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Grex Mnet Item 34: I want my own country
Entered by jp2 on Mon Jun 5 03:35:07 UTC 2000:

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#1 of 28 by void on Mon Jun 5 04:15:36 2000:

   buy an oil platform.  live on it.  hold a foreign dignitary hostage
when that country's army tyries to pry you off of it.  sell passports,
stamps, and coins to make money.

   btw, the office of the u.s. geographer logs all secession claims
within u.s. borders.


#2 of 28 by jmsaul on Mon Jun 5 05:19:29 2000:

The guy who's doing HavenCo used to log in to M-Net.  Used to be pretty
active back in the late 80s.


#3 of 28 by lelande on Tue Jun 6 06:18:08 2000:

achieve sovereignty for yourself.
it's a start.
then get a big boat.


#4 of 28 by jmsaul on Tue Jun 6 13:33:08 2000:

It's much harder to achieve sovereignty now than it used to be.

I wonder if M-Net should get a mirror site on Sealand.  I bet Sean would
do it for us.


#5 of 28 by jp2 on Tue Jun 6 17:15:13 2000:

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#6 of 28 by scott on Tue Jun 6 20:57:32 2000:

Well, if you're having trouble getting to Livonia, I doubt putting mnet off
the coast of Britain will help much... ;)


#7 of 28 by don on Tue Jun 6 21:25:45 2000:

re 1; how do you know the geographer's office register's seccession claims?
It's not like you can call up city hall and ask how you can secede. On the
unlikely chance that they would take you seriously, the FBI would be on your
ass in minutes.


#8 of 28 by jmsaul on Tue Jun 6 21:55:41 2000:

Re #6:  On the other hand, HavenCo has good security and new machines.


#9 of 28 by krj on Tue Jun 6 21:57:30 2000:

The staff could sail there on the M-net Yacht "Patron Fees" to make 
the required service calls.


#10 of 28 by drew on Tue Jun 6 22:28:08 2000:

I thought the _Patron Fees_ disappeared over the edge of the world?


#11 of 28 by cyklone on Tue Jun 6 22:41:34 2000:

The sea monsters coughed it up after we promised them some old
motherboards and an ISDN modem. 



#12 of 28 by void on Tue Jun 6 23:28:14 2000:

   re #7: they can be looked up.


#13 of 28 by don on Wed Jun 7 00:14:22 2000:

In what?


#14 of 28 by tod on Wed Jun 7 14:35:50 2000:

Leviathan thanks Arbornet for the ISDN modem, btw.


#15 of 28 by slynne on Sat Jun 24 14:35:41 2000:

I was just reading about Havenco on the internet. I hadnt realized it was such
a big deal. The only thing I can say is that the whole thing is very Sean.
I guess a lot of people are trying to get his sister to put them in contact
with him. Very weird. 


#16 of 28 by jmsaul on Sat Jun 24 14:46:45 2000:

Too funny.  It's not like Havenco is hard to find -- they have their own
website and stuff.


#17 of 28 by slynne on Sat Jun 24 14:55:18 2000:

I have never had any trouble getting in touch with him. In fact, sometimes
I have had the opposite problem *snort* ;)

Joe knows why I find this whole thing very weird. Actually, I find it totally
funny although I am not sure why. I keep laughing everytime I hear about it.


#18 of 28 by jmsaul on Sat Jun 24 15:16:03 2000:

I agree.  It is pretty funny.


#19 of 28 by goose on Sat Jun 24 17:21:08 2000:

What's the untold story here?


#20 of 28 by jmsaul on Sat Jun 24 17:26:15 2000:

I'm not sure what Lynne means, if there's a specific unknown story, but she
used to date Sean, so she knew him quite well.  He and I used to hang around
a lot too.  If you know him, the idea of him going off and doing something
like this is just, well, too perfect.  I mean, if I had to pick someone I knew
as "most likely to found a data haven on an offshore artillery platform with
claims to national independence," it would have been Sean hands down.


#21 of 28 by slynne on Sat Jun 24 22:35:37 2000:

Oh yeah, Joe is totally right on about that. This whole thing is *crazy* and
yet it is so in character for Sean to be involved with something like this.
I just think it is funny that it is getting so much media attention. 


#22 of 28 by jmsaul on Sat Jun 24 22:41:58 2000:

Of course, the other thing about Sean is that, most of the time, he actually
gets away with stuff.  He's no idiot, and he has a lot of friends who aren't
idiots either.


#23 of 28 by krokus on Sun Jul 16 17:48:13 2000:

What was his login on M-net?


#24 of 28 by jmsaul on Mon Jul 31 15:33:16 2000:

First kzinti, and then grimjack.


#25 of 28 by jp2 on Mon Jul 31 15:35:12 2000:

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#26 of 28 by jmsaul on Mon Jul 31 16:45:39 2000:

Yep.


#27 of 28 by slynne on Mon Jul 31 17:56:51 2000:

hahahaha. My friend Angela (who also dated Sean) told me about the 
article in Wired magazine. We laughed for a good long time about certain 
things in that article. 


#28 of 28 by jmsaul on Mon Jul 31 18:44:24 2000:

Which things, out of curiosity?

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