no reason at all than I was, and 
he has been my best friend for going on four years.


#16 of 139 by arrow on Mon Sep 4 14:44:00 1995:

        Umm...  Yeah...

 --`,-<@ [The BlackRose]


#17 of 139 by morgayn on Mon Sep 4 23:19:42 1995:

*shrug* I think inspiration is something we all have and everyone believes in.


#18 of 139 by jazz on Sat Sep 9 10:23:12 1995:

 
        I'd agree that's something everyone has ... but not everyone has
the same amount ... or makes the same uses of it ...


#19 of 139 by arrow on Sat Sep 9 23:02:28 1995:

I have no idea if I have inspiration or not. <G> Go figure/

 --liftw


#20 of 139 by adania on Tue Sep 12 01:42:20 1995:

I am inspired!
What does liftw mean?


#21 of 139 by arrow on Wed Sep 13 14:01:56 1995:

I forgot. ;)

 --sih


#22 of 139 by adania on Sun Sep 17 15:49:02 1995:

how about sih, then?  what does that mean?
<mrowr>


#23 of 139 by val on Sun Sep 17 17:18:30 1995:

Every time I see that <sih,i mean>  I think of slug in heat
But I'm weird  :)



#24 of 139 by sun on Sun Sep 17 18:56:01 1995:

No comment...:)


#25 of 139 by anne on Mon Sep 18 20:22:30 1995:

Yes Val, we knew that. ;)



#26 of 139 by sun on Mon Sep 18 23:05:51 1995:

heh...


#27 of 139 by morgayn on Wed Sep 20 13:26:42 1995:

*rotfl* Slug in heat? Oh my goodness...
Actually,  I always thought of Silver is Happy.
Ummm...I agree, jazz...people do not possess inspiration in the same amounts,
nor do they use it the same way. Part of being human, I suppose, those little
differences. :)


#28 of 139 by arrow on Thu Sep 21 22:13:32 1995:

Ok ok, it ment Silver is Hot.

-timex


#29 of 139 by morgayn on Wed Sep 27 03:02:52 1995:

Am I good or what?


#30 of 139 by anne on Wed Sep 27 03:25:16 1995:

ooh baby, you're the best. ;)



#31 of 139 by arrow on Thu Sep 28 12:08:49 1995:

Well Morgayn, I must be better sense I have always said you 
were good.. 
I'm so cool....NOT

-TOII


#32 of 139 by morgayn on Sun Oct 1 01:23:36 1995:

Oh no, what has this drifted into?
*Morgaene hides*


#33 of 139 by arrow on Sun Oct 1 18:07:06 1995:

[set drift off]

Men suck, they use and abuse..mostly..they are a greedy breed of selfish
ignorent babys with no sence of what the woman needs, or would need..or 
would like..

Any and meny men have told me..well, I'm not like that..NOT..yes you are.

[this from a guys eye that cares..but I am a 'man' so I suck too. :)

-BGH


#34 of 139 by val on Sun Oct 1 22:29:05 1995:

Actually I cannot generalize about men.  Some are evil, some are not
Just like women  <shrig>



#35 of 139 by morgayn on Tue Oct 3 13:49:20 1995:

I think that should be a new party noise.....shrig
Anyhow, I think people are people, you cannot generalize them based on their
gender. I also think most people don't suck all the time, just under some
circumstances.
   I have been treated poorly by a great lot of men, but you know, who cares..
as long as the one I pick out to spend the rest of my life with is different.
*shrig*


#36 of 139 by adania on Fri Oct 6 01:00:01 1995:

Not to drift or anything, but, arrow, what is TOII and what is BGH?


#37 of 139 by jazz on Tue Oct 10 18:01:15 1995:

        I keep thinking of this commercial ... "all I want is a man with a ...
SOUL!"  I can see that.  I've seen a fair number of women who seem to lack
a soul, and a fairly greater number of men.  It could have something to do
with my gender, but, given that many of those number are bisexual or gay, I
would tend to doubt that.  I believe it has something to do with society's
standards for men, but I could be wrong there, too.


#38 of 139 by morgayn on Mon Oct 16 21:00:12 1995:

   I don't think it has to do with gender. I just think it has to do with
what one puts into their head. What one wakes up thinking, what one thinks
about when they're looking at me, what one thinks about when they look at
themselves in the mirror...


#39 of 139 by clees on Tue Oct 17 17:45:57 1995:

On the other hand, these are confusing times for men.
Me, being the result of the emancipation process (dunno whether that's
correct, or not, but anyway..) back in the seventies, I've always tried 
to deal with women as my equals and be sensitive about things.
In other words, I tried to be an emancipated man.
Then, in all kinds of women's mags I read that there's nothing
wrong with machismo. (My ex showed me, and asked me why I
wasn't a real man) Can you imagine my confusion?
Also I should say that I am not standard for the average Dutch male.
So, where are we now, these days?
All I can do is try to be myself, which is not macho.
<sigh>


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