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The finalists for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame class of 2008 have been announced. Appearing on the ballot this year: The Dave Clark Five The Beastie Boys Chic John Mellencamp Madonna The Ventures Afrika Bambaataa Leonard Cohen Donna Summer So who would you vote in?
26 responses total.
Is there a spot on the ballot for "None of the Above"? There are acts on that list I like, but I don't think of them as critically important to the development of Rock and Roll. Leonard Cohen, for example, is a great songwriter, but is he even a rock and roll artist? Would rock have been different had he just remained a poet and not gone into music? Of the acts above, Madonna has probably had the highest profile career and the most obvious superficial effect on popular music.
This is certainly an interesting group of nominees this year, encompassing a lot of different styles. My choices would be: Madonna-- For obvious reasons, although I think she's become a bit insufferable in recent years. She is the top female pop star of the last twenty five years and will certainly get in and be the first U of M student (not graduate, she dropped out) to be a hall of famer. Beastie Boys-- Well you have to vote for the Beasties, they are lords of hip hop-risy. Many hip hop artists learned what they do from listening to Beastie Boy Albums. John Mellencamp-- An old favorite of mine, at least since he stopped calling himself Johnny Cougar and writing his own songs. He just wrote a new song about the Jena 6 called "Jena, take your nooses down", and now the mayor of Jena, La. wants to put a noose around Mellencamp's neck. Induct him so he can sing that song at the ceremony! Leonard Cohen-- Another old favorite who deserves to go in for the quality of his career and how influential he has been. Thats it. I can't make a case for Donna Summer, and the Ventures were just another overrated sixties instrumental group. Afrika Baabaambataa I regard as more succesful as a producer than performer. Its not the year for him. As for Chic, forget it. Disco is dead. The last thing I want is to hear them singing "dance dance dance" again.
Oh and I left out the Dave Clark Five, but I wouldn't vote for them either. They were better than the Ventures but still, there are enough mediocre fifties and sixties pop groups in already.
Does anyone even agree on what the criteria for admittance should be?
re #4 criteria, according to the rr hall of fame website, includes the quality of the artist's music, importance of artist and work, and signficance/influence of the artist and his/her music on the rock and roll industry.
you think the Dave Clark Five were non influential? I think they were very influential.
as do i ... dave clark 5 leonard cohen the ventures ... no one elase from taht liast.
Based on the criteria, I suppose you could argue Donna Summers had a great influence, since disco led to the anti-disco trend among certain rockers. I'd agree with the earlier post, though, that Cohen really influenced rock very little.
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disco forever!!!!
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>Madonna...'s become a bit >insufferable in recent years. Madonna has been a bit insufferable since the beginning. >the Ventures were >just another overrated sixties instrumental group. The Ventures are the best selling instrumental rock group of all time (which might not be saying much), and were influential to many a guitarist.
beasties boys and leonard cohen ya he rocks it.
I'm surprised Madonna isn't in yet.
This is probably the first year she's eligible. Eligibility depends on the year of the person or band's first recording.
I think it's 20 or 25 years after the first recording, off the top of my head. One would presume that eventually the Hall of Fame would turn into some sort of "pop music hall of fame," because their 20- or 25-year horizon is rapidly approaching the point where rock music collapsed. :) It's not like baseball, which keeps minting new stars every year.
If Madonna is nominated, it's already gone down the pop road. We still have a bunch of grunge era bands that are deserving, so I wouldn't say all hope is lost.
Heck, it took forever to get Black Sabbath in - it's not like the R&R HoF is the barometer of what is really good....
The Beatles are in aren't they? And they're not R&R? Or am I hopelessly ignorant of musical genres. I didn't know about the time requirement to get into the HofF.
I don't believe in contests and awards. They are often given to someone for reasons that have nothing to do with their actually earning the award (such as for their race or their boob job).
like the trimspa challenge?
Gee, how long did it take you to figure that one out, genius?
heh
Afrika Bambaataa started a whole genre. And he set a benchmark. He should be in. I should be in too.
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This is one of those rare occurrences where I totally agree with the author of #1
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