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Grex Mnet Item 52: Announcements item
Entered by pony on Wed Jul 5 17:55:09 UTC 2000:

Well, granted, most of the items in this cf are announcement items, for once
I have my own announcement to enter.

So here is an announcements item.

--tcith

62 responses total.



#1 of 62 by vous on Wed Jul 5 17:55:38 2000:

fuck the limeys.


#2 of 62 by pony on Wed Jul 5 17:56:09 2000:

I would like to anounce that this morning I passed 70-081 Implementing and
Supporting Microsoft Exchange Server 5.5.

--tcith


#3 of 62 by jerryr on Wed Jul 5 17:59:44 2000:

you gop!


#4 of 62 by jor on Wed Jul 5 18:05:20 2000:

        Microsoft Sexchange


#5 of 62 by tod on Wed Jul 5 18:17:37 2000:

Ali, wnat a job?


#6 of 62 by twinkie on Wed Jul 5 20:48:31 2000:

I would like to announce that I've been an Exchange admin for the past couple
months, and I've never even seen 70-081 :-P



#7 of 62 by mdw on Wed Jul 5 20:51:23 2000:

Isn't the correct answer to Microsoft Exchange "no"?  Surely a complete
course isn't necessary for this?


#8 of 62 by twinkie on Wed Jul 5 21:02:30 2000:

You're confusing Exchange with Lotus Notes.

And with Lotus, you do need a complete course so that you can back up your
statement every time you have to say "No. It can't do that."



#9 of 62 by jerome on Wed Jul 5 21:34:43 2000:

VMS Mail.  You read; you send.  You receive; you transmit.  No virii.


#10 of 62 by jp2 on Wed Jul 5 21:59:30 2000:

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#11 of 62 by mdw on Thu Jul 6 00:01:57 2000:

Oh, I don't think I'm confusing exchange with lotus notes.  This *is*
the mail software that eats machines for breakfast and wants more?  The
one that needs a full-time person to baby-sit it just to keep it from
self-destructing? The one where security was so much of an after-thought
that the anti-virus "fixes" cripple it?


#12 of 62 by jp2 on Thu Jul 6 02:09:56 2000:

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#13 of 62 by twinkie on Thu Jul 6 03:02:22 2000:

re: 11 -- No, that's Lotus Notes. A properly-built Exchange server will run
for months, with little intervention. And as long as you update your virus
defs (which do not cripple the server), it's all good.

The security issues are problems with Outlook, not Exchange Server.



#14 of 62 by jp2 on Thu Jul 6 03:12:10 2000:

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#15 of 62 by twinkie on Thu Jul 6 03:54:22 2000:

Because it was not built properly.

Why is it the Exchange server I built at work hasn't been rebooted in a month,
and is faster than greased shit?



#16 of 62 by buzzard on Thu Jul 6 13:31:58 2000:

Greased shit?!?!?!



I'm using Exchange here at work right now and it's kinda like greased shit
too... er, wait... I meant greasy shit.



#17 of 62 by jor on Thu Jul 6 14:11:28 2000:

        I miss VMS mail.


#18 of 62 by jerome on Thu Jul 6 14:31:37 2000:

Me, too.  Elegance by simplicity.  Do one thing and do it well.


#19 of 62 by violator on Thu Jul 6 16:44:55 2000:

i have to use lotus notes at work.  and at times i am VERY frustrated 
with it. uuf!


#20 of 62 by jep on Thu Jul 6 16:56:50 2000:

We use Lotus Notes, and I am always frustrated with it.

We're going to be switching to MS Outlook in the near future.  I expect 
not to like that a lot more, but at least the user interface is not 
designed specifically to prevent the sending, receiving and storing of 
e-mail.  It's designed, instead, to encourage the spread of 
system-destroying viruses.  

This, at a company that sometimes sends one-line text messages as MS 
Word attachments.  A company which daily sends links to an internal WWW 
site, from which you read MS Word attachments that are 1-5 screen text 
messages.  (Psst!  Guys!  Just send the text, right in the body of the 
e-mail!)


#21 of 62 by ric on Thu Jul 6 17:05:12 2000:

One of my coworkers, who is a certified lotus notes administrator (that's not
what she's doing now) says that John is correct.

Lotis Notes is specifically designed to prevent the sending, receiving and
storing of email.


#22 of 62 by jep on Thu Jul 6 17:09:39 2000:

Why did you have to ask, Rick?  You know I never exaggerate.  
Exaggeration is the worst possible thing anyone can ever do.  Everyone 
who ever exaggerates, about anything, should be shot, carved into little 
bits, ground up, and then flushed down the garbage disposal.


#23 of 62 by happyboy on Thu Jul 6 17:31:37 2000:

and then the garbage disposal should be incinerated
by an ATOMIC BOMB!


#24 of 62 by jerryr on Thu Jul 6 17:33:28 2000:

only after you strap a couple of young orphans to it 


#25 of 62 by happyboy on Thu Jul 6 17:40:18 2000:

and gay baby harp seals


#26 of 62 by jerome on Thu Jul 6 18:16:20 2000:

for JESUS!!!


#27 of 62 by jerryr on Thu Jul 6 18:59:31 2000:

don't forget to make 'em cripples


#28 of 62 by tsty on Fri Jul 7 13:15:07 2000:

and the exchange server i help administer works JustFine (tm) for a
long time also .. months and months .. and all through the 'ifuckyou'
virus attack (didn't have to shut it down either .. bwaaaaaaaaa!)
  
actually, hasn't needed/wanted a reboot since before january 2000.


#29 of 62 by jep on Fri Jul 7 15:26:56 2000:

M-Net is up again.  Yay!


#30 of 62 by tpryan on Fri Jul 7 15:55:53 2000:

        How do you dial into M-net again, I think I forgot.


#31 of 62 by slynne on Fri Jul 7 16:21:01 2000:

resp:29 - LIAR!!! I just tried it and it is still down. 

Man am I a sucker or what? sheesh


#32 of 62 by iggy on Fri Jul 7 17:01:31 2000:

yeah, jerryr suckered me into trying mnet too.

i wouldnt mind being on mnet early, except i cant offer any technical
bug help.


#33 of 62 by jerryr on Fri Jul 7 17:17:45 2000:

m-nut is up fo a select list of beta testers.  sorry if you aren't on that
list, i had nothing to do with it.   note to void and slynne:  the july.cf
is good to go.


#34 of 62 by jep on Fri Jul 7 18:01:15 2000:

I didn't discuss being a beta tester with anyone.  I just logged in via 
telnet this morning.  The WWW is still down, and I don't know about the 
dialouts, but telnet has been working all day.


#35 of 62 by jerryr on Fri Jul 7 20:04:01 2000:

you are one of the chosen few, john.  it was bestowed on ya, no one asked for
it.  well, not true, i was asked to set up the july.cf and see if it went
smoothly.

for those of you not able to log on - it's very quiet and a little buggy yet,
so i wouldn't feel all that left out.


#36 of 62 by vous on Fri Jul 7 21:08:54 2000:

it's because YOU'RE SO DAMNED COOL


#37 of 62 by tpryan on Fri Jul 7 22:52:35 2000:

        Oh, okay then.  I hope someone beta-tests the dialins then.


#38 of 62 by jep on Sat Jul 8 16:32:59 2000:

Oh.  Well, sorry I mentioned it here, then.  I thought the messages I 
was seeing were old and that the beta testing was done.


#39 of 62 by trex on Sat Jul 8 16:45:00 2000:

nope.  I won't be leaving old messages.  I think everyone I've seen in this
item is "on the list" except igbor, whom I'm gonna add in a sec.


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