Ah it was a newer version of zterm set for system 7. I have the version now
for system 6 and it worked fine. I also got kermit which is much better
in my opinion for the mac neophyte ;-)
okay  hqx files what does one do to decode them...and sit files same
question :-)
I noticed that zmodem downloaded them as text....????
Anyways, I'm connected at 14.4 to my ISP and I'm a happy camper :-)
Oh yeah, zterm only would work at 9600 with the modem. Kermit works at
14.4 :-)
When is next meeting of mactechnics?  I'll turn on the pc later and
log into thier website...

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  Glad to see you're up and running, Mel. 

  There is a setting for 14.4 (what I use for M-nut) so you should be
able to set yours as well. 

  Unless you have 4 Megs available, don't use System 7. My system folder is
more than 2.5 Megs in size. But 7 is cool as well. ;)

(Should this item be linked to #164?)
.hqx are hex encoded binary files.  You need a copy of BinHex to convert
them back to a binary, compressed, file.  Once you've run your file
through BinHex, you will often wind up with a .sea file.  .sea files
are Self Extracting Applications and will decompress when you open them.
There are several compression applications used in the Mac environment,
including .zip!?  The tools to decompress them are available in the 
public domain.  .sea and .sit are the most common.

  There is also a free program called Stuffit Expander. It will decode the
binhex, and decompress the files all in one fell swoop. It does not like to
do .sit files all at once, so usually you have to quit the program and wash
it through once more. You really need this if you're going to be downloading
.hqx files.

Thanks..now all I have to do..is find stuffit expander in a self extracting
file right/ ;-

This is a related question that came up a few days ago while I was trying to
get something to a customer who uses a Mac.  Is there a Mac program that will
put disk images onto disks?

  Stuffit Esxpander is available in unstuffed forms on many archives. If you
can't find it, let me know and I'll upload a copy of mine for you.

Yes, Disk Copy 4.2 will create disk images and create disks from those images.
(I got it off a developers CD ROM someone gave me.  Not sure if it's in
the public domain.)

I'm getting frustrated :-p izzy.net has UnStuffIt but I can't get near it.

The U/M archive has it but when I used gopher to get it I got it 
on my machine in document form??? ZTerm setting is set for smart macbinary
but it still comes in as Text/ttxt   hrm??????

.hqx files are text. What does it say at the beginning of the file? 

  As long as it's text, you can dehex it. I'll upload the expander soon.

Must have been alot of bad self extracting ones out there. Finally got going.
Now all I have to do is weed out the system 7's from the stuff out there
so I can see the System 6's.
War of the Flowers the one thing I wanted..system 7 color..oh well.
I could have sworn I saw that on Brian Stretchs...way back...

Ok what is going on, I was loaned the original package of 7.1 and halfway
thru the install, it asked for the TIDBIT disk..now I have install, install2,
fonts, printers...wtf is TIDBITS? The folder had space for just those 4 disks
so where oh where is this so called TIDBITS disk?

  My version of 7.0.1 came on 10 disks. I don't think you have the complete
package.

7.0.1 is an 800K install package.  7.1 installs off of 1.44M floppies.
As I recall, my 7.1 package s 7 disks.  Your missing some.  Tidbits
is one of them.  Disk tools is another.

Sigh, figures...
Thanks guys

A little drift here.  Windows 95 comes on something like 30 1.4 mb floppies,
what does Windows 95 other than some nearly useless fax software and bloat
that sytem 7.1 doesn't have?  

Preemptive multitasking, and a choice between several much nicer interfaces.

Built in networking support.

Device drivers for a much wider range of hardware than 3.11 supported.

Since the question was about System 7.1, I suppose it's worth pointing out
that it supports a much wider range of hardware than MacOS supports, too. 
Since the hardware ranges of the two don't overlap at all, I suspect that
those who already own Macs wouldn't find that to be the advantage that it is
for everybody else.  MacOS System 7.1 had built in AppleTalk support, which
I suppose could be considered comperable to Windows95's built in NetBEUI
support.  System 7.5, I believe, added built in TCP/IP, which Windows95 has.
I don't know if MacOS supports the other networking protocols Windows95
supports (and I don't remember if Windows95 supports AppleTalk).

I think Win95 *might* support AppleTalk. I grep'ed my C: drive and came up
with two files with the string "appletalk" in them. One appears to be registry
entries for "Desktop Management" (something new to '95B & '98), the other is
a .dll that seems to have something to do with network detection. (i.e. "add
new hardware")

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